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Wow, so much written and so little correct.
1. AI will not be what you think its going to be and none of what we are talking about has anything to do with the jobs that will disappear from AI since nothing being proposed by Yang would fix the problem.
2. I never said "buy" a ship. I said buy into one. The cost of a trading ship, supplies and crew for a voyage to trade and return was around $50,000 in the early 1500s, in modern days thats 5+ million and only the richest could afford that. For "people" to do it, it took many to invest and so they took to investors and the return on investment was massive.
You tossing in Africans and women was, lets be honest...a really stupid leftist horseshit move.
3. Who has all the land now? everyone. Do you have ANY fucking clue of history? Do you know what the title of Baron was? Land Baron...a LAND LORD. The actual original meaning of the modern term landlord.
Do people have lords over them today? No they dont. Do you believe that even 20% of people 300+ years ago "owned" homes? How about 10%? 5%? I still havent gone LOW ENOUGH...people didnt own shit back then and even Yang says that Capitalism increased the peoples wealth and living standards so just stop with the nonsense.
4. Who has "all the wealth". I know, let me guess...the jews right? Wasnt that the common racist stereotype in Europe for 100s of years? Yes. With many holding that belief today. Its always the group people want to demonize that has "all the" whatever.
Another socialist tactic.
Well, the rich people dont have all the money and if they did, you wouldnt be able to pay for the internet to make your posts...and yes, there was a time when you would LITERALLY HAVE NO MONEY because you would have been paid with food and room and board by the land owners and that was still the case for many coming to America in the 15, 16 and 1700s...and the Louisiana Purchase radically changed everything in America with even more radical change with the Homestead Act by Lincoln.
Bro, you are a black belt rolling with a blue belt here. I'm getting a kick out of your argument style.
1. Ubi is an idea that yang didn't make up. More than one economist has proposed a Ubi to offset tech replacing labor. See image below.
2. You are the one bringing up 16 the century economic ideas. Pointing out your "anyone" could "buy into" (you got me there) was fair game. Thanks for the knowledge on that one though. I appreciate the lesson.
3. Again, centuries old economic models have their flaws. Serfs and slaves were liberated by capitalism? I am not saying that's your argument. I think serfs and slaves were built in to the capital system. Now, labor fills that space. What happens when the need for labor is drastically reduced?
4. Jews? Really? I was thinking the 1-.1%. Are they all Jews? Bro, wtf? I'm balling here on my I phone. I am fan of capitalism. I think competition is important for us to get the best quality commodities. Adam Smith had some good ideas.
I checked out the bretton woods accords. Nixon put an end to that. No more gold for you! Thanks for that. Hayek vs Keynes debate is interesting. Supply side econmics...
You have a lot of passion in your argument and you've done your research. I still think we need to upgrade our economic system. Do you think our current model will be able to survive the next machine age?
I want my fighter friends to get a fair deal in the MMA capitalist market. I want my teammates like Leslie Smith, the Diaz brothers, and others you've never heard of have an opportunity to pursue their dreams with a little economic security.
Friedman's negative income tax isn't socialist is it? It helps people contribute to the economy. I think of Yang as someone who can make it happen.
Thanks for the lively discussion.
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