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  1. GOATtalks Purple Belt

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    There’s a myth created by Pride fans that fighters are in their prime in their 20’s and they like to back it up by the age of Olympic gold medalists. A lot of Olympic sports are mostly based on athleticism and less on skill and they are mostly amateur athletes.

    The closest major sports to MMA in terms of athletics and skill necessarily would be boxing, NFL, basketball, tennis and football.

    The best boxers:
    Fury 32
    Wilder 35
    AJ 31

    NFL:
    Tom Brady 43

    Basketball:
    LeBron James 36
    Durant 32

    Tennis:
    Novak 33
    Nadal 34
    Federer 39

    Football:
    Ronaldo 36
    Messi 33

    UFC champs right now:
    Stipe 38
    Jan 37
    Izzy 31
    Usman 33
    Khabib 32
    Volkanovski 32
    Yan 28
    Figgy 33

    Can this baseless shit argument die already?
     
  2. KillerIsBack V2 Red Belt

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    Every body is different, every sport is different.
    Betnard hipkins was world champion boxer at age 49, your argument is invalid.
     
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    I've never seen anyone say most of the things you claim above
     
  4. Daelh Orange Belt

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    There is a difference between having 30 mma fights and 100+ Sambo fights by the time you're 30 than starting your career in your 30s... obviously they would have different primes (DC, Fedor). Jon Jones is clearly going out of his prime based on his last 3 fights and he's like 32 but have fought since 20 years old.
     
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    The rise might be more political than actual..
     
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    Why is it invalid? My post clearly shows that early and mid 30’s are definitely still prime age for pro athletes
     
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  9. GOATtalks Purple Belt

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    Jon looked his best ever in his 2 prior to that ( DC 2, Gus 2). He easily outclassed Smith cruising at 30%, clearly beat Santos and only really struggled with Reyes. At that mostly could be because of Reyes size. Jon isn’t at his best fighting long fighters. Styles make fights
     
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    UFC is dying, bro
     
  11. GOATtalks Purple Belt

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    It’s almost like DC started to do sports in his 30’s and didn’t have and Olympic wrestling career, where he had to cut weight every time. Definitely the freshest fighter
     
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    Pretty sure we're going by mileages nowadays? Guys like Max probably will be out of his prime once he hits 32 even though biologically males hit their prime in late 20s to early 30s. Keep in mind we're talking about fighters here, they break their body day in, day out and have undergone many surgeries or suffered other health complications due to weight cutting.
     
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    People will say any old shit to defend their favourite fighters, I laugh most of it off tbh.
     
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    DC didnt wrestle and do MMA concurrently , as Fedor did with sambo and MMA .
     
  15. GOATtalks Purple Belt

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    Ahhh... yes that changes everything!
     
  16. Pillar of Society Orange Belt

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    Basketball tennis and football closest to MMA?! Are you out of your mind

    Wrestling, Judo Kickboxing are bazillion times closer to MMA than those you mentioned.

    Lets see the age of gold medalists in 2012 Olympics - Judo - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judo_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics

    Extra-lightweight winner - 23 yrs old
    Half lihhtweight - 20 yrs
    Lightweight - 26 yrs
    Half middleweight - 27yrs
    Middleweight - 33yrs
    Half heavyweight - 28 yrs
    Heavyweight - 23 yrs

    Edit - now lets see gold medalists in wrestling, same Olympic games - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics

    Freestyle:
    55kg champ - 25 yrs
    60kg champ - 20 yrs
    66 kg champ - 26 yrs
    74 kg champ - 24 yrs
    84kg champ - 24 yrs
    96kg champ - 26 yrs
    120kg champ - 24 yrs who shared the gold with another guy who was 25 yrs old


    You can end this pointless thread now.
     
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  17. Kumason MMA freak!

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    I always say fighting prime is often much different than physical prime. If they would likely beat the earlier version of themselves they aren't out of their fighting prime and this is often the case when...ya know, that type of mma fan brings up out of their prime. It is annoying when people bring up physical prime and typical ages of physical prime etc.

    "and they like to back it up by the age of Olympic gold medalists"

    I have been watching mma since Nov. 12, 1993, been on Sherdog since it started and never seen someone say this.

    "A lot of Olympic sports are mostly based on athleticism and less on skill and they are mostly amateur athletes."

    Some sports more than others but saying this as an overall truth is pretty stupid.

    Not a fan of your threads/posts in general, I think they are passed their prime.
     
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    Izzy has 100 kickboxing fights and 20 MMA fights, and he isn't slowing down like Fedor did.
     
  19. GOATtalks Purple Belt

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    Look one post above! Lol
     
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    I said major professional sports. Judo is an amateur sport no one cares about
     

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