Media Oliveira open to the idea of an interim title fight vs. Gaethje if Islam wants to move up to 170

[maximus__]

Islam was on an impressive winning streak. If he didn't deserve a title shot then neither did Charles for beating the ghost of Tony or Chandler for being a Bellator veteran.

On one hand Charles was calling for a Connor fight and on the other he wanted Islam to fight other guys. The irony was amusing. It was only when Rogan had a quiet word with Dana did common sense prevail.

Leading to the rematch, Charles was at it again. First he said he won't be ready until November then he accepted the fight. Perhaps he got a better offer but regardless, many remained skeptical and rightly so. Charles isn't the champ and there should be repercussions for pulling out so near a major event.

The ghost of Tony? He was one fight removed from the same streak as Islam with actual quality ranked wins,ex LW champions and an interim belt. Chandler got his shot off beating Islams best win in a dominant 1st round finish. When you discredit these guys you discredit Islam and prove the point. It's almost like you forget the only reason we got Charles vs Chandler was because Khabib had just beaten DP and Gaethje within the proceeding 12 months and they had no wins since then.

If Conor got past DP he would have gotten the shot. I don't agree with it, but saying Charles was avoiding Islam at that time is just stupid. He still had some value as a previous champ at that point.

Islam didn't have a real claim to the shot at that time. He had one active year his entire UFC career (2021) and went from number 14 to top 5 with 1 top 10 win. The guy looks amazing with the belt now and is impressive, but that's off a fight against a guy who apparently ducked him in Charles and the 2 Volk wins.

He got a massive cut in the last round before he went out to Abu dhabi. Do you think he was out the back banging his head against a wall just to duck Islam? It's a contact sport where injuries happen.

 

[Prologue]

Good question. If Gaethje does not defend the BMF belt next, they should book Poirer and Chandler to fight for the Interim BMF belt.

I imagine this is a joke, but at the same time, would not be surprised if the UFC did an interim BMF.

 

[maximus__]

Mods deleting posts without sending alerts now? How cool. Imagine what they do while search function is gone forever and we can't search any posts anymore... Sherdog Sherdogging. So, bullying is just for favourite guys here, even if you don't use bad words like I did... Same thing in Abu Dhubious for favorite fighters is a mere coincidence.

Let's be more transparent and honest with Sherdoggers, please. Not too much to ask, I suppose.

They never send alerts and haven't for ages?

 

[Sincere Guy]

They never send alerts and haven't for ages?

Yes, they send. "Your post was deleted... Reason" or something like that. I received notifications not far away from now. This is on purpose, I know how things work.

 

[StonedLemur]

Yup. 155 needs to sort itself out a bit. im not totally interested in any of the lw guys against islam since we since them against a lesser version (khabib)

Justin is just coming off 2 fantastic wins, and to say Khabib is a lesser version is just silly.

Also you can't say because you seen Khabib beat a guy, that same guy will lose to Islam.
If that was the case you could say, well Sean Strickland beat Izzy so Sean doesn't have to fight anyone that Izzy beat.

 

[maximus__]

Charles was on Ariel's show just now and he said that an interim fight with Gaethje is just one of the many possibilities that can play out IF Islam decides to move up to WW.
He said he'll be ready to fight in January and expects to fight Islam, as he sees himself as the rightful #1 contender.

/thread

So exactly like the recent interview where he apparently called out Conor and was ducking ISlam?

He talks the entire interview about wanting the title shot and fight vs ISlam once he heals up and says he would take a Conor fight if offerred also before or after depending on how things go...

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!

 

[maximus__]

Yes, they send. "Your post was deleted... Reason" or something like that. I received notifications not far away from now. This is on purpose, I know how things work.

I have had posts deleted with no notifications in back and forths with people with no notification as recent as 12 months ago. I just assumed it was the new Sherdog system as I never had them before. Haha how many times have you had posts removed to know that...

 

[markg171]

Islam always fights in October and February so if they're making an interim LW title in February it's because Islam is moving divisions in February

 

[El Fernas]

Am i missing something? Why? Not totally hating on the title out of nowhere fight, but why? Champion just fought less than a week ago, came out probably in better shape than what he was 24hrs before...why?

 

[maximus__]

Can someone refresh my memory? How many top five (or top ten) LW opponents has he fought? Charles and who else?

Dan Hooker at 6 at the time and now 11, Bobby Green unranked and now 10 both on short notice.
You could count a debuting Armen technically in a back and forth fight in the grappling department.

So he has fought 4 of the top 15 his entire career.

There is a lot of work at LW IMO. Even if he won the WW belt his resume is pretty lacking.

 

[Sincere Guy]

I have had posts deleted with no notifications in back and forths with people with no notification as recent as 12 months ago. I just assumed it was the new Sherdog system as I never had them before. Haha how many times have you had posts removed to know that...

Only when I bother some IVlam's fanatics, funny thing?! They can and I can't, the irony lol. At least the butthurt is priceless, deleting a post like that just shows the true colors and nothing more. To each their own I guess. Sherdog, also "the place of happiness"... only for some. I'm not included, of course.

 

[Rektkid]

The ghost of Tony? He was one fight removed from the same streak as Islam with actual quality ranked wins,ex LW champions and an interim belt. Chandler got his shot off beating Islams best win in a dominant 1st round finish. When you discredit these guys you discredit Islam and prove the point. It's almost like you forget the only reason we got Charles vs Chandler was because Khabib had just beaten DP and Gaethje within the proceeding 12 months and they had no wins since then.

If Conor got past DP he would have gotten the shot. I don't agree with it, but saying Charles was avoiding Islam at that time is just stupid. He still had some value as a previous champ at that point.

Islam didn't have a real claim to the shot at that time. He had one active year his entire UFC career (2021) and went from number 14 to top 5 with 1 top 10 win. The guy looks amazing with the belt now and is impressive, but that's off a fight against a guy who apparently ducked him in Charles and the 2 Volk wins.

He got a massive cut in the last round before he went out to Abu dhabi. Do you think he was out the back banging his head against a wall just to duck Islam? It's a contact sport where injuries happen.

Absolutely the ghost of Tony and hindsight proves it. Every man and his dog knows Tony has not been the same since the Gaethje fight.

It doesn't discredit anyone, Khabib said as much before fighting Gaethje that Tony will NEVER be the same after the beating he took and guess what, he was right!

Your cool with Chandler getting a title shot by beating Hooker but Islam beating Hooker and mustering a 10 fight win streak doesn't deserve one. You guys can't even hide your bias lol.

Charles was calling for a Connor "money fight" after he got his ass handed to him by DP, not before. He was cool with Connor getting a title shot based on "losing" but guys like Islam who had put together an iimpressive run hadn't done enough in his mind. I was cool if Beneil got a shot BUT he was the one who pulled out against Islam, so by default, Islam jumped ahead.

"He got a massive cut in the last round before going to Abu Dhabi?" Who gives a damn? He pulled out, we can't cut him some slack and have a go at Islam when he pulled out many moons ago. That exposes your double standards.

 

[checktheknuckles]

I love Charles and would want him to fight Islam but i rather see Justin fight Islam than this

Justin ain't done anything to deserve a title shot over Charles.

 

[Deleted member 504083]

If this happens then Islam must be eyeing 170 belt

I'd prefer he defend vs Justin or Charles first

Charles really had nothing for Islam, and Gaethje will look even worse.

At least Colby/Leon have a bit more size to possibly make up for the gap in skill.

 

[DrawK]

Interim what? Just make it a fucking #1 contender match. Got a mf with a fake belt fighting for a fake belt with an untouched champ chillin in the background.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

Charles really had nothing for Islam, and Gaethje will look even worse.

At least Colby/Leon have a bit more size to make up for the gap in skill.

Agreed, but he needs to beat the title defence record at 155

He can fight twice this year and if he wins? Then he will have 4 and can challenge for the 170 next year

 

[chinarice]

Well this makes no sense

 

[don't ask]

Dan Hooker at 6 at the time and now 11, Bobby Green unranked and now 10 both on short notice.
You could count a debuting Armen technically in a back and forth fight in the grappling department.

So he has fought 4 of the top 15 his entire career.

There is a lot of work at LW IMO. Even if he won the WW belt his resume is pretty lacking.

That is a dismal resuma compared to the amount of hype he's getting.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

Mods deleting posts without sending alerts now? How cool. Imagine what they do while search function is gone forever and we can't search any posts anymore... Sherdog Sherdogging. So, bullying is just for favourite guys here, even if you don't use bad words like I did... Same thing in Abu Dhubious for favorite fighters is a mere coincidence.

Let's be more transparent and honest with Sherdoggers, please. Not too much to ask, I suppose.

You are the one doing the bullying

 

[Dana's Moonface]

Only when I bother some IVlam's fanatics, funny thing?! They can and I can't, the irony lol. At least the butthurt is priceless, deleting a post like that just shows the true colors and nothing more. To each their own I guess. Sherdog, also "the place of happiness"... only for some. I'm not included, of course.

I have had posts deleted, so stop talking shit and go get some help

The MODS do a great job on here. They aren't perfect, but imo they are mostly a good bunch