Political Betting Thread

[waiguoren]

Maybe she can get back on her knees and suck her way into a vp spot

Hm.

I don't think Sanders would choose her as VP. Too many ideological differences, for one thing.

I don't think Biden would choose her as VP since she blind-sided him with a disingenuous attack on the debate stage.

Elizabeth Warren is a calculator. Two females on the ticket she will not go for.

Buttigieg....maybe....

 

[Dr. Now]

Hm.

I don't think Sanders would choose her as VP. Too many ideological differences, for one thing.

I don't think Biden would choose her as VP since she blind-sided him with a disingenuous attack on the debate stage.

Elizabeth Warren is a calculator. Two females on the ticket she will not go for.

Buttigieg....maybe....

I actually told family and friends she will probably be the nominee that was before i realized how retarded she is but don't put it past the leftists to choose a black women. The PC party cares more about gender and color than actual quality it would not surprise me at all if someone chose her.

 

[waiguoren]

I actually told family and friends she will probably be the nominee that was before i realized how retarded she is but don't put it past the leftists to choose a black women. The PC party cares more about gender and color than actual quality it would not surprise me at all if someone chose her.

We had this debate ITT about six months ago. I took the position that Democratic voters care far less about race than Republican voters think they do. I think the results of the primary so far bear this out. All four top candidates are white. The new star (Buttigieg) is white as snow.

Booker's actually had multiple solid debate performances but he's going no where. Castro is done. Harris is done (sooner or later). Other than Gabbard, who is unelectable, everyone else is white.

 

[Dr. Now]

We had this debate ITT about six months ago. I took the position that Democratic voters care far less about race than Republican voters think they do. I think the results of the primary so far bear this out. All four top candidates are white. The new star (Buttigieg) is white as snow.

Booker's actually had multiple solid debate performances but he's going no where. Castro is done. Harris is done (sooner or later). Other than Gabbard, who is unelectable, everyone else is white.

I can't watch the debates to listen to what they have to say because the groveling/pandering to minorities is out of control. "look at me i speak spanish look what i can do for you guys...."

You are correct the top candidates are jews and whites but when you listen to everyone talk it seems more like they want to grovel before the feets of brown and blacks then say something that really resonates.

Also if you look at someone like buttigieg why does he not do well with blacks? he grovels/panders quite a bit.....maybe blacks are insensitive to gays? i dnno

 

[waiguoren]

I can't watch the debates to listen to what they have to say because the groveling/pandering to minorities is out of control. "look at me i speak spanish look what i can do for you guys...."

You are correct the top candidates are jews and whites but when you listen to everyone talk it seems more like they want to grovel before the feets of brown and blacks then say something that really resonates.

Also if you look at someone like buttigieg why does he not do well with blacks? he grovels/panders quite a bit.....maybe blacks are insensitive to gays? i dnno

I agree re: groveling, but many disagree.

I think Buttigieg isn't doing well with blacks yet because they mostly have no idea who he is. People dramatically underestimate the importance of name recognition in these contests. As I pointed out to someone else the other day: two months after O'Rourke announced his candidacy and got a huge media push nearly 50% of likely Democratic voters didn't know who he was or has no opinion of him.

 

[Dr. Now]

I agree re: groveling, but many disagree.

I think Buttigieg isn't doing well with blacks yet because they mostly have no idea who he is. People dramatically underestimate the importance of name recognition in these contests. As I pointed out to someone else the other day: two months after O'Rourke announced his candidacy and got a huge media push nearly 50% of likely Democratic voters didn't know who he was or has no opinion of him.

I actually am for many "leftist" things like Free healthcare, UBI taxing the rich more and things like that however I'm also for tight immigration so for me the left is a turnoff completely. I have been following automation for 20 years and I actually think the first candidate to say anything revolutionary is Andrew Yang so i can respect him a bit but it's sad the American public is slow to catch on to concepts like automation. I was reading about automating farms when I was in 3rd grade in the 90s it freaks me out how society isn't taking this seriously.

 

[waiguoren]

Andrew Yang raises $750,000 in 24 hours

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/01/andrew-yang-fundraising-campaign-074654

Some interesting info in here. Looks like Yang will be sticking around quite a bit longer even if he can't make the debates. I guess he will outlast Harris. Also interesting that Steyer's people are confident he will make the donor threshold for the December debate.

 

[waiguoren]

Joe Sestak ends 2020 presidential bid
Sestak struggled to gain name recognition, was left with zero percent support in most polls and had not qualified for any Democratic debates.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/01/joe-sestak-ends-2020-presidential-bid-074722


Shocking....say it ain't so....

Only 17 major candidates remaining....

Marianne Williamson
Joseph Biden, Jr.
Peter Buttigieg
Bernard Sanders
Amy Klobuchar
Julian Castro
Cory Booker
Kamala Harris
John Delaney
Michael Bennet
Steve Bullock
Tulsi Gabbard
Elizabeth Warren
Andrew Yang
Michael Bloomberg
Deval Patrick
Thomas Steyer

 

[longway]

I took the position that Democratic voters care far less about race than Republican voters think they do.

Voters sure, (and similarly gop voters are not that concerned about race either imo) except for the vocal and, more scarily, highly influential identitarian progressive wing. These loons form the intellectual base of the dnc. Seriously, i find it kind of terrifying.

Take Buttigieg... please anyone?

Anyway, he was called a lying mf by some race baiting grifter, and buttigieg grovelled to him. This concerns me, especially as i stand to make the biggest profit if buttigieg gets nominated, as successful presidential candidates dont grovel to people like him. Now buttigieg wanders talking about white people should be concerned about whiteness or some crap.

If he carries on like this i lose confidence in him as a pick, and no malarkey, whatever else you say about biden, he hsdnt grovelled to these crazies yet.

 

[waiguoren]

Voters sure, except for the vocal and, more scarily, highly influential identitarian progressive wing. These loons form the intellectual base of the dnc. Seriously, i find it kind of terrifying.

Yeah I'm saying that wing is a very small percentage of the Democratic electorate. Kind of like white nationalist Trump supporters. Vocal/loud but few in number. I don't see them as the intellectual base of the DNC. Actually, I think there is no intellectual base at this point. That's why the primary is wide open.

Anyway, he was called a lying mf by some race baiting grifter, and buttigieg grovelled to him. This concerns me, especially as i stand to make the biggest profit if buttigieg gets nominated, as successful presidential candidates dont grovel to people like him. Now buttigieg wanders talking about white people should be concerned about whiteness or some crap.

I agree with your characterization of the writer from The Root. I think calling him on the phone, as Buttigieg did, was the right move. He has to walk a tightrope here to not appear insensitive on race while also not becoming a doormat. I've been watching him closely and I think he's making the right moves.

Now buttigieg wanders talking about white people should be concerned about whiteness or some crap.

He's been talking about "advantages of whiteness" and such since the start of his campaign. Nothing new, just getting more attention now.

whatever else you say about biden, he hsdnt grovelled to these crazies yet.

I think that's only because he hasn't needed to. On the Hyde Amendment, he flip flopped with amazing speed despite holding his original position for decades. True he snapped at an immigration activist the other day, but it seemed like less of a principled stance than a "I'm old and I don't like you kids on my lawn" situation.

 

[longway]

I don't see them as the intellectual base of the DNC.

Im surprised.

I think he's making the right moves.

I hope so. Imo this kind of stuff can make or break his campsign.

"advantages of whiteness"

See comment on intellectual base.

True he snapped at an immigration activist the other day, but it seemed like less of a principled stance than a "I'm old and I don't like you kids on my lawn" situation.

<45>the only scenarios where i lose money and dont make s profit is if biden or warren get nominated. The sooner they startyhe hatchet job on biden the happier i will be.

 

[waiguoren]

Montana Gov. Steve Bullock suspends presidential campaign

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/02/steve-bullock-suspends-presidential-campaign-074729


Down to 16 major candidates. Bullock says he will not run for Senate.


Marianne Williamson
Joseph Biden, Jr.
Peter Buttigieg
Bernard Sanders
Amy Klobuchar
Julian Castro
Cory Booker
Kamala Harris
John Delaney
Michael Bennet
Tulsi Gabbard
Elizabeth Warren
Andrew Yang
Michael Bloomberg
Deval Patrick
Thomas Steyer

 

[longway]

I think Buttigieg isn't doing well with blacks yet because they mostly have no idea who he is.

What about when they find out he is gay?

 

[waiguoren]

What about when they find out he is gay?

We'll see. I think it's a concern among that population but not enough to stop him.

 

[longway]

Fake and more and more desperate presidential candidate warren beclowns herself yet again.



Tbh i am not sure how this plays with primary voters, but its a death knell for any chance of winning the ge.

 

[waiguoren]

Fake and more and more desperate presidential candidate warren beclowns herself yet again.



Tbh i am not sure how this plays with primary voters, but its a death knell for any chance of winning the ge.

Really? Your idea is that swing state voters will vote to preserve the EC? Interesting idea. I'm not sure I agree. Seems like most voters (even in swing states) don't care about this. Many of them probably don't even know what the EC is.

 

[longway]

^ well, i dont have any data for it, but i think voters are well aware of the electoral college, and if they are not, it will be virgin and fertile ground that trump can use to his advantage by informing them of the consequences of abolishing the ec.

Dont care? The whole point of pandering for this significant change is that democrats do, or started the day after a certain orange man won the 2016 election. If they dont care either then warren is a bigger idiot than i thought, and i think she is a big idiot. <45>

As a side note no-one won the popular vote in 2016, its not the winning metric. If it was then the voting patterns, and tactics and strategies used get or suppress them would have be entirely different. As an analogy, no american football team can claim to win the most yards rushed in a game. TDs are the winning metric. If yards rushed determined the winner, the game would be played entirely differently.

 

[LiquidityTrap]

I think most people who think Bloomberg can't make an impact are not understanding the scale of the operation Bloomberg intends to run.

Based on today's Politico poll, it seems like you were right...

 

[Sketch]

Based on today's Politico poll, it seems like you were right...

 

[TrueAscension]

Gonna lol when you all lose your money after months of being complete dickheads to Democrats for no particular reason.

Kamala needs to get down on her knees? What is wrong with you fucking neanderthals