Opinion Piece - "The UFC Is Making A Huge Mistake With Conor McGregor"

If the UFC doesn't make this right with Conor, it has the potential of being a huge mistake for them.
 
Didn't the UFC hire a hitman, 209, when McGregor's head had gotten even bigger than whenever?

We can speculate what is what and what is not, but the fact is UFC is the employeer, McGregor is the employee.
 
Final Say said:
One thing changes: revenue. It goes down. It is a perfect example of cutting off one's nose to spite his face.

Not to mention, this isn't personal. Think of it more as fighter(s) v promotion and not Conor v promotion. No fighters = no promotion. In that sense, you're incorrect and siding with the relatively useless, super rich and ruthless businessman who the sport can do completely without
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Establishing this precedent will cost more revenue in the long run
 
zerofux said:
If you don't realize what's happening here, there was a time when employers wouldn't think twice about asking employees to work late for straight pay. Everyone did it. No one complained. Then one guy said, "No. If you want me to work more hours than I agreed to, you have to pay me more." I'm sure when he said that, way back when, there were people like you who thought, "He agreed to work for a certain hourly rate. If he didn't like it, he shouldn't have taken the job. Everyone else is working late, what makes him so special." But then there were also people who thought, "Yeah, this is bullshit. The fact that I work for this guy doesn't mean he owns me." And now we have overtime pay and the world is a better place. Don't be that guy who tried to stop people from getting overtime pay.
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So now honoring your contract obligations is overtime? Wow. I think he's made enough unearned money for a lifetime. What burns my ass is he'll still be making more than Nate (if they fight) after getting his ass handed to him.
 
zerofux said:
If you don't realize what's happening here, there was a time when employers wouldn't think twice about asking employees to work late for straight pay. Everyone did it. No one complained. Then one guy said, "No. If you want me to work more hours than I agreed to, you have to pay me more." I'm sure when he said that, way back when, there were people like you who thought, "He agreed to work for a certain hourly rate. If he didn't like it, he shouldn't have taken the job. Everyone else is working late, what makes him so special." But then there were also people who thought, "Yeah, this is bullshit. The fact that I work for this guy doesn't mean he owns me." And now we have overtime pay and the world is a better place. Don't be that guy who tried to stop people from getting overtime pay.
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Except being flown around on a private jet and sitting in at pressers making millions and millions of dollars could not be further from a 12 hour minimum wage job shift.
 
Does anyone remember nick diaz getting pulled from a card for not doing press shit?
 
zerofux said:
It wasn't always like that in America. The greatest generation, the ones that won WWII, organized and built the middle class. Then these dumb ass baby boomer conservatives bought into a supply side economics in the '80s and thought if you demanded better pay and conditions, that made you a cry baby. Real men hand all the money and power over to their employers, then get on their knees and beg for raises and benefits.
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beta-shill revised US History
 
LilMountain said:
Establishing this precedent will cost more revenue in the long run
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While it's possible I doubt it because stars who are in a position to make demands (as conor is) are very few and far between.

That's obviously the stance they take though and I think it will hurt them.
 
Ingjr said:
So now honoring your contract obligations is overtime? Wow. I think he's made enough unearned money for a lifetime. What burns my ass is he'll still be making more than Nate (if they fight) after getting his ass handed to him.
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You don't know what his contract obligations are. Dana White was asked point blank if Conor was in breach of contract and he dismissed that. It burns me too that he'll be making more money than Nate in the rematch, not because what Conor makes, but because Nate is insanely underpaid. Nobody has done more to put money in Nate's pocket than Conor.
 
zerofux said:
If you don't realize what's happening here, there was a time when employers wouldn't think twice about asking employees to work late for straight pay. Everyone did it. No one complained. Then one guy said, "No. If you want me to work more hours than I agreed to, you have to pay me more." I'm sure when he said that, way back when, there were people like you who thought, "He agreed to work for a certain hourly rate. If he didn't like it, he shouldn't have taken the job. Everyone else is working late, what makes him so special." But then there were also people who thought, "Yeah, this is bullshit. The fact that I work for this guy doesn't mean he owns me." And now we have overtime pay and the world is a better place. Don't be that guy who tried to stop people from getting overtime pay.
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Contract includes wording that requires fighters to do promotion. It's not overtime its in his contract.
 
Ingjr said:
So now honoring your contract obligations is overtime? Wow. I think he's made enough unearned money for a lifetime. What burns my ass is he'll still be making more than Nate (if they fight) after getting his ass handed to him.
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Conor earned his fame. Nate's just piggybacking off his fame. No one was talking about him until he beat Mcgregor.
 
This is pretty spot on.

People are going to argue about what is "right", and contracts, and all that bullshit. I feel like those people have minimum exposure to how the real world actually works.

If you feel a company isn't paying you your value, you put in your two weeks an quit. Go get another job.

The UFC prevents that with their contracts. Except they reserve the right to cut someone. Which gives them the advantage in these exchanges. The UFC is hardly the right organization to be sticking up for when it comes to "correct" business practices (I MEAN, FUCKING LOL).

Conor knows his value is too great for the UFC to do much about this, other than pull him from the card. It's why he's playing this game.

Good on Conor, fuck the UFC and their bullshit business practices.
 
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BHR said:
dudes lucky hes in the ufc let alone still holding the 145 belt i cant wait till this ufc 200 stuff is done and he has to defend the 45 belt against frankie hopely dana keeps his word and that fight happens before ufc NY at ufc 201 or 202

he got this far by selling his soul and putting on this act his fighting skills are sub par any real mma fan can see this

"He’s also jumped in and pulled the UFC’s ass from the fire multiple times, taking on last-second fights against top fighters"

LOL he took last second fights two times against hand picked opponents that he picked himself one was 5'5 walk around weight of 160 chad mini mendes and the other was cabo diaz who spanked him
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Yes, yes let the hate flow throw you
 
zerofux said:
You're wrong. GSP has a contract right now. They're trying to change it so he'll come out of retirement. If Conor holds out, they'll do the same thing for him. They need stars. Ronda and Conor have been responsible for over 7 million PPV buys in the last year. It simply doesn't make business sense to lose half of that to make a point.
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Conor RENEGOTIATED his contract right after Aldo fight.

But it is not this contract I am talking about. I am talking about the FIGHT contract he signed to rematch Diaz.

He can renegotiate his contract. but until a new one is in place, he has to abide by what he signed.

The same way he cannot fight for Bellator if he feels like, unless he can get out of his contract.
 
wtf????????????

this is a co-promoted duckjob between MCG and the UFC

what are you talking about???????
 
DaveHilly said:
Contract includes wording that requires fighters to do promotion. It's not overtime its in his contract.
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In the Promotional and Publicity section of contracts I've personally signed, it states...

"Artist shall render all services if required by company, as, where and when reasonably required by company, in connection with publicity and promotion of the picture..."

I'm just a lowly screenwriter and I have the ability to question what is reasonable or not when it comes to press obligations. The WGA also has an entire set of standards related to this. I have to be notified a certain amount of time in advance, I have the opportunity to provide the company with an itinarary of prior engagements, etc. And my contracts are standard, small potatoes, contracts. Conor had a team of lawyers work his huge contract out. The Promotional and Publicity section of his contract is probably five pages long.

None of you have any idea what's in his contract and the more you talk, the more obvious is that you've never dealt with this stuff and you're taking everything Dana says as gospel.
 
Enders said:
Except being flown around on a private jet and sitting in at pressers making millions and millions of dollars could not be further from a 12 hour minimum wage job shift.
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That 12 hour minimum wage shift job likely doesn't produce over 400million a year for the company either. If your going to compare the work, compare the result aswell.....
 
zerofux said:
In the Promotional and Publicity section of contracts I've personally signed, it states...

"Artist shall render all services if required by company, as, where and when reasonably required by company, in connection with publicity and promotion of the picture..."

I'm just a lowly screenwriter and I have the ability to question what is reasonable or not when it comes to press obligations. The WGA also has an entire set of standards related to this. I have to be notified a certain amount of time in advance, I have the opportunity to provide the company with an itinarary of prior engagements, etc. And my contracts are standard, small potatoes, contracts. Conor had a team of lawyers work his huge contract out. The Promotional and Publicity section of his contract is probably five pages long.

None of you have any idea what's in his contract and the more you talk, the more obvious is that you've never dealt with this stuff and you're taking everything Dana says as gospel.
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zerofux said:
In the Promotional and Publicity section of contracts I've personally signed, it states...

"Artist shall render all services if required by company, as, where and when reasonably required by company, in connection with publicity and promotion of the picture..."

I'm just a lowly screenwriter and I have the ability to question what is reasonable or not when it comes to press obligations. The WGA also has an entire set of standards related to this. I have to be notified a certain amount of time in advance, I have the opportunity to provide the company with an itinarary of prior engagements, etc. And my contracts are standard, small potatoes, contracts. Conor had a team of lawyers work his huge contract out. The Promotional and Publicity section of his contract is probably five pages long.

None of you have any idea what's in his contract and the more you talk, the more obvious is that you've never dealt with this stuff and you're taking everything Dana says as gospel.
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When has Dana and company ever not been on point about fighters contracts?
 
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