News On the Day of His Retirement Jon Jones Charged with Fleeing the Scene of an Accident in Albuquerque, NM (Update W/ Cam Footage).

[jsbx45]

Are you intentionally overlooking the part where beating up Tom does absolutely nothing for his legacy and it wouldn’t help the UFC either. If he won then retires it’s a much worse scenario for the UFC or did you overlook that part? Tom is just rightful Number 1 challenger in a piss poor division. He isn’t some dude with a legacy or that cleaned out the division. Since it’s simple as why overlook the simple facts? In your head he’s old and slow and doesn’t want to lose. Even if true not a soul on earth in his shoes would want that fight especially if you already had the belt. Probably not even the fight he would get hyped over. Jones doesn’t owe anyone a damn thing. Defend or retire and he chose retire. Simple as

Took his sweet ducking fucking time didn't he? Should have vacated 6 months ago, but not Jon, oh no. It's going to be all about him for as long as possible. I'm not a big fan of Stephen A., but I agree with him on this one.

Quack!

 

[CatchtheseHands]

Another thinley veiled JJ glaze thread. Literally nothing is different now with JJ retired, NOTHING. The guy was already basically retired. 2 fights in 5 years. Yea he was really carrying the company being a "star".

Also where did you get the idea Poatan has 1 fight left in him?

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

1) Number of Instagram followers doesn't equal PPV drawing power
2) Jones himself was a disappointing PPV draw considering his potential. He never cracked a million buys EVER and he's barely fought in the last 5 years anyway
3) Khamzat has absolutely not proven to be a PPV draw and if you're relying on him to be a star, better hire a roster of back-ups... the guy is completely unreliable for showing up.
4) The UFC has been devoid of stars for YEARS anyway. This is their goal; they don't want to pay fighters substantial money and they don't want to be held hostage by big names so they rely on the UFC brand itself to be the draw.

While I agree in theory that they should be classified as being in a slum period, people inexplicably watch these AWFUL Apex cards and attend live events that even Helen Keller would be embarassed to be at but they continue to make money because their costs are low. This is what happens when there's a monopoly... high prices, low quality products, and an exploited workforce.

A gif of Miggs for everyone's enjoyment

 

[Deleted member 517683]

For casuals IG numbers are relevant.

For real mma fans there are only the accomplishments in the cage who makes them stars.

 

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[Killer Kadoogan]

there are many slices of takes. we are the OGs. our takes reign supreme. then there are noob takes, there's personalty takes, there's fake fairweather takes, steph a. smith has a take, because he's told to. he knows jack shit.

 

[octagonation]

1) Number of Instagram followers doesn't equal PPV drawing power
2) Jones himself was a disappointing PPV draw considering his potential. He never cracked a million buys EVER and he's barely fought in the last 5 years anyway
3) Khamzat has absolutely not proven to be a PPV draw and if you're relying on him to be a star, better hire a roster of back-ups... the guy is completely unreliable for showing up.
4) The UFC has been devoid of stars for YEARS anyway. This is their goal; they don't want to pay fighters substantial money and they don't want to be held hostage by big names so they rely on the UFC brand itself to be the draw.

While I agree in theory that they should be classified as being in a slum period, people inexplicably watch these AWFUL Apex cards and attend live events that even Helen Keller would be embarassed to be at so they continue to make money because their costs are low. This is what happens when there's a monopoly... high prices, low quality products, and an exploited workforce.

A gif of Miggs for everyone's enjoyment

The UFC doesn´t care about PPV´s anymore but rather JUST stars and social media stars who have followers this is the metric it means more eye balls in any shape of way and more social media traffic.

The UFC is not a PPV model anymore

 

[mogul]

Jones was never a star

His PPV buys were just above average for the UFC

 

[Gamer007]

It's important to remember Conor was so ridiculously popular he made Khabib into a household name. Which in turn made Islam relevant due to his relationship with Khabib. Before Conor, Khabib was doing 300k buys. Hell the reason he became even a tiny bit mainstream is because of his performance at UFC 205 against MJ, because everyone tuned in to watch Conor.

Everyone has eaten off of Conor the last decade, and in turn its overrated the value of a lot of these "stars" today, when none of them can actually sell PPV.


There isn't another real star coming for a very long time. The best hope is Ilia working out, he can build a resume fighting older legends I guess.

Aspinall is great but there's a reason no UFC HW has ever defended the title for a long period, it's just not probable.


One of the big issues the UFC has and will have moving forward, is that the older high profile fighters aren't fighting till the wheels come off as much anymore (Jones, Dustin, Islam, Khabib, GSP). They don't stay long enough to help prop up the next big star, in turn forcing the UFC to organically build stars, which they've not been able to do.


Anderson stayed around and helped give Izzy and DC big fights. Volk gave Ilia a fight (when there was no reason to fight so soon after a KO loss). But that's happening less and less, fighters realize the UFC isn't going to look out or take care of them now. There's a reason the NBA & NFL want legends like Tom Brady and Michael Jordan around. You need to include your real stars into the broadcast, if only slightly. There's no reason Anderson Silva & GSP shouldn't get free tickets to any UFC event with a flat payout just for showing up. The next generation of fighters need these guys around, it's a travesty that Mighty Mouse, GSP, Francis, and Anderson have had bad relations with the UFC.



The real question is how much longer the UFC can continue to be propped up by broadcasting deals? I think all of us know it's a dark age, but we're being told things have never been better.

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

The UFC doesn´t care about PPV´s anymore but rather JUST stars and social media stars who have followers this is the metric it means more eye balls in any shape of way and more social media traffic.

The UFC is not a PPV model anymore

And you're basing this on... what exactly? Figures you pulled out of your ass?? Oh wait... you don't even have figures lol that's really lazy then! Troll on buddy, my apologies for taking this thread serious for a second

 

[Jeffery09]

And you're basing this on... what exactly? Figures you pulled out of your ass?? Oh wait... you don't even have figures lol that's really lazy then! Troll on buddy, my apologies for taking this thread serious for a second

I don´t want to intervene but the UFC is not based on PPV model for a long time no. They rather want someone with more global appeal it fits their profile more for sponsorships and stuff like that but they are not based on PPV model and it has been like that for a long time now

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

I don´t want to intervene but the UFC is not based on PPV model for a long time no. They rather want world stars it fits there profile more for sponsorships and stuff like that but they are not based on PPV model and it has been for a long time now

Found your other account LOL

 

[octagonation]

It's important to remember Conor was so ridiculously popular he made Khabib into a household name. Which in turn made Islam relevant due to his relationship with Khabib. Before Conor, Khabib was doing 300k buys. Hell the reason he became even a tiny bit mainstream is because of his performance at UFC 205 against MJ, because everyone tuned in to watch Conor.

Everyone has eaten off of Conor the last decade, and in turn its overrated the value of a lot of these "stars" today, when none of them can actually sell PPV.


There isn't another real star coming for a very long time. The best hope is Ilia working out, he can build a resume fighting older legends I guess.

Aspinall is great but there's a reason no UFC HW has ever defended the title for a long period, it's just not probable.


One of the big issues the UFC has and will have moving forward, is that the older high profile fighters aren't fighting till the wheels come off as much anymore (Jones, Dustin, Islam, Khabib, GSP). They don't stay long enough to help prop up the next big star, in turn forcing the UFC to organically build stars, which they've not been able to do.


Anderson stayed around and helped give Izzy and DC big fights. Volk gave Ilia a fight (when there was no reason to fight so soon after a KO loss). But that's happening less and less, fighters realize the UFC isn't going to look out or take care of them now. There's a reason the NBA & NFL want legends like Tom Brady and Michael Jordan around. You need to include your real stars into the broadcast, if only slightly. There's no reason Anderson Silva & GSP shouldn't get free tickets to any UFC event with a flat payout just for showing up. The next generation of fighters need these guys around, it's a travesty that Mighty Mouse, GSP, Francis, and Anderson have had bad relations with the UFC.



The real question is how much longer the UFC can continue to be propped up by broadcasting deals? I think all of us know it's a dark age, but we're being told things have never been better.

Conor is a bit overrated imho even after he retired. Conor was a bum who made stars in Nate and Khabib but it was not due to his shine but it was due to the trashing leading upto the fighters because at that point in time Conor had attracted a legion of loyal haters because he was shxt talking everytime that moves with 2, 3 or 4 legs even calling out god..

Conor got himself a significiant haters which benefit them and whomever beat conor was getting fans because people disliked Conor.

But stars such as Adesanya, Chimaev and Topuria didn´t need Conor nor did Poaten

 

[octagonation]

And you're basing this on... what exactly? Figures you pulled out of your ass?? Oh wait... you don't even have figures lol that's really lazy then! Troll on buddy, my apologies for taking this thread serious for a second

wait what? You come with PPV sells which is not relevant and it is not even reported anymore. The UFC makes money elsewhere

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

I was tempted to start a "Predict Jones' Next Crime" thread but wasn't sure if it would get removed or not. Betting odds:

- DUI related offense: -300
- DUI with possession of drugs parlay: -180
- Assault/battery charge: -200
- Assault of a police officer: +200
- No arrests in the next 2 years: +10000

 

[octagonation]

I was tempted to start a "Predict Jones' Next Crime" thread but wasn't sure if it would get removed or not. Betting odds:

- DUI related offense: -300
- DUI with possession of drugs parlay: -180
- Assault/battery charge: -200
- Assault of a police officer: +200
- No arrests in the next 2 years: +10000

Oh Wow. My thread got dumped here it seems like the Mods have had enough of this guy..

The most likely is Assault-Battery charge as his haters will approach him and confront him
< I think this the favorite as someone will definitely get up inside Jones nose and provoke him

 

[Koya]

Nothing was more awkward than when they brought her into the cage after they got back together...

She looked like an hostage

 

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