Elections Presidential candidate, Andrew Yang, puts Dana on blast. Goes on Joe Rogan Tuesday.

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  1. Cash Bill 52

    Cash Bill 52 Brown Belt

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    Bro, you are a black belt rolling with a blue belt here. I'm getting a kick out of your argument style.

    1. Ubi is an idea that yang didn't make up. More than one economist has proposed a Ubi to offset tech replacing labor. See image below.

    2. You are the one bringing up 16 the century economic ideas. Pointing out your "anyone" could "buy into" (you got me there) was fair game. Thanks for the knowledge on that one though. I appreciate the lesson.

    3. Again, centuries old economic models have their flaws. Serfs and slaves were liberated by capitalism? I am not saying that's your argument. I think serfs and slaves were built in to the capital system. Now, labor fills that space. What happens when the need for labor is drastically reduced?

    4. Jews? Really? I was thinking the 1-.1%. Are they all Jews? Bro, wtf? I'm balling here on my I phone. I am fan of capitalism. I think competition is important for us to get the best quality commodities. Adam Smith had some good ideas.

    I checked out the bretton woods accords. Nixon put an end to that. No more gold for you! Thanks for that. Hayek vs Keynes debate is interesting. Supply side econmics...

    You have a lot of passion in your argument and you've done your research. I still think we need to upgrade our economic system. Do you think our current model will be able to survive the next machine age?

    I want my fighter friends to get a fair deal in the MMA capitalist market. I want my teammates like Leslie Smith, the Diaz brothers, and others you've never heard of have an opportunity to pursue their dreams with a little economic security.

    Friedman's negative income tax isn't socialist is it? It helps people contribute to the economy. I think of Yang as someone who can make it happen.

    Thanks for the lively discussion.
     
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  2. Cash Bill 52

    Cash Bill 52 Brown Belt

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    He entered the race before anybody knew who she was.
     
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    1. Umm, yeah...this was touched on earlier...in our previous posts and now you are telling me, what I told you...I even provided you a video of Friedman.
    2. Again acting as if you dont know the reason why I mentioning something even though its been a part of our conversation...and one would think that saying "anyone could buy into" a thing, in 1500s Europe, would be clear that I mean people in Europe that had a little bit of money to do it and not some Chinese person living in the mountains in the middle of no where.
    3. Again, context is a thing and we are talking about Yang stating that our current system is new, and the cause of the average persons problems...and why are you now injecting slavery into this? How desperate are you to try to fluff up the piss poor argument and points being presented by your side? What is next, capitalism caused the patriarchy and enslavement of women?!? Slaves existed long before Capitalism and never before in history has the world been this close to having NO SLAVES so how about Capitalism destroys slavery hmm?
    4. Its called turning a stupid argument on itself by using its own tactics and YEAH man, there is a LONG HISTORY of people saying Jews have "all the money". Demonizing is the tactic of the weak mind...also, do you know WHY people on the left stopped saying "The 3%"? Why it became "the 1%" and you are using "the .1%"...the need to keep changing it when reality sinks in. Anyone making more than about $32,000 a year is in the top 3% in the WORLD...its now down to saying "the .1%" so its only the richest of the rich that are hated by idiot middle class people spewing moronic socialist nonsense.

    Hayek is just a start and by no means should be the last you should look up. Here, watch this real quick...its from 1977...look at the title...could be from yesterday.

     
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    VivaRevolution Whoopin' Belt

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    This is why people stopped apologizing for being socialists, because everything that isnt deregulation, is socialism in your book.

    If you want to use made up words, with made up definitions, then you damn right I'm a socialist.

    I'm not going to cower to your scary words.
     
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    Cash Bill 52 Brown Belt

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    I watched both of those videos. The first one was much funnier!

    1. I use that first video of Friedman you posted to show my libertarian friends the negative income tax and it’s similarities to ubi. I think we’re on the same page.
    2. Ok, fine. I was being a little snarky. Point conceded. I knew what you meant.
    3. Capitalism destroyed slavery... I think capitalism searches for efficiency. Slavery was no longer an efficient system. I think the current path of efficiency will have no need for labor either. I am against minimum wage. Why inflate a wage that will be replaced by automation? (Retail/fast food)
    4. I did notice a little gain in wages recently. However, the trend has been not much wage growth and large corporate profits and gdp. Dana White is making bank. Good for him. He took a risk and it payed off. Now can’t we get those slave and serf fighters some health care and a share of the profits. I don’t think watching robots fight will be very compelling. I’d like to see some of my fighter friends get to that top 3%. 32,000 a year might pay for some medical bills and a boxing coach.

    On that Hayek vid... social outcomes... we can’t guarantee economic (social) outcomes. I get that. That’s why I like the idea of a ubi. Put money into people’s pockets. Get rid of all the red tape and disincentive to work. Our country will increasingly be able to create wealth without labor. Put money into plebes pockets. See what outcomes emerge.

    I hope you watch Yang on Rogan’s Show Tuesday. At least get the highlights.

    I teach kindergarten during the day and wrestle people in pajamas at night. I want to help build a sustainable future for both of these communities.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/1r8YHdVoJwfJv0ptQp/html5
     
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    Asians will never be accepted. They are not really liked here in Orange County where there are so many. Whites still see them as totally different and barely integrated into American culture even though most are.
     
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    I’ve heard this argument. People said that about African Americans too. Once an Asian gets elected it’ll be no big deal. Yang is full American. He likes mma, basketball, and football. He talks like someone most white people would have known as a child.
     
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    Why does Yang receive no attention from the press?
     
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    But, I thought he threw his hat in the ring even before the general public knew who AOC is.

    According to Wikipedia, Yang filed back in November of 2017.

    Yet, we never hear about him.

    - Self made millionaire
    - Child of immigrants
    - New Yorker
    - Small part within the Obama White House

    Sounds like the bio that the Dems would be wanting to attach themselves to.
     
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    Good question... Our grass roots movement is picking up speed. If you want more info, feel free join my gang. You don't even have to kill anybody!
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1927251157343634/?ref=share
    Here's a graphic that shows the disparity in press coverage.
     
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  15. EradiatedHaggis

    EradiatedHaggis Brown Belt

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    Point out anywhere in my post history where I say everything must be deregulated.

    Anyway, thanks for the typical socialist post of making shit and attack the person up so you dont actually ever have to argue points...notice how YOU only did this while Cash and I actually argued point to point.

    Typical, useless socialist.
     
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    Whats his stance on guns?
     
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    The fucking post I quoted, deregulation was your solution to HC.

    You fucking NPC.
     
  18. EradiatedHaggis

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    Oh look, dumbass socialist injects things not there to try to sound correct.

    A health care company being blocked from doing business in an area is NOT FROM REGULATION you dumb cunt...so no, I did not say anything about de-regulation AND ON TOP OF IT you stated that all I say anything that is NOT deregulation = socialism.

    You are a typical socialist, stupid and a liar...you cant help but be it. You need to lie to prop up your beliefs.
     
  19. VivaRevolution

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    Naw man. Retards don't understand that for 30 years in this country everyone was a economic progressive. You have no response to this.

    Absolutely none. Eisenhower was a Republican, and was a socialist by your retard use of the word. Nixon created the fucking EPA. You are an NPC talking point sheep. You gobbled Cheney and Bush's nuts because you are a dumb bitch follower.

    You are too dumb to understand what socialism is, so I'm done trying.

    (This is fun, bring back flaming)
     
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    You keep using words like "everyone" while dismissing "everyone" that isnt in your fake reality...kind of like that link on the first page to a video of Milton Friedman, who isnt a socialist, did not push socialism and sure as fuck was not a progressive.

    There isnt a SINGLE student of Hayek, one of the greatest economists of all time, that became a progressive, or pushed Socialism and the same can be said of one his students, students...Milton Friedman also taught 1000s and even created a NEW SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS. The Chicago system. And NONE of them are progressives, or socialists.

    Socialists. You dont live in reality. You reject it so your shit makes sense.

    Post more, I enjoy slapping you down. Hell, I actually dont even need to do it, anyone reading your idiocy that also looked at this thread will see it themselves...but what fun is there in that? You came in here ranting after almost a full page discussion between me and the OP raising the bar but you are too much of a low-brow monkey to even attempt to do the same...and using an argument already discussed and proven wrong.

    You cant help that though, you only have a few points and cant think up new ones no matter how many times they dont stand up to scrutiny. Even more proof socialists are dumb as rocks.
     

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