Rewatch Overeem destroying Pavlovich

Stone Golem said:
Really? Are you daft?

A single "good strike" means nothing,

You forgot to include the footage where Stipe recovered, reversed, and then chased the cowardly Overeem all over the cage again ... finishing him on the floor.
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Lol in this sport a good punch means everything. You are being a dummy.
 
A lot of weird things said in this thread.

Huge win for Reem. It was his big 1st test of his 3rd generation of fighters and he passed.

Pavlovich did an awesome job of learning and pulling himself up with some good wins after.

He's one of the more exciting prospects.

There's a whole group of HW's with Aspinall, Blaydes, Gane, Pavlovich, and a few more X factors that should make up for a lot of good match making.
 
Sherbros please take it easy on @Stone Golem hes a Noob and just catching up on the sport. He will learn all these things you are pointing out eventually
 
Gamer2k4 said:
I wouldn't say he "destroyed" Pavlovich. Until the takedown, things were fairly even, with Pavlovich perhaps even getting the better of the few striking exchanges. But once he was on his back, he didn't seem to have anything - no attempts to scramble up, not even a thought for truly intelligent defense beyond just covering up.

I suspect Jones would absolutely have his way with Pavlovich. What's Sergei's path to winning, anyway? It sure isn't outwrestling Jones or knocking him out. And I don't give him a great chance of getting inside Jones's reach, either.
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If its anything I learned in this thread is that people are very liberal with the use of the word "Destroy"
 
Trabaho said:
He only landed one punch and backed up the whole fight. Ran from him. Body language scared and Stipe dominant. Stipe took the shot like a boss. Overeem ran from him.
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He landed 9 significant ones. One of which almost won him the fight. He was trying to get Stipe to chase him and expose himself. It almost worked.
 
I heard Jones used to school Overreem in training so if I use MMA math (which is 100% accurate 100% of the time) Jones basically already beat Pav. Pav ducking Jones confirmed.
 
Stone Golem said:
It's amazing how many deviants can't stick to the point(s).

Point 1: Pavlovich ain't all that -- got decimated by Overeem (outclassed on every level, finished in Round 1).
Point 2: Overeem ran from Stipe, like a coward ... and got beat TF down, also on the ground, in Round 1,

MORAL?: Pavlovich has only beaten scrubs, the WORST of the UFC .... to call him "elite" is a fogging joke.
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I half agree with you, Sergei is a little overrated, but he’s an elite HW because many other HWs have lost to sergei.
 
Captain_Dammitt said:
I heard Jones used to school Overreem in training so if I use MMA math (which is 100% accurate 100% of the time) Jones basically already beat Pav. Pav ducking Jones confirmed.
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Didn’t you see what Frank Mir did to JJ in the hallway?!?

jon Jones has never a guy with more BF than Gane at HW ever.
 
tramendous said:
He landed 9 significant ones. One of which almost won him the fight. He was trying to get Stipe to chase him and expose himself. It almost worked.
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And Stipe landed 34.

You don't even know what you are arguing about. You are saying scoring a knockdown and attempting a guillotine is almost winning the fight while finishing your opponent in less than a full round after having your opponent run away from you doesn't qualify as "destroying." You even had the nerve to argue that Volk vs Ortega was even more dominant because it was a five round decision and Volk was genuinely close to getting finished. He also couldn't outstrike a submission artist more than Stipe was able to outstrike a 250 lbs former kickboxing champion.

Like I told you before, take the L.
 
LoveSherdogThisTime said:
And Stipe landed 34.

You don't even know what you are arguing about. You are saying scoring a knockdown and attempting a guillotine is almost winning the fight while finishing your opponent in less than a full round after having your opponent run away from you doesn't qualify as "destroying." You even had the nerve to argue that Volk vs Ortega was even more dominant because it was a five round decision and Volk was genuinely close to getting finished. He also couldn't outstrike a submission artist more than Stipe was able to outstrike a 250 lbs former kickboxing champion.

Like I told you before, take the L.
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It aint that serious sherbro. I never disputed how many strikes Stipe landed, if you read carefully and breathe normally, you'd see I was responding to someone who said Reem only landed 1 punch. I repeat in a 1 round fight where 1 guy came back to win from nearly being KO'd, thats not destroy. In Volk vs Ortega, Ortega had 4 more rounds to create more opportunities but instead got dominated for 4 rounds. If that was a 1 round fight and it consisted of Volk coming back from being dropped and nearly choked and then knocking out Ortega in the same round and we saw nothing else, I'd say ya he didn't destroy Ortega.
 
tramendous said:
He landed 9 significant ones. One of which almost won him the fight. He was trying to get Stipe to chase him and expose himself. It almost worked.
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No he was scared running away. You're awful at reading body language. He got stomped but yes landed a great punch. Reem was already quiet over the hill at that fight. Reem is one of my favorites but he got intimidated and stomped. In like 7 minutes.

That wasn't tactic. Stipe was just too athletic and strong and Reem felt it. Reem lost half his muscles by that point in his career.
 
Trabaho said:
No he was scared running away. You're awful at reading body language. He got stomped but yes landed a great punch. Reem was already quiet over the hill at that fight. Reem is one of my favorites but he got intimidated and stomped. In like 7 minutes.

That wasn't tactic. Stipe was just too athletic and strong and Reem felt it. Reem lost half his muscles by that point in his career.
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Yet, two fights later, Reem decimated Pavlovich.

Proving "there are levels" to this game ...

Pavlovich still = lower level.
 
tramendous said:
It aint that serious sherbro. I never disputed how many strikes Stipe landed, if you read carefully and breathe normally, you'd see I was responding to someone who said Reem only landed 1 punch. I repeat in a 1 round fight where 1 guy came back to win from nearly being KO'd, thats not destroy. In Volk vs Ortega, Ortega had 4 more rounds to create more opportunities but instead got dominated for 4 rounds. If that was a 1 round fight and it consisted of Volk coming back from being dropped and nearly choked and then knocking out Ortega in the same round and we saw nothing else, I'd say ya he didn't destroy Ortega.
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Dude he wasn't almost KOd. He recovered immediately. Like go re-watch the fight. You're fanboying. Stipe got up and started chasing him.

Prime Reem vs Stipe would've been something else. But at that point the hirsemeat diet already stopped working and made him worse.

Ubereem that fought Lesnar might've been the strongest fighter ever. But it was illegal and unfair and didn't last.
He literally won a K1 Wgp in that Form. He stopped people there. The best strikers on planet earth without a weight limit. We all should know 250 pound Kickboxers with +50 fights expirience beat some 145 pound Thais and HW boxers who know how to fight with kicks but not punched.
 
Stone Golem said:
Yet, two fights later, Reem decimated Pavlovich.

Proving "there are levels" to this game ...

Pavlovich still = lower level.
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Pavlovich was like 22. That's a awfully hard debut fight. Yeah Reem dominated him. No shame in that. Reem is a HW great. Top 10 hw of all time.
 
Trabaho said:
Pavlovich was like 22. That's a awfully hard debut fight. Yeah Reem dominated him. No shame in that. Reem is a HW great. Top 10 hw of all time.
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But who has Pavlovich really faced since that decimation?

Multi-losers, quitters, cover-ups.

Pavlovich has never faced another hunter, on an elite level, after ovary.

He folded (like a lawn chair) when pressured by an authentic man.

And yet, Overeem himself folded to Stipe.

I'm simply not convinced by the hype. Pavlovich has faced cans since Overeem.
 
Stone Golem said:
Yet, two fights later, Reem decimated Pavlovich.

Proving "there are levels" to this game ...

Pavlovich still = lower level.
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Is Stipe still a low level fighter because he lost to Struve?

Who else among the elites got a top 5 fighter right off the bat in their debut anyway?

Maybe this is too much for your brain to handle but there is something called the concept of growth. Otherwise I guess Fedor < Kosaka still.
 
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