Outside of Conor, Would anyone find PPV success Outside of the UFC?????

[loisestrad]

Tjis literally causes me physical pain to say but...I think that just based on his big dumba$$ mouth, Colby Covington could be a PPV draw outside the UFC.

Based on him not being a ppv draw inside of the UFC?

 

[BlankaPresident]

I'm dumbfounded that the PPV model hasn't gone extinct already.

How many countries still have people stupid enough to pay near hundred dollars for a MMA card? United States, Canada, maybe UK?

 

[Like a fiddle]

Even Conor I doubt would pull any sort of significant numbers fighting on a PFL card or something. At his peak, maybe, but not now.

 

[gracie_barra_samurai]

Khabib vs GSP in a grappling match would do major numbers.

 

[skylolow]

There is no active fighter outside of Conor that would do good PPV numbers with out the UFC.


Now if we live in fantasy land and some how UFC let Jones walk after fighting two fights(after Stipe fight) of his 8 fight deal I do believe him and Francis probably would do decent numbers. Even better numbers if they could get Jake Paul's first MMA fight as the Co-Main.

 

[Darragh]

I'm dumbfounded that the PPV model hasn't gone extinct already.

How many countries still have people stupid enough to pay near hundred dollars for a MMA card? United States, Canada, maybe UK?

It's true, typically the US gets the worst pricing.

 

[jsbx45]

ppv's too expensive these days and not as exciting as they used to be.

 

[PaulieVegas27]

Based on him not being a ppv draw inside of the UFC?

Yeah. That.

 

[jx820]

Yes, but it would depend on a lot of other factors besides JUST their name.

• The entirety of the matchup and undercard is very important (e.g. Jon vs Frank in the US with a decent undercard would work very well).
• Time slot and competition would matter. Is there another fight card that night? Is that card good?
• How good and how committed is the promoter? Do they have a decent PR team? How are they marketing it? Is it getting coverage on ESPN and Barstool?

It's tough to do an apples to apples comparison because most guys aren't viewed the same by the time they leave the UFC as they are when they are in it. Typically they leave the UFC past prime and in a slump.

Nate vs Masvidal at UFC 244 was a main event at MSG. It did over 6 million live gate and over 900k paper view buys. The same two guys boxing this year did 1.25 million gate and was a PPV flop. It failed to a degree that Diaz had to sue the promoter.

 

[skylolow]

I'm dumbfounded that the PPV model hasn't gone extinct already.

How many countries still have people stupid enough to pay near hundred dollars for a MMA card? United States, Canada, maybe UK?

Most countries in the world don't have a PPV model like the US. Some country's its just part of your regular tv package and other countries(like European countries) its part of like a sports package or a certain channel package/app (think like MAX in the US or ESPN+ or DAZN) and that includes all the UFC events plus many other sports and programming also and only cost like $10 to $20 bucks a month.

Really it is the US, Canada, and the UK has like hybrid of PPV. UK I believe you pay for like a ESPN+ style package/app but some events require a small fee on top of that to access it (Like $10 to $20 or whatever). I don't know if the UFC PPV event is like that in the UK or not, I know big boxing matches are usually like that or historically have been.


P.S.: US market is one of the few markets in the world that a large percentage of the households pay like $200 a month for TV/Internet like its a general utility bill and then some of them are willing to pay $50 to $100 for a PPV event on top of that. That is why all these orgs around the world want to break into the US market to get that lucrative media deal. All this allows networks to hand out big media deals compared to many other parts of the world.

 

[JKS]

I think a lot of it would have to do with the match up. You can't really take one guy from the UFC and match em up with a fighter from a different promotion that has little selling ability, let's be honest most don't have it.

It would need to be two fighters that are good draws.

 

[blaseblase]

If Jones had been able to get out of his contract when he wanted the fight vs Ngannou would have been a super fight anywhere. Ngannou by himself fighting heavyweights casuals don't know about isn't a draw though.

 

[El Fernas]

It's true, typically the US gets the worst pricing.

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In Mexico they still have a deal with Fox Sports, for the most part the PPV´s are on the "premium" channel, which is like 7-8usd a month if you dont have cable and pay as an extra on some streaming plattforms, regular cable its a different pricing but that already includes regular channels with Fight Night cards.

 

[hswrestler]

Colby Covington might do pretty well if he gets some loudmouth like Jake Paul or Ryan Garcia as a dance partner.

Ilia would do well in Spain

 

[NicholasJBasile]

Maybe Bones but honestly that's probably about it I reckon.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

no one is a big ppv draw outside the ufc. The ppv model has been dying for years no one will ever be able to sell ppv on his own unless they make it cheap around 20$ max

This is a good thing
The only PPV that could sell is something like Bones vs Francis, but even that wouldn't do 25% of the numbers it would in UFC. PFL can't sell 10k PPVs and they're supposedly #2.

 

[Dorkman]

It's true, typically the US gets the worst pricing.

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Would happily pay for cards if that's what we got in north america.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

Francis failed???

He pulled in more money than an entire UFC card and fought the HW boxing champ.