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Poatan is THE best UFC striker ever.

I got 20 years in this bs and I have to say you can match any mma fighter ever against Ngannou and I would not bet against big Frank.

Yes, he did have some problems but I cant even remember when he was in real danger. And when he did good his opponents fell in first minute.
 
I got 20 years in this bs and I have to say you can match any mma fighter ever against Ngannou and I would not bet against big Frank.

Yes, he did have some problems but I cant even remember when he was in real danger. And when he did good his opponents fell in first minute.

(I'm the OP).

That's... yes, correct, sure. Or could be. Or most likely.

Big Frank would beat (literally) Poatan, but that doesn't make him a better striker.
Alex is a LHW, emphasis on "light".
Verhoeven would make easy work of Francis standing up.

Take any MMA striker, from any era, at his peak.
Put him @ GLORY if he's 170 or heavier, K-1/ONE/RISE if 155 or below.

Could he become champ? And double champ?
Because that's Pereira, and only Pereira.*

*Poatan is the only double champ ever in GLORY.
Yes, there are/were many (but not so many, like 20 or so ATG) better KBs than him.
And one of the very best (Schilt) even competed @ the UFC, but he was... testimonial in MMA.
 
Offensivley he's amazing.

But there's def holes defensivley.
 
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Strait out of a fuckin movie, how quickly they forget....

Even after fighting over a decade past his prime, statistically in the UFC Anderson is on par and even superior in some respects to Alex Pereria right now. If you look at the data from Silva's prime years, his striking defense and accuracy were out of this world. We have not see anything like that before.



If you take the first 17 fights of Andersons UFC career, before he broke his leg:

Anderson Silva - 17 fights
  • Overall Total Strike Accuracy: 69.2%
  • Overall Significant Strike Accuracy: 67.0%
  • Overall Striking Defense: 76.4%
  • Strikes Landed per minute 4.25


Alex Pereira - 10 fights
  • Overall Total Strike Accuracy: 61.4%
  • Overall Significant Strike Accuracy: 60.1%
  • Overall Striking Defense: 59.1%
  • Strikes Landed per minute 5.45


These percentages are averaged across individual fights, meaning each fight contributes equally to the final percentage. This reflects true performance across different opponents and fight scenarios.


Alex Pereira is an offensive juggernaut, but Silva is the most efficient, accurate, and defensively sound striker the sport has ever seen. His precision allowed him to dismantle legends with minimal effort, his defense made strikers look amateur, and his ability to read, react, and finish fights remains unmatched.

The gap is bigger than many would have you believe. Imagine someone who is better than Alex at striking, yet also better than Alex in almost every other possible aspect of MMA as well. This made Anderson so much more dangerous, his GnP alone is legendary.

It doesn't surprise me his more accurate and has better defense considering he threw less. What surprises me his volume really isn't that much less. Considering he had some fights were it felt like he danced around doing very little just to end it with a clean strike i expected his volume to be way lower. Guess it shows how time can twist your memory of how things happened.
 
(I'm the OP).

That's... yes, correct, sure. Or could be. Or most likely.

Big Frank would beat (literally) Poatan, but that doesn't make him a better striker.
Alex is a LHW, emphasis on "light".
Verhoeven would make easy work of Francis standing up.

Take any MMA striker, from any era, at his peak.
Put him @ GLORY if he's 170 or heavier, K-1/ONE/RISE if 155 or below.

Could he become champ? And double champ?
Because that's Pereira, and only Pereira.*

*Poatan is the only double champ ever in GLORY.
Yes, there are/were many (but not so many, like 20 or so ATG) better KBs than him.
And one of the very best (Schilt) even competed @ the UFC, but he was... testimonial in MMA.
Yeah, there are MMA fighters that could be kickboxing champions - of course.

Though I am not sure why that would be relevant. I dont know why people keep bringing up kickboxing when talking about best strikers in MMA. Doesn't make any sense.
 
Yes he is without a doubt. Israel comes second. Those two are the best strikers in MMA right now by far.
 
The equation to use is: how many strikes thrown X how many knock outs in his UFC career.
 
Yeah, there are MMA fighters that could be kickboxing champions - of course.

Though I am not sure why that would be relevant. I dont know why people keep bringing up kickboxing when talking about best strikers in MMA. Doesn't make any sense.
Because MMA stand up is "GLORY with elbows" (knees are allowed), and Poatan has integrated them pretty damn good.
He is no Jones, Ferguson... but his elbows are amongst nastiest out there.

I'm not so sure any MMA fighter ever -not being a former KBer- could become champion of the biggest KB promotion for his weight class* (being GLORY, ONE...) Not even make it to a title fight, actually. But that's my opinion that could be very wrong.

I'm pretty sure, though, that no MMA fighter** besides Poatan could defend his GLORY/ONE/K-1 belt 5 times and become double champ (the only one in Glory so far).

*Sure, this is a weak KB era relative to the golden K-1 days of Hoost, Aerts, Schilt, Hari... but still, Alex is considered between top 15 - 25 ever. Personally, I believe he is top 20ish.

**As Schilt has competed in the UFC and he's at least a top 5 ATG, most likely a top 3 and for some the best ever... I've should said "the best striker with a significant UFC/MMA run".
 
Yes, I like Alex, but keeping those hands so low is frustrating to watch.

He is not a defensive wizard, I'm not arguing here.

But, besides a punch after the bell from Izzy (unintentional, most likely) after RD 1 of their 1st and, you know, the KO in their 2nd (a tailored trap for Alex)...

Tell me one single instance when he has been hurt in his other 9 UFC fights.

Mostly glazing shots as he's retreating, are partially blocked or he perfectly rolls with them. Even the Rountree high kick: he saw it coming and reacted with head movement before it hit.
 
Why do people still post that Khalil punch acting as if it wasn't a slip lol?

It's like when people try to say Reyes dropped Jones with a body shot

Do people just count obvious slips as knockdowns nowadays?
 
Poatan would get wrecked by any old school kickboxer from like 1997.
 
I'll just leave this here:
 

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Love Alex, but...

I'm going with Anderson or Aldo.
 
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