Law ***PAYBACK: Barr Assigns Top Prosecutor to Russia BS / UPDATE REPORT LEAKS START***

[King of Fists]

 

[Madmick]

Seems legit.
He's completely impartial.

He's no less partial than the Democrats in the House, or the bad actors in the FBI.

One gets what one deserves, and they got William Barr.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

He's no less partial than the Democrats in the House, or the bad actors in the FBI.

One gets what one deserves, and they got William Barr.

Two wrongs make the right

 

[Andy Capp]

Lowered it down to criminal referrals have we? All this boasting and you don't even have the balls to predict a single criminal charge?

I guess you've got to get ready to spin this nothingburger into some sort of victory.

Happy to take any bet you're willing to welch on later.

It's because they know "payback" is a dumb fucking excuse for a partisan investigation and they are full of hypocrisy nachos from crowing about this bogus crap after projecting at people about how they were supposedly enjoying Trump's impeachment.

 

[Andy Capp]

Well think about it. Imagine if Obama was newly elected and everyone on the right immediately said it was illegitimate, that Obama colluded with Russia to win, and almost immediately Eric Holder recused himself and let the Republicans appoint a Special Council. Then 3 years later after going after his family and everyone around him, and dragging him through the mud all the way, it is discovered that the Republican party had orchestrated entire thing from the get go. The media would rightly be calling it a coup attempt and they'd be camped outside everyone's doors demanding justice. Pretty convenient of Republicans when caught and investigated to then say "oh well, now that it's our turn in the hot seat, let's all just try to get along, and forget all this and make up.

The left and the media of today only support investigations that hurt Republicans and they do everything possible to cover up and minimize anything that hurts their party. There is no such thing as equal treatment by the media these days and something needs to be done about it.

Body slamming anyone and everyone who was behind this coup attempt would go a long way towards changing that. @Happy Man posted yesterday that the Dems have attempted to impeach 5 out of the last 6 Republican Presidents! They got away with it and now they outright tried to frame Trump for treason. That's fucking insane and unless they are held accountable it will only get worse.

Yeah, think about it. Imagine if Obama had to settle for paying out $25M in a fraud lawsuit for his sham university and then he was found to have been consorting with Russian criminals during a campaign in which it was shown the Russians were running an operation to influence the election, and then spent hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money at his own properties for the purpose of personal enrichment, rented an entire floor of his building to SA, and then got convicted of fraud to the tune of $2M for his sham charity. And then after all that he attempted to extort the head of state of a foreign nation for personal gain. Imagine if he had done all that.

 

[Madmick]

Two wrongs make the right

They might not make right, but in a contentious partisan theater, they balance each other out, and that's better than allowing one wrong to persist unchecked.

After all, the Democrats in here still refuse to accept the extent to which Trump has been wronged. There's endless apologism and equivocation.

 

[MikeMcMann]

You don't believe that. The Barr opinion report should be Onion material if it ever drops.

Bill Barr is so rustled the IG position is an Independent audit of the DOJ and not subservient like the Mueller probe was. He is so rustled that he could not keep and hold the IG Report and release his own 'Summary' he is now chasing the report with to try and set a different narrative.

It is laughable seeing him race on to TV, knowing that allowing the IG Report to resonate out their on its own will control talking points and narrative and get set in peoples mind.

Barr has entirely exposed himself again as nothing but a lackey to Trump without an inch o space between the two for Barr to act with any independence if contradicts his boss.

It is shameful that John Durham is also now a proven lackey hand picked by Barr because he is on board the agenda. But better Durham play that hand now then pretend up until he dropped his report that he was acting with any independence.

All of the substantive claims (no bad faith, no spying, nothing that undermined the origins of the investigation in a meaningful way) , NOTHING other than process errors which is a very different thing than team Trump claimed prior or pretending exists now.

Trumps hand picked FBI Director Christopher Wray, said it best that it was "important that the inspector general found that, in this particular instance, the investigation was opened with appropriate predication and authorization."

Oh poor Bill. The facts were never on your side but you hoped to control the narrative knowing that power that has and that slipped away from you. You have neither the facts nor the narrative on your side now and only the most loyal dupe Trumpsters will buy what you will now chase to sell.

The IG beat Durham to the punch by dropping his report first and now you suck on sour grapes.

 

[MikeMcMann]

They might not make right, but in a contentious partisan theater, they balance each other out, and that's better than allowing one wrong to persist unchecked.

After all, the Democrats in here still refuse to accept the extent to which Trump has been wronged. There's endless apologism and equivocation.

Do you acknowledge that one side of the partisan theatre has very serious misrepresentations that would undermine the constitution and damage an ally in favour of antagonist country?

The Republicans, if successful, will normalize this and future POTUS's being free to not just invited foreign countries into US elections to undermine political opponents under the thinnest of justifications, but also in using US Intelligence assets to do so. Two of the biggest concerns the Framers had about abuse of power.

The Republicans, if successful will shift the blame from Russia to Ukraine for the meddling and weaken Ukraine's position against Russia and forward Russia's goals.

You've seemed to dance around acknowledging the very real stakes here in favour of trying to 'both sides' everything.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I sometimes wonder if Bill Barr realizes he is not gonna be AG forever. I believe he's actually just made the same calculation Trump has, win in 2020 or it's slammer time.

Bill Barr is not at risk of going to jail for anything he has done, unlike Trump. But he certainly should be censured and disbarred. Those are a slam dunk for his proven lying under oath to Congress.

 

[unimackpass]

"Does this report exonerate Comey as he claims?"

"No, this report does not exonerate anybody."

 

[Andy Capp]

They might not make right, but in a contentious partisan theater, they balance each other out, and that's better than allowing one wrong to persist unchecked.

After all, the Democrats in here still refuse to accept the extent to which Trump has been wronged. There's endless apologism and equivocation.

Do the convictions, criminal prosecution referrals, and other findings of fact stemming from the Mueller investigation suggest there was no probable cause to investigate the Trump Campaign?

 

[MikeMcMann]

Do the convictions, criminal prosecution referrals, and other findings of fact stemming from the Mueller investigation suggest there was no probable cause to investigate the Trump Campaign?

The idea that Trump has been "wronged" is a pure partisan talking point @Madmick got from Fox and Friends.

Any wrong Trump has received was brought on to him by his own actions and that is factually established.

There is no circumstances under which the Republicans should not have launched the Mueller investigation as they did when you have reports from Trump Campaign people telling others Russia is helping the campaign, on top of Trump calling for said help, and so many in his orbit lying about relations with Russia.

There is no circumstance Trump should not be impeached for this current Ukraine fiasco. You can see the dossier he was having Giuliani build to take down Biden, filled with allegations and smears, not meant to convict in the courts but to destroy his campaign. We know for fact Trump would never have stopped on that front had it not been for this Impeachment. And we know that because even with the Impeachment he and Rudy will not stop.

The only thing that has changed is that now their narrative will come out AFTER its been exposed and therefore the scrutiny is on Trump (rightly) whereas if the prior Ukraine President was re-elected and everything went to the prior plan it would have been released prior to this being exposed and it would have been Biden on the defense as the press tore thru the dossier and kept him answering questions.

 

[MilesAbove]

You accusing the UPS man of fucking your wife because your jelly that he has a job you envy doesn’t make him guilty.
I know it sucks that his methods are successful, he’s on time, the neighbors are happy and UPS made him employee of the month. There’s no job opening at this time..

18 U.S. Code § 872:
2 U.S. Code § 192,
18 U.S. Code § 610
18 U.S. Code § 607
18 U.S. Code § 30121

 

[unimackpass]

Wow, even Rolling Stone gets this.


https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...t-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/
Corroboration Zero’: An Inspector General’s Report Reveals the Steele Dossier Was Always a Joke

If the report released Monday by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz constitutes a “clearing” of the FBI, never clear me of anything. Holy God, what a clown show the Trump-Russia investigation was.

Like the much-ballyhooed report by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the Horowitz report is a Rorschach test, in which partisans will find what they want to find.

Much of the press is concentrating on Horowitz’s conclusion that there was no evidence of “political bias or improper motivation” in the FBI’s probe of Donald Trump’s Russia contacts, an investigation Horowitz says the bureau had “authorized purpose” to conduct.

Horowitz uses phrases like “serious performance failures,” describing his 416-page catalogue of errors and manipulations as incompetence rather than corruption. This throws water on the notion that the Trump investigation was a vast frame-up.

 

[unimackpass]

More from Rolling Stone

However, Horowitz describes at great length an FBI whose “serious” procedural problems and omissions of “significant information” in pursuit of surveillance authority all fell in the direction of expanding the unprecedented investigation of a presidential candidate (later, a president).




https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...att-taibbi-katie-halper-useful-idiots-920375/


Officials on the “Crossfire Hurricane” Trump-Russia investigators went to extraordinary, almost comical lengths to seek surveillance authority of figures like Trump aide Carter Page. In one episode, an FBI attorney inserted the words “not a source” in an email he’d received from another government agency. This disguised the fact that Page had been an informant for that agency, and had dutifully told the government in real time about being approached by Russian intelligence. The attorney then passed on the email to an FBI supervisory special agent, who signed a FISA warrant application on Page that held those Russian contacts against Page, without disclosing his informant role....

Horowitz ratifies the oft-denounced “Nunes memo.”

Democrats are not going to want to hear this, since conventional wisdom says former House Intelligence chief Devin Nunes is a conspiratorial evildoer, but the Horowitz report ratifies the major claims of the infamous “Nunes memo.”

As noted, Horowitz establishes that the Steele report was crucial to the FISA process, even using the same language Nunes used (“essential”). He also confirms the Nunes assertion that the FBI double-dipped in citing both Steele and a September 23, 2016 Yahoo! news story using Steele as an unnamed source. Horowitz listed the idea that Steele did not directly provide information to the press as one of seven significant “inaccuracies or omissions” in the first FISA application.

Horowitz also verifies the claim that Steele was “closed for cause” for talking to the media, i.e. officially cut off as a confidential human source to the FBI. He shows that Steele continued to talk to Justice Official Bruce Ohr before and after Steele’s formal relationship with the FBI ended. His report confirms that the Steele information had not been corroborated when the FISA application was submitted, another key Nunes point.

There was gnashing of teeth when Nunes first released his memo in January, 2018. The press universally crapped on his letter, with a Washington Post piece calling it a “joke” and a “sham.” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi slammed Nunes for the release of a “bogus” document, while New York Senator Chuck Schumer said the memo was intended to “sow conspiracy theories and attack the integrity of federal law enforcement.” Many called for his removal as Committee chair.

The Horowitz report says all of that caterwauling was off-base. It also undercuts many of the assertions made in a ballyhooed response letter by Nunes counterpart Adam Schiff, who described the FBI’s “reasonable basis” for deeming Steele credible. The report is especially hostile to Schiff’s claim that the FBI “provided additional information obtained through multiple independent sources that corroborated Steele’s reporting.”

 

[Witchhunt]

18 U.S. Code § 872:
2 U.S. Code § 192,
18 U.S. Code § 610
18 U.S. Code § 607
18 U.S. Code § 30121

Sorry puddin' but the courts will rule on the subpoena's, as is procedure and...…. the rest are accusations without evidence. But we don't need to argue about it here, it'll be sorted out in the senate soon enough..

Meanwhile, enjoy the hearings...

 

[MilesAbove]

Sorry puddin' but the courts will rule on the subpoena's, as is procedure and...…. the rest are accusations without evidence. But we don't need to argue about it here, it'll be sorted out in the senate soon enough..

Meanwhile, enjoy the hearings...

Ah the ole talk-down strategy. Best to avoid the reality the facts of action and instead lean on the partisan cucking of an entire party.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

All one has to do is look at the findings of the report, its game over. It was a rigged investigation propped up by fraud and lies.

Carter Page won't be kept from the headlines. He will get his pound of flesh.

 

[SBJJ]

Horowitz seems to be saying that while he found no physical evidence of bias for the START of the investigation. He will not say that about the FISA applications.

 

[Big Dick Cheney**]

Let's see. Trump has this habit of big promises with little delivery.

What has he not delivered on?