Crime Perjuring the Swamp (New report: Trump instructed Cohen to lie to Congress) +WOW+ (SCO Thread v. 27)

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Now at least you are admitting the leak. Thank you.
I don't have to admit something I never denied. and I am certainly not shocked CNN will not want to point to any leak, just as I am betting Buzzfeed leak was NEVER the FBI and was in fact either Cohen or his lawyer.

And in each case the news org, trying to protect their leak will use misdirection and point elsewhere. that is what they do.
That leak... IS ILLEGAL.
Cite please?
 
Strange thing to complain about. It's not unusual for news to be tipped off about high profile arrests.

The strange part is the focus on CNN as if they can find the coordination then it makes Stones indictment go away. I guess when it’s to hard to address the real issue the only thing you’re left with is flailing.
 
Well, I guess Roger Stone should be glad he doesn't live in a secluded area, or maybe a sniper should have shot his wife and kid this morning ala Randy Weaver given the absurd force being used for the cameras.

And all the collusion stuff is just more media nonsense. Process crimes. It's all about appearance. Always has been.

Maybe the FBI wasn't even there and CNN staged the whole thing with help from George Soros and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez? We should look into this.

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The strange part is the focus on CNN as if they can find the coordination then it makes Stones indictment go away. I guess when it’s to hard to address the real issue the only thing you’re left with is flailing.

Yeah what's been happening for the last 10 pages is a coordinated effort to derail the thread through repetition of talking points while ignoring all counter points and @computer fogie is finally getting on top of it a bit.

These rubes aren't even paid Russian bot's, they just care very much for their master.
 
Maybe the FBI wasn't even there and CNN staged the whole thing with help from George Soros and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez? We should look into this.

<TheDonald>

And you find that kind of thinking more absurd than yourself claiming the agents aren't paid and this absurd raid cost the taxpayers nothing. I'm sure people on the corner somewhere would buy it.
 
the paranoia and shutdown are really getting to him. Lotta of insanity going on this tweet

Greatest witch hunt in the history of your country?
I'm pretty sure those poor women who were executed for being witches would disagree Donnie....
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Well, I guess Roger Stone should be glad he doesn't live in a secluded area, or maybe a sniper should have shot his wife and kid this morning ala Randy Weaver given the absurd force being used for the cameras.

And all the collusion stuff is just more media nonsense. Process crimes. It's all about appearance. Always has been.

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Why do you think Grand Juries are held behind closed doors and are secret?

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that was not the question. the 'arrest' itself is a result of the investigation, it not a leak of any of the investigation details.

Please cite the legal statute that says the leak of an arrest warrant is a crime or admit you have no clue what you are talking about.
 
You have to listen to the tapes... o wait. What tapes
Isn't it confirmed they got a wiretap? If so it means this is all still low hanging fruit- they haven't at all exposed the actual hard to get evidence which, assuming they have, should be the most damaging and pertaining to higher profile suspects.
 
Why do you think Grand Juries are held behind closed doors and are secret?

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Answering a question with a question then using a meme....nice dodge, so I'll ask again. What law was broken if a leak actually occurred?
 
that was not the question. the 'arrest' itself is a result of the investigation, it not a leak of any of the investigation details.

Please cite the legal statute that says the leak of an arrest warrant is a crime or admit you have no clue what you are talking about.

Agreed, total bullshit look over there crap trying to make this about CNN. Chad Ochocinco was tweeting about his witnessing the arrest this morning because it's a public event.

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You literally said nothing, sounds like you don't fully understand how these weak charges tie into Russian collusion.
It sounds like you're illiterate. The full text of the indictment has been posted multiple times.

Stone coordinated with Wikileaks on the timing of the release of the emails and he knew the source of the emails was Russian hackers. He communicated directly with them as well. Stone coordinated with the administration on the timing of the release of the emails. There has long been a prima facie case for Trump's campaign having a connection to the Russian election interference campaign. This makes it practically a slam dunk if the charges against Stone are proven in court.

Stone lied about the existence of records of his communications with other conspirators (for lack of a better term, pending results of judicial proceedings yet to take place) and with Wikileaks. He attempted to get other witnesses to also lie, i.e. witness tampering, which has to be one of the most serious offenses there is, if the justice system is to take itself seriously. And all of this appears to be in writing, in the form of texts, emails, and Twitter messages.

There are a total of 7 charges, of which lying in his testimony is perhaps the least serious. Of course, it's all accusation until proven in court, but if they have the evidence they claim to have (and why wouldn't they?) that won't be hard.

Anymore questions?
 
@Whippy McGee still purposefully ignoring all explanations of how investigative journalism works in an effort to derail the thread.

This thread is about the fact that the 2016 Trump campaign colluded with Russia and the various arrests that have come from that investigation. Good luck staying on topic so you don't get spanked like @grizzard2bid.
 
"Declaration of Emergency" incoming...

This is kinda where I was going with it..

Everyone gets paid + irs open for taxes + can make his SOTU saying he fixed everything...

But three weeks later when it closes down again, can claim everyone has enough money to last another month long shut shut down..

Hey everyone, look ever here now... Not at the Stone news today..

And in two months if it is still not going his way, then he will try the Emergency route.

Lols..


Trump Likely to Announce Deal to End Government Shutdown for Three Weeks
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Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader, on Friday on Capitol Hill.CreditErin Schaff for The New York Times


By Sheryl Gay Stolberg, Nicholas Fandos and Peter Baker

  • Jan. 25, 2019
WASHINGTON — President Trump appeared poised to agree on Friday to reopen the federal government for three weeks while negotiations proceed over how to secure the nation’s southern border, backing down after a monthlong standoff failed to force Democrats to give him billions of dollars for his long-promised wall.

The decision would pave the way for Congress to quickly pass spending bills that Mr. Trump will sign to restore normal operations at a series of federal agencies that have been shuttered for 35 days and begin paying again the 800,000 federal workers who have been furloughed or forced to work for free.

The announcement, expected about 1:30 p.m., would be a remarkable comedown for a president who made the wall his unwavering, nonnegotiable condition for reopening the government, although one official cautioned that Mr. Trump could change his mind.

But if Mr. Trump follows through on such a deal, he would be relenting as the effects of the shutdown rippled across the Northeast with air traffic slowing because of a shortage of air traffic controllers who called in sick rather than continue to report to work without pay.


With polls showing the president enduring most of the blame by the public, Republicans led by Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, pressured Mr. Trump to agree to the temporary cease-fire. Over the next three weeks, a committee representing both parties will negotiate a border security plan, but if it fails to reach a consensus, government agencies could close once again.

The announcement comes one day after two competing measures failed on the Senate floor, with a Democratic bill, which would have reopened the government with no strings attached, receiving more votes than the bill backed by Mr. Trump, which included protections for some immigrants in exchange for $5.7 billion for the president’s proposed border wall.

Mr. McConnell spent part of Friday morning talking to Mr. Trump about what kind of border security the president would accept — other than a wall — in exchange for a promise from Democrats that they would at least debate the wall in the Senate during the regular course of business, according to a senior Republican aide familiar with the talks.

This person said that Mr. McConnell’s goal was to pressure moderate Democrats, who had expressed openness to a physical barrier, to agree to one. If they did not, the person said, Republicans or Mr. Trump could shut down the government again — with much of the pressure caused by 800,000 federal workers who had gone with out pay somewhat alleviated.


On the Senate floor on Thursday, a bipartisan group of senators signed on to an amendment that would open the government for three weeks without conditions and with a commitment in good faith to negotiate a broader border security solution in that time.

“What we have put on the table is our reputation as legislations, that given three weeks, we’ll come up with a successful conclusion on the border security issue,” said Senator Benjamin Cardin, Democrat of Maryland.

Republican leaders tried to rally their members during a closed policy luncheon before Thursday’s votes. But even as Republicans prepared to support Mr. Trump’s plan, there were signs of mounting frustration over the tactics being used around the continued impasse and a lack of momentum toward a solution.

At one point during the lunch, Senator Ron Johnson, Republican of Wisconsin, vented at Mr. McConnell for putting Republicans in the position of having to vote on two competing approaches to reopen the government — one Republican and one Democratic — without consulting Senate Republicans first.


”You put us in this position,” Mr. Johnson said, according to one of his aides. Another senior Republican aide familiar with the exchange said Mr. Johnson told Mr. McConnell it was “your fault.” Mr. McConnell, who had largely absented himself from negotiations to reopen the government until late last week, responded, “Are you suggesting I’m enjoying this?”

Details of the exchange were first reported by The Washington Post.

At another point, Mr. McConnell also signaled Vice President Mike Pence, who was present for the lunch, that Senate Republicans were generally not supportive of shutdowns.

“There is no education in the second kick of a mule,” he said, repeating a line he has used frequently, according to another person familiar with the exchange.

And other Republican senators made their own reservations about the continued shutdown clear. Senator Dan Sullivan of Alaska raised the crippling impact on the Coast Guard, for instance, this person said.
 
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