Patterson Gimlin Bigfoot Video

jgarner said:
Well just watching that video, I don't see anything in it that leads me to believe it couldn't just be a dude in a monkey suit. It also looks a lot like a person in how it stands up at the end. Looks pretty human in a suitish to me. I'm also not really believing the run at the end. Dude was calm enough to stand there filming it but the second it stands up he decides he needs to go crashing through the brush to escape? Just seems like poorly made fiction.

Even the Freeman footage is lame. Nothing about it looks like wild ape to me. Half of the time it looks like some dude staring at the ground trying not to trip while walking around in a monkey suit.

I just don't find this evidence compelling enough to believe in something so extraordinary as a big monkey. If anything I'm far more willing to believe that they were tricked by people who thought it would be funny to pretend to be bigfoot for some lunatic in the woods looking for bigfoot. That seems more reasonable than the monkey to me.



I'm sorry i ruin your fun fantasy world of magic, bigfoot, ghosts, crystals, Jesus, McFlurry, Q-anon, flat earther and whatever other crazy things people make up. I just can't help the way my brain works. Is it not a good thing to have high standards for information you use to go through life with? You're talking like using logic and accurate facts is a bad thing, which sounds crazy to me. The real world is cool enough for me. There are plenty of amazing things that actually exist in this world. That shit doesn't excite you more than silly fiction like bigfoot?

If you don't like what I have to say, you can choose not to interact with me. It's not like I'm knocking on your front door demanding you listen to me.



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Are you aware of how silly that sounds? Not even humans are smart enough to remain hidden from humans. You're now attributing super-genius and super-lucky characteristics to an animal to explain why there's no actual evidence of said animal even existing. It seems like a poor standard to be able to declare something as real on the basis that we can't prove it doesn't exist. You're getting into Flying Spaghetti Monster territory at that point.
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You keep making this leap that autheicirt of video automatically concludes that this is a Bigfoot The whole argument here has been whether or not the thing in the video is a man in suit or not. That is the lowest denominator of my premise

You didn't answer my question I asked if you felt these videos were in the same league as PG
 
BluntForceTrama said:
You keep making this leap that autheicirt of video automatically concludes that this is a Bigfoot The whole argument here has been whether or not the thing in the video is a man in suit or not. That is the lowest denominator of my premise

You didn't answer my question I asked if you felt these videos were in the same league as PG
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What other question about the video could there be other than, "is it a bigfoot or a person in a monkey suit"?

They all seem to be in the same league to me, which is the Not Very Believable League.
 
jgarner said:
<Huh2>

Are you aware of how silly that sounds? Not even humans are smart enough to remain hidden from humans. You're now attributing super-genius and super-lucky characteristics to an animal to explain why there's no actual evidence of said animal even existing. It seems like a poor standard to be able to declare something as real on the basis that we can't prove it doesn't exist. You're getting into Flying Spaghetti Monster territory at that point.
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If a human was smart enough to stay hidden from other people, you wouldn't know about him to say he doesn't exist, would you?
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this is off topic so ill delete if the ts says too no problem.

i think some of the skeptics of the possibility that the pg footage is real might benefit from a couple of thoughtful videos on the topic of the possible existence of bigfoot.

this is one of my favorite subjects on this planet. it would be a great joy to me if somebody was exposed to this possibility through one of these videos.



 
jgarner said:
I'm sorry i ruin your fun fantasy world of magic, bigfoot, ghosts, crystals, Jesus, McFlurry, Q-anon, flat earther and whatever other crazy things people make up. I just can't help the way my brain works. Is it not a good thing to have high standards for information you use to go through life with? You're talking like using logic and accurate facts is a bad thing, which sounds crazy to me. The real world is cool enough for me. There are plenty of amazing things that actually exist in this world. That shit doesn't excite you more than silly fiction like bigfoot?

If you don't like what I have to say, you can choose not to interact with me. It's not like I'm knocking on your front door demanding you listen to me.
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Most would come to the logical conclusion that you suffer greatly from an obsessive personality disorder, a unique case which inhibits the use of willpower or personal history of past discussions that would curtail a frighteningly manic and relentless desire to interject your own stance on whatever the topic may be, mundane or fantastic, fringe or mainstream.

I can't recall at any point during my entire time on this forum seeing you successfully change anyone's viewpoint regarding any one of the absolute litany of topics you've felt the overwhelming urge to bombard with belittling comments, condescending attitude, and generally aggressive and shitty disposition.

A resoundingly awful track record such as yours only leads one to believe either A) You have no desire whatsoever to change anyone's mind and your only real goal is to put others down for ideas they have that you disagree with or find ridiculous, or B) You are unaware of what it actually takes to convince someone of your stance and are so socially inept that you believe your methods are at all effective, despite the mountains of anecdotal evidence to the contrary.

I honestly feel sorry for you.
 
this is my favorite bigfoot account of all time. it is so good. if you have not been exposed to this account you will not regret taking the time to listen to it.

 
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bandicoot said:
Most would come to the logical conclusion that you suffer greatly from an obsessive personality disorder, a unique case which inhibits the use of willpower or personal history of past discussions that would curtail a frighteningly manic and relentless desire to interject your own stance on whatever the topic may be, mundane or fantastic, fringe or mainstream.
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And most people would come to the conclusion that you're a crazy person who believes in bigfoot while pretending to psychoanalyze someone on the internet.

I can't recall at any point during my entire time on this forum seeing you successfully change anyone's viewpoint regarding any one of the absolute litany of topics you've felt the overwhelming urge to bombard with belittling comments, condescending attitude, and generally aggressive and shitty disposition.
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I think that says more about what threads you choose to go into than anything else. If you don't see my positive interactions then it's only because you're in stupid threads like this one.

A resoundingly awful track record such as yours only leads one to believe either A) You have no desire whatsoever to change anyone's mind and your only real goal is to put others down for ideas they have that you disagree with or find ridiculous, or B) You are unaware of what it actually takes to convince someone of your stance and are so socially inept that you believe your methods are at all effective, despite the mountains of anecdotal evidence to the contrary.

I honestly feel sorry for you.
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Or... the people that disagree with what I have said are so ridiculous that there's no reasoning with them.

I feel sorry that you put so much time into learning who I am on a deep level. It's rather flattering that I'm living in your brain rent free. That said, I genuinely have no idea who you are. Sorry I can't reciprocate your obsession with me.
 
jgarner said:
And most people would come to the conclusion that you're a crazy person who believes in bigfoot while pretending to psychoanalyze someone on the internet.



I think that says more about what threads you choose to go into than anything else. If you don't see my positive interactions then it's only because you're in stupid threads like this one.



Or... the people that disagree with what I have said are so ridiculous that there's no reasoning with them.

I feel sorry that you put so much time into learning who I am on a deep level. It's rather flattering that I'm living in your brain rent free. That said, I genuinely have no idea who you are. Sorry I can't reciprocate your obsession with me.
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You have abysmal reading comprehension and the feigned arrogance you use to deflect what I've said is exactly what I expected, not to mention the automatic assumption that I take issue with you solely because of a difference of opinion.

I can assure you, I dislike you because you're a grade A dick head, not because of any of your beliefs or opinions.
 
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bandicoot said:
You have abysmal reading comprehension and the feigned arrogance you use to deflect what I've said is exactly what I expected, not to mention the automatic assumption that I take issue with you solely because of a difference of opinion.

I can assure you, I dislike you because you're a grade A dick head, not because of any of your beliefs or opinions.
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You two should fight IRL and stream it that would take this thread from a good laugh to legendary status!
 
IloveTHIS said:
You two should fight IRL and stream it that would take this thread from a good laugh to legendary status!
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I FIND IT HIGHLY UNNECESSARY TO PHYSICALLY FIGHT SOMEONE WHEN THEY HAVE ALREADY CONCEDED DEFEAT VIA THE USE OF DISMISSIVE PHRASES LIKE 'RENT FREE' AND 'IDK WHO YOU ARE'

HE TAPPED AS SOON AS HE UTTERED THOSE TIRED ASS LINES

btw I miss the all caps version of @IloveTHIS
 
spacegnome said:
this is off topic so ill delete if the ts says too no problem.

i think some of the skeptics of the possibility that the pg footage is real might benefit from a couple of thoughtful videos on the topic of the possible existence of bigfoot.

this is one of my favorite subjects on this planet. it would be a great joy to me if somebody was exposed to this possibility through one of these videos.



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I like Gymlan's channel, and have watched a few of his videos. He did a good one about the likelihood of a N American great ape, and how it would make sense that they've been around since the days of the Megafuana.

Many accounts speak of their prodigious roar, and how paralyzing it is. People often describe it as being so jarring it can be felt throughout the entire body; which make sense when you assume it's got to be at least as loud as a Gorilla's roar (but likely stronger, as it's essentially a bigger and stronger version of the creature).

Gorilla Roar timestamped



Account where a roar is reported as being used to startle hogs during an attack.



In the below video there are some supposed captures of them "talking". It's vocals that were supposedly gathered after a concerted effort to gain the trust of some Sasquatch that were living close by. I find it compelling, but clearly it cannot be verified. Timestamped:

 
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BluntForceTrama said:
Actually the direct opposite bud. I want to debunk this video so bad.

Here's what Hollywood was messing around with in 1968 The two guys who shot the video, Patterson and Gimlin, probably had an IQ of 150


That's combined
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And they used a Potato camera.


Potato camera for Potato I.Qs
 
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