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Political Betting Thread

Scy
Yeah, ok, Mr. Objectivity. The majority of people are mimicking what their news sources tell them, which is fair to use as a gauge to judge betting this election but acting like you're not biased here is kind of funny.
Scythe. Do u not think we are in a bubble economy. Honest answer

How is what I said showing bias. What he acknowledged was A FACT! What is your point.

But hey. I do love that Trump has basically destroyed the Republican Party. It needed to be destroyed. Maybe less foreign wars. But sadly, the Dems seem to be grabbing the Neocon title and running with it.
 
What does that have to do with winning this election? 95% of voters wouldn't be able to answer what a bubble economy is.

Why don't you show a way of Trump getting to 270 electorate votes because that is getting increasingly hard to do? He has pushed away Latinos, Blacks, Women, Muslims and slowly but surely moderate Republicans. The white male vote can only get you so far.
 
Scy

Scythe. Do u not think we are in a bubble economy. Honest answer

How is what I said showing bias. What he acknowledged was A FACT! What is your point.

But hey. I do love that Trump has basically destroyed the Republican Party. It needed to be destroyed. Maybe less foreign wars. But sadly, the Dems seem to be grabbing the Neocon title and running with it.

The stock market is inflated, and interest rates will rise soon; I don't believe we're on the verge of economic collapse. I don't think another 2007, or worse as Trump appears to suggest, is imminent. I also think Trump's economic policies would be the worst way to address a bubble, since we're giving personal opinions. I don't believe him mentioning it (to attack Obama) was really anything groundbreaking or revolutionary as your post appeared to suggest. Actually offering a solution might've been impressive (even if it's one I don't agree with).

My point was, as the poster above suggested, that what you posted had absolutely nothing to do with betting assessment. The same thing you just derided other posters for.
 
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I'm a registered Libertarian and voting for Johnson. I can't stand either major political party. I'm tired of the wars and the bubbles.

Sorry man. But him pointing out we are in a bubble cycle is true. One of the few really true things either has said.

I remember the day Lehman Bros. went to zero. I was actually sitting in a poker room watching and we literally all sat there in disbelief. I'm a little bit more into that stuff than most (I watch CNBC, read finanacial journals sometimes, etc.) but even the guys at the table who weren't really in tune understood how big a deal it was.

So here we are 8 years later and look at the wonderful student debt bubble we have. The barrista making my coffee every morning getting paid $10.50/hour has six figures in student load debt with a degree in underwater basket weaving. We have the EXACT same things happening with student loans that we did with housing. Just like when a house was "always a good investment" so is a college degree. Regardless of cost. Politicians (and it's not party specific by ANY means) support the bubble with cheap money (or appoint fed chairs etc. that do it). This bubble hasn't burst and unlike housing people have been calling it for years! But what's the alternative? We'd have most likely had a depression worse than the Great Depression had we not poured the cheap $ in and added the liquidity.

The thing is, we're in too deep. You can't unring this bell. Think about it: 8 years is the blink of an eye really in terms of historical housing data. Only 8 years ago it was the apocalypse with housing (sure it was regional to a degree but it affected the entire economy and no markets were "good" with housing, just "less awful" than others). Where I live now (the county I live in) there's FORTY buyers looking for every ONE seller. I bought my house last August. I could literally sell it for 15-20% more than I bought it for and it's only been mine for 14 months. It would be considered "high end" I guess. 3500 square feet, 6 years old, nice finishes and all that stuff. And while lending practices are at least more reasonable now, people still wouldn't hesitate to spend a ton of $ on my house or a zillion others like it. Or borrow $100k for college to get a degree that can't even get them a decent paying job in the area they graduated in. Sure, it's actually talked about now as an issue so we won't get another movie with Christian Bale to help the general public understand credit default swaps but the trillion dollar+ debt is there and it's not going anywhere when the default rates keep climbing on student loans. It's not just us either. Look at Europe. Not necessarily student loan debt there but the entitlement society gives them all sorts of their own fun problems.

So that was a long rant about bubbles but the reality is neither Gary Johnson nor any other politician can pull us out of the bubble cycle. Trump pointing it out means nothing. He can't really do anything about it either (and he may not even want to even if he could). Hillary either. I'm not voting for either of them or Johnson, but that's just me and has nothing to do with economic bubbles. I'll write in someone I think would make a better prez and waste my vote. At least I'll be able to sleep at night.

*I did make a small bet on not Hillary at +200. I'm going to lose that bet. I don't really give a F. America is losing this November regardless of who wins. I just want to point out that I did in fact place a wager on this election, thus earning my right to post this long winded crap above LOL.
 
I remember the day Lehman Bros. went to zero. I was actually sitting in a poker room watching and we literally all sat there in disbelief. I'm a little bit more into that stuff than most (I watch CNBC, read finanacial journals sometimes, etc.) but even the guys at the table who weren't really in tune understood how big a deal it was.

So here we are 8 years later and look at the wonderful student debt bubble we have. The barrista making my coffee every morning getting paid $10.50/hour has six figures in student load debt with a degree in underwater basket weaving. We have the EXACT same things happening with student loans that we did with housing. Just like when a house was "always a good investment" so is a college degree. Regardless of cost. Politicians (and it's not party specific by ANY means) support the bubble with cheap money (or appoint fed chairs etc. that do it). This bubble hasn't burst and unlike housing people have been calling it for years! But what's the alternative? We'd have most likely had a depression worse than the Great Depression had we not poured the cheap $ in and added the liquidity.

The thing is, we're in too deep. You can't unring this bell. Think about it: 8 years is the blink of an eye really in terms of historical housing data. Only 8 years ago it was the apocalypse with housing (sure it was regional to a degree but it affected the entire economy and no markets were "good" with housing, just "less awful" than others). Where I live now (the county I live in) there's FORTY buyers looking for every ONE seller. I bought my house last August. I could literally sell it for 15-20% more than I bought it for and it's only been mine for 14 months. It would be considered "high end" I guess. 3500 square feet, 6 years old, nice finishes and all that stuff. And while lending practices are at least more reasonable now, people still wouldn't hesitate to spend a ton of $ on my house or a zillion others like it. Or borrow $100k for college to get a degree that can't even get them a decent paying job in the area they graduated in. Sure, it's actually talked about now as an issue so we won't get another movie with Christian Bale to help the general public understand credit default swaps but the trillion dollar+ debt is there and it's not going anywhere when the default rates keep climbing on student loans. It's not just us either. Look at Europe. Not necessarily student loan debt there but the entitlement society gives them all sorts of their own fun problems.

So that was a long rant about bubbles but the reality is neither Gary Johnson nor any other politician can pull us out of the bubble cycle. Trump pointing it out means nothing. He can't really do anything about it either (and he may not even want to even if he could). Hillary either. I'm not voting for either of them or Johnson, but that's just me and has nothing to do with economic bubbles. I'll write in someone I think would make a better prez and waste my vote. At least I'll be able to sleep at night.

*I did make a small bet on not Hillary at +200. I'm going to lose that bet. I don't really give a F. America is losing this November regardless of who wins. I just want to point out that I did in fact place a wager on this election, thus earning my right to post this long winded crap above LOL.
Which state are you registered in? It's possible, even likely that your vote for a write-in candidate will not count.
 
Which state are you registered in? It's possible, even likely that your vote for a write-in candidate will not count.

I will give you a hint: Many people think the person that I will write in should have run, and will likely run in the future. He is from my state.
 
I will give you a hint: Many people think the person that I will write in should have run, and will likely run in the future. He is from my state.
If it is NY, your write-in vote for Bloomberg wouldn't count. It would be filed under a general category called "other".
 
The stock market is inflated, and interest rates will rise soon; I don't believe we're on the verge of economic collapse. I don't think another 2007, or worse as Trump appears to suggest, is imminent. I also think Trump's economic policies would be the worst way to address a bubble, since we're giving personal opinions. I don't believe him mentioning it (to attack Obama) was really anything groundbreaking or revolutionary as your post appeared to suggest. Actually offering a solution might've been impressive (even if it's one I don't agree with).

My point was, as the poster above suggested, that what you posted had absolutely nothing to do with betting assessment. The same thing you just derided other posters for.

What are u talking about? Go actually read the discussion. I said stop insulting people because of who they are betting.

Honestly, did u even read this discussion. Or are u just getting all hot because of a post or 2 later on.

I'm serious man. Go actually read the discussion.

And all I did was give him props for saying something no other politician has. Jesus man
 
You should probably take your own advice, re-read the discussion and consider how what you said would be interpreted.

If it doesn't change your mind, lets just move on in disagreement.
 
NBC/WSJ just released a post debate poll and it has Trump down 9.
 
You should probably take your own advice, re-read the discussion and consider how what you said would be interpreted.

If it doesn't change your mind, lets just move on in disagreement.
I didn't comment on anything u said. Didn't even know u were here until u started quoting bits of conversation.

I commented on someone insulting others. If people have to do that then they will end up banned. Sorry that worked u all up
 
You should probably take your own advice, re-read the discussion and consider how what you said would be interpreted.

If it doesn't change your mind, lets just move on in disagreement.

Look u obviously hate 1 side here. Cool, but not everyone does. I will give props to either side. If Clinton had said what Trump said. I would have said the same exact thing

But they're both liars anyway. I bet trump and then hedged with Clinton. Also have a few state bets.
 
If it is NY, your write-in vote for Bloomberg wouldn't count. It would be filed under a general category called "other".

Not NY. Midwest. Guy already in DC though...

He also just said he's done defending Trump. Which makes me happy. I'm trying to teach my daughter that words matter and here we have Hillary Clinton who probably can't even tell when she's telling the truth anymore and Donald Trump who has shown he is a complete chauvinist that absolutely seems to care about nobody but himself and has gone out of his way to insult damn near everyone. I'm no women's rights activist but FFS, there's lines not to cross. I can't believe this is where we are as a country. It is what it is, the world will keep spinning, but damn.

Whatever you want to say about the guy who I'm writing in (Mr. Speaker) he at the least has some integrity. Nobody is perfect, him included, but even those who disagree with him politically know he's not the slimeball that we're gonna end up with one way or another this November.

Oh well...maybe 2020 or 2024 I guess...
 
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I didn't comment on anything u said. Didn't even know u were here until u started quoting bits of conversation.

I commented on someone insulting others. If people have to do that then they will end up banned. Sorry that worked u all up

Can't go back a page, see that you quoted me and Puertorican, and then said the thread was being filled with die-hard politicos who shouldn't post?

It appears that by "a bunch of diehard politicos", you're saying that you were just referring to Jack Scrapper? Or not? It's funny because I also got into an argument with him months ago (that extended to private messages to my dismay).

Anyway, let's move on.
 
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Can't go back a page, see that you quoted me and Puertorican, and then said the thread was being filled with die-hard politicos who shouldn't post?

It appears that by "a bunch of diehard politicos", you're saying that you were just referring to Jack Scrapper? Or not? It's funny because I also got into an argument with him months ago (that extended to private messages to my dismay).

Anyway, let's move on.

Once again. I NEVER said anything to u in here. I started getting questioned by u after I called out Scrapper. I'm actually just gonna leave this entire thread. I'm not gonna catch shit from a few in here because I called out a guy who was being an ass. Have a ball
 
Can't go back a page, see that you quoted me and Puertorican, and then said the thread was being filled with die-hard politicos who shouldn't post?

It appears that by "a bunch of diehard politicos", you're saying that you were just referring to Jack Scrapper? Or not? It's funny because I also got into an argument with him months ago (that extended to private messages to my dismay).

Anyway, let's move on.
we all gotten those private messages from the Scrapper, the guy is nuts
 
Not NY. Midwest. Guy already in DC though...

He also just said he's done defending Trump. Which makes me happy. I'm trying to teach my daughter that words matter and here we have Hillary Clinton who probably can't even tell when she's telling the truth anymore and Donald Trump who has shown he is a complete chauvinist that absolutely seems to care about nobody but himself and has gone out of his way to insult damn near everyone. I'm no women's rights activist but FFS, there's lines not to cross. I can't believe this is where we are as a country. It is what it is, the world will keep spinning, but damn.

Whatever you want to say about the guy who I'm writing in (Mr. Speaker) he at the least has some integrity. Nobody is perfect, him included, but even those who disagree with him politically know he's not the slimeball that we're gonna end up with one way or another this November.

Oh well...maybe 2020 or 2024 I guess...
WI is north-central I think, not midwest.

Be careful man. Your vote for Ryan will not be counted. Scott Walker signed a law a couple of years ago to change the vote counting rules so write-in votes only count in WI if you vote for a registered write-in candidate. They did it under the guise of saving man hours that would be used counting votes for "Mickey Mouse", "Daffy Duck" etc.
 
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WI is north-central I think, not midwest.

Be careful man. Your vote for Ryan will not be counted. Scott Walker signed a law a couple of years ago to change the vote counting rules so your vote only write-in vote counts in WI if you vote for a registered write-in candidate. They did it under the guise of saving man hours used counting votes for "Mickey Mouse", "Daffy Duck" etc.

We absolutely consider ourselves Midwest, but I'm good with north central LOL. Is Chicago midwest? My wife grew up in WI about 40 miles north of Chicago. Either way, all good.

Yeah I realize my write in won't count. It's just symbolic anyway. Obviously the odds of either Trump or Clinton winning are 99% right now or more and the only way it's someone else is if there's a big health issue (possible with Clinton I know, and Trump is in his 70's I guess...) but either way a vote for Ryan is wasted. I know that full well going in, and before this election I'd never have dreamed of doing it. "The lesser of 2 evils" so to speak was always a palatable thing for me. Not this time. That said, I'm still voting for someone I believe is actually qualified to be prez even if my vote won't count. In my own mind, I can live with myself in doing it. Very sadly, that's the place this election has taken me.

Don't get me wrong, my life will go on just fine. I won't lose sleep about it, it most likely will affect me personally very little having Clinton as prez. Probably even if Trump was prez to be honest. But it's a sad state of affairs that this is what we're looking at imo.
 
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