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  1. MaureenCretis Black Belt

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    Pop music superstar, or champion of all that's wrong with music?
     
  2. faustian I AM NOT A MONSTER Platinum Member

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    I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.
     
  3. thebluerider caelgender ftw

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    i'm thinkin somewhere in the middle of that
     
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    I don't get how the two choices are mutually exclusive



    He sounds like a shrieking gnome having a mental breakdown on top of over-manufactured sentimentality
     
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    In before American Psycho quote. Nope, never mind.
     
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    Excellent songwriter, subpar vocalist, great drummer, hot daughter.
     
  9. MaureenCretis Black Belt

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    I've always been of the impression that the vast majority of people who sneer at his music are doing so in an attempt to underscore how cool they are. Or, more accurately, how cool they think they are.

    Noel Gallagher, of Oasis, for example - always quick to make a snide comment about Collins, for being too pop, and too overblown. Which is rather ironic, given how overblown and pop Oasis were.

    I think history will rate his body of work favorably, even if the critics and the self-styled musical elite won't.
     
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    The king of dentist office waiting room music, no doubting that
     
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    Tune.

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    Peanut butter and jammm!

    Philadelphia Collins rocks
     
  13. Jack Reacheround Never Go Black

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    This is the only acceptable response.
     
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    Whenever I'm driving and tune into one of his songs on the radio, I keep listening.
    Been thinking about getting some kind of Genesis compilation, any recommendations?
     
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    As a matter of fact, yes. I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.
     
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    I'd forgotten about the American Psycho bit (not the Huey Lewis bit, though).
     
  18. Opfer *******

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    I was gonna mention how lame this is until I remembered I've posted it on Sherdog myself.
     
  19. ripskater Guest

    Tarzan was a great movie because of Phil Collins. I believe a soundtrack can make a movie. And Phil Collins did that.


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