I actually dig em! I've been using them exclusively in my sparring lately. I know there's been issues of inconsistency with some of the other guys who bought them as well. My wrist strap wasn't over-long. I've had some threading in the centre palm side of one of the gloves come out but nothing too drastic, truthfully it got loose rather early on in my getting and using them. The rest of the glove and remaining stitching has been fine. I do wish they felt a bit heftier if that makes any sense.. I don't know if you recall they were meant to be winning clones, while I really dig the sleek and snug fit and profile at times I've wondered if less foam was used? So I mean I can't rightfully say they're the perfect glove but subjectively I've loved them in sparring so far. There's def a foam difference between the rest of my pairs and again I love the sleek and slim profile of them.