Outside of Conor, Would anyone find PPV success Outside of the UFC?????

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Just curious to know what everyone thinks.


If any current UFC fighter left the UFC would they succeed in generating PPV's????

Francis failed big time.
Brock, GSP and Ronda are retired.
Topuria, Suga, Paddy and Pereira haven't been the huge draws that people predicted, if we believe the metrics (PPV and otherwise). They may be huge within the MMA sphere, but not generally known outside of the UFC.
 
It really depends on what context.

The US numbers were crap for Francis because in part because it was in the afternoon on a Saturday during college football. Worldwide the buys were presumably much stronger, though DAZN hasn't released their official numbers.

As PFL matures it presumably will go head to head with UFC for time slots, but for right now the UFC has a functional monopoly (technically a monopsony according to their anti-trust suit).

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I appreciate the PFL for its more oldschool style announcing and fight cards. Battle of the Giants was stronger than most UFC events this year, just with a number of sound glitches. Big personalities now know there's a path and an alternative.

I hope they carve a niche out of the UFC, it's healthy for both fight organizations. A free market leads to the most efficient use of resources. Fans and fighters benefit in the end.

And if you're talking about UFC fighters doing exhibition boxing matches, Ngannou pulled in 400k ppv buys against Tyson, so that's another option for the top guys if they're willing to break contract with the UFC.
 
There is nobody who could do it on their own.

You could get some decent outside ppv buys if it were Jones, Pereira, maybe even Aspinall vs Francis. Outside of the rare one off fights that would be about it.
 
No. They all need the UFC machine behind them. There's still not a legitimate household name. PPVs are only getting more difficult to sell. I think most people have that "I'll check out the highlights or catch a stream later" mindset.
 
A lot of them could succeed at selling if they were Jake or Logan Paul's first MMA fight in my opinion.

Problem is finding these fighters an opponent that gets people excited to watch once they leave.
 
No.. and I don't even think Conor would sell a lot outside the UFC unless he gets a great dancing partner.

He had all the aura in the world vs Floyd.. and Floyd was still the best draw in boxing.
 
Tjis literally causes me physical pain to say but...I think that just based on his big dumba$$ mouth, Colby Covington could be a PPV draw outside the UFC.
 
Lionheart7167 said:
Just curious to know what everyone thinks.


If any current UFC fighter left the UFC would they succeed in generating PPV's????

Francis failed big time.
Brock, GSP and Ronda are retired.
Topuria, Suga, Paddy and Pereira haven't been the huge draws that people predicted, if we believe the metrics (PPV and otherwise). They may be huge within the MMA sphere, but not generally known outside of the UFC.
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Dana, is that you under another name?
 
I am not sure anyone even inside UFC could pull in the PPV numbers that Conor, Lesnar, Rousey, even Liddell and and Tito drew. If PFL put on a TV card with the right names (Francis, Cyborg) it might get UFC like ratings.
 
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That's 10x the number of buys from every other source I've found...
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I was just going off what Ariel said. I'm not sure as to the details, but I think he's looking at worldwide (as compared to in the US where the numbers were lower because the fight was geared to the UK).
 
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