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Is there no official Avowed thread? The game releases 2/17 on PlayStation. Not going to buy it at launch but maybe during a time when there’s not much else out I’ll pick up on discount. For those who played did you enjoy it?
It's pretty mid. It gives off a good first impression, as the combat feels good(I think it's the best first person combat of these types of games. They really nailed that aspect) and the graphics can be really good at times, as the world has some great environments. Dialogue and choices are not so bad either. However, it runs out of tricks fairly early and you start to notice it's shortcomings, like repeating side mission types, and a general "meh" feeling to it all. Once you get to the second zone, you've basically seen all it has to offer, and then start to notice how dumb some things are, like it's absolutely retarded gear upgrade system, that will leave you scratching your head as to why your fancy new mace or wand isn't doing much of anything to make you feel like you're finding new gear. That aspect alone, is one of it's biggest downfalls.

If you're gonna dive in, I suggest you get acquainted with it's rather stupid gear system beforehand. Otherwise, it'll hit you out of nowhere, and the game will seem needlessly difficult, because every enemy will start to feel like a sponge.

Worth a look, though.
 
I'll look into it. Not familiar with it
Theres a yuge thread on it. It's the most gigachad alpha game you'll ever play.

 
I'll look into it. Not familiar with it
Theres a yuge thread on it. It's the most gigachad alpha game you'll ever play.


I don't play the games, but anyone who is into Warhammer and gigachads that hasn't seen the short "Warhammer 40,000: And They Shall Know No Fear" from the Amazon Prime series Secret Level (by the same studio that did Love, Death, Robots) is missing out huuuuuuuugely. It's incredible.
IMDB > Warhammer 40,000: And They Shall Know No Fear (8.7)
 
AMD CEO Lisa Su has said that the next Xbox should be launching next year


Moores Law is Dead started sharing some stuff on it back in July / August along with the AMD leaker Kepler_L2

Neither AMD nor Microsoft have confirmed a release window up to this point, but rumors have pointed toward a 2027 for the past several months. In August 2025, leaker Moore's Law is Dead suggested the next-gen APU, reportedly codenamed "Magnus," would leverage Zen 6 and Zen 6c CPU cores, along with an RDNA 5-powered GPU.
 
AMD CEO Lisa Su has said that the next Xbox should be launching next year


Moores Law is Dead started sharing some stuff on it back in July / August along with the AMD leaker Kepler_L2

From what I've seen via internet rumor...

The next Xbox will be able to play the entire catalog of every Xbox game across all generations of the console.



Take this with a Gibraltar sized grain of salt.
 
From what I've seen via internet rumor...

The next Xbox will be able to play the entire catalog of every Xbox game across all generations of the console.



Take this with a Gibraltar sized grain of salt.

Sounds neat but I’ll believe it when I see it. If anything it will likely be cloud streaming of those games, not the ability to just throw in a disc of any classic Xbox game.
 
From what I've seen via internet rumor...

The next Xbox will be able to play the entire catalog of every Xbox game across all generations of the console.



Take this with a Gibraltar sized grain of salt.

It's all pretty much been leaked at this point. It's going to be a very powerful high-end PC. Similar to what the Xbox Ally X is doing with the full screen mode. You'll be able to use Steam and the chip AMD is creating will allowing them to play Xbox games. This last part about playing old Xbox games is what people are a little unsure about because of the licensing issues.

One thing is for sure though they are expecting it to cost well over $1000. Kepler who leaks almost everything from AMD says this device a lone will cost Microsoft $1200. Since Microsoft no longer wants to subsidize consoles and can't because you'll be able to install and use Steam your probably looking at paying $1300 minimum for this. It seems MS no longer really wants to compete in the hardware space anymore and they are just trying to give their dedicated users a place to go.

My main concern for any Xbox user would be the full screen experience. It's not in a stable place right now and I don't know if they can get it ready in time. Microsoft already has all hands on deck when it comes to the general issues they are having with Windows 11 as is. So I wonder how many of their engineers can they really dedicate to implementing this full screen console like experience? Not to mention getting it to work with other stores that have their own updates and things that can break the implementation at anytime. I personally got away from PC gaming because I can't stand the random issues and just want plug and play.
 
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Sounds neat but I’ll believe it when I see it. If anything it will likely be cloud streaming of those games, not the ability to just throw in a disc of any classic Xbox game.
Definitely, although they may have something similar to the Xbone, where if you put in your old disc it will recognize the license and give you access to the digital version. That's pretty much how BC has worked since 8th gen.

That all said, it seems a little soon for a whole new console. I don't even know why they would bother, considering how badly they're getting their asses kicked in the market and how overpriced their current consoles are. I would focus on the cloud if I was them, and get into deals with television companies that will just stream the games from the TV, instead of wasting money developing an inferior PC that will get destroyed from every angle. I mean, unless they got some secret deal with Rockstar for exclusive rights to GTA VI, they're kind of fucked.
 
Definitely, although they may have something similar to the Xbone, where if you put in your old disc it will recognize the license and give you access to the digital version. That's pretty much how BC has worked since 8th gen.

That all said, it seems a little soon for a whole new console. I don't even know why they would bother, considering how badly they're getting their asses kicked in the market and how overpriced their current consoles are. I would focus on the cloud if I was them, and get into deals with television companies that will just stream the games from the TV, instead of wasting money developing an inferior PC that will get destroyed from every angle. I mean, unless they got some secret deal with Rockstar for exclusive rights to GTA VI, they're kind of fucked.
They are in a very weird position. They had so many games in the PS top 10 selling games and yet their last quarterly report the Xbox division performed below expectations. I'm not sure what the answer for them is. I thought releasing games on all platforms would help but it doesn't seem to be helping much at all. The market is flooded with so many good games right now that it's just very hard to compete in that space.

PS isn't really releasing much this gen compared to last gen and honestly it might have worked out better for them. Competing for peoples time with good games in a market that's flooded with good games is tough. Sitting back and just collecting 30% from someone else's work is much much easier and cheaper to do. COD sales poorly but PS makes up for that by collecting money from Battlefield and Arc Raiders. Being a platform holder in this environment right now is just the best possible position for these companies.
 
They are in a very weird position. They had so many games in the PS top 10 selling games and yet their last quarterly report the Xbox division performed below expectations. I'm not sure what the answer for them is. I thought releasing games on all platforms would help but it doesn't seem to be helping much at all. The market is flooded with so many good games right now that it's just very hard to compete in that space.

PS isn't really releasing much this gen compared to last gen and honestly it might have worked out better for them. Competing for peoples time with good games in a market that's flooded with good games is tough. Sitting back and just collecting 30% from someone else's work is much much easier and cheaper to do. COD sales poorly but PS makes up for that by collecting money from Battlefield and Arc Raiders. Being a platform holder in this environment right now is just the best possible position for these companies.
It's compensating.

Overall gaming revenue for Microsoft was down 9% YoY when hardware sales were down 32%. Nobody needs an Xbox, anymore, so nobody should be surprised. Software has to make up the deficit. Most of their revenue was from software & subscriptions before, anyway, but that's down 5%. I have a suggestion. How about not doubling the fucking price of Game Pass?

Although they specifically highlighted first party games sucking compared to a strong 2024, not multiplat or Game Pass woes. Besides, Sony was down 4% in the quarter, too. These are hardly devastating figures. Just a weaker quarter this year. Nintendo probably would have lagged too if it wasn't for the launch of the Switch 2.
 
It's compensating.

Overall gaming revenue for Microsoft was down 9% YoY when hardware sales were down 32%. Nobody needs an Xbox, anymore, so nobody should be surprised. Software has to make up the deficit. Most of their revenue was from software & subscriptions before, anyway, but that's down 5%. I have a suggestion. How about not doubling the fucking price of Game Pass?

Although they specifically highlighted first party games sucking compared to a strong 2024, not multiplat or Game Pass woes. Besides, Sony was down 4% in the quarter, too. These are hardly devastating figures. Just a weaker quarter this year. Nintendo probably would have lagged too if it wasn't for the launch of the Switch 2.
I don't think Microsoft had a choice to but to raise the price. Apparently the 30% profit margin being placed on them is not a rumor anymore and was confirmed by one of the developers at obsidian. Xbox also expects gamepass to rise next quarter so I'm not sure how much it's hurt them really. I think the main issue was Outer world 2 under performed (this was confirmed by the dev) and so did COD. I can imagine Ninja Gaiden did as well but we don't have any confirmation on that.

COD is a massive game and in 2020 is was reported that it cost 700 million to make world at war. I can only imagine it cost close to a billion now to make each game. With GTA 6 dropping this year I'm not sure it will do any better but maybe people just looking for an FPS game will be enough to get it back on track.

As far as Sony they did drop 4% but their operating income jumped 19% which is the more important number as it shows the overall health of a division. This was one of the key metrics the CEO wanted to improve when he took over. Sony was in the single digits when he took over. Xbox unfortunately will never give us these sort of numbers as I'd love to see what their opeating income looks like.
 
I don't think Microsoft had a choice to but to raise the price. Apparently the 30% profit margin being placed on them is not a rumor anymore and was confirmed by one of the developers at obsidian. Xbox also expects gamepass to rise next quarter so I'm not sure how much it's hurt them really. I think the main issue was Outer world 2 under performed (this was confirmed by the dev) and so did COD. I can imagine Ninja Gaiden did as well but we don't have any confirmation on that.
Of course they had a choice. Don't be braindead.
COD is a massive game and in 2020 is was reported that it cost 700 million to make world at war. I can only imagine it cost close to a billion now to make each game. With GTA 6 dropping this year I'm not sure it will do any better but maybe people just looking for an FPS game will be enough to get it back on track.

As far as Sony they did drop 4% but their operating income jumped 19% which is the more important number as it shows the overall health of a division. This was one of the key metrics the CEO wanted to improve when he took over. Sony was in the single digits when he took over. Xbox unfortunately will never give us these sort of numbers as I'd love to see what their opeating income looks like.
Why are you talking about operating income? That's irrelevant. If you mention a decline in Xbox revenue, then observing a decline in Sony revenue at the same time is the only context that matters. Both declined. Just a weak quarter for gaming revenue.
 
Of course they had a choice. Don't be braindead.

Why are you talking about operating income? That's irrelevant. If you mention a decline in Xbox revenue, then observing a decline in Sony revenue at the same time is the only context that matters. Both declined. Just a weak quarter for gaming revenue.

It's not being brain dead which is why I said "I don't think" because I legitimately don't know if they had any other choice. I don't run the company or know what's going on there and what other options they had.

I mentioned operating income because Sony provides the information and it gives you a deeper look into a divisions overall health. Xbox doesn't provide that information so it can't be used. Operating income doesn't become irrelevant simply because Xbox never wants to provide that information. There's a reason the CFO came in and said he wants the operating income to increase because it's an important number when discussing the health of a company.

I'm not here to do a 1:1 comparison and never claimed to be doing that. It's not possible to do that between Xbox and Playstation because they aren't providing the same level of detail between each division. All I can do is discuss each division with the numbers they provide and that will never be a 1:1 comparison.
 
It's not being brain dead which is why I said "I don't think" because I legitimately don't know if they had any other choice. I don't run the company or know what's going on there and what other options they had.
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Stop. You try to play this "I don't know if they can" spiel immediately after parroting the gossip about targeting a 30% profit margin: an elective strategy. The gaming division alone generated $6bn in revenue for the quarter. It's part of a much more massive company that made a profit of $129 billion last year, and has a market cap of approximately 3 freaking trillion dollars.

Of course they have a choice! Nobody has a gun to their head, "Hey, you better be greedy assholes, or I'll pull this trigger, cocksuckers!!!"
 
It's not being brain dead which is why I said "I don't think" because I legitimately don't know if they had any other choice. I don't run the company or know what's going on there and what other options they had.

I mentioned operating income because Sony provides the information and it gives you a deeper look into a divisions overall health. Xbox doesn't provide that information so it can't be used. Operating income doesn't become irrelevant simply because Xbox never wants to provide that information. There's a reason the CFO came in and said he wants the operating income to increase because it's an important number when discussing the health of a company.

I'm not here to do a 1:1 comparison and never claimed to be doing that. It's not possible to do that between Xbox and Playstation because they aren't providing the same level of detail between each division. All I can do is discuss each division with the numbers they provide and that will never be a 1:1 comparison.
To put it more clearly, it's not that Xbox has to justify its operating at a profit, it's that it has to justify offering comparable margins to other Microsoft segments. Otherwise, the opportunity cost doesn't make much sense for Microsoft.
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Stop. You try to play this "I don't know if they can" spiel immediately after parroting the gossip about targeting a 30% profit margin: an elective strategy. The gaming division alone generated $6bn in revenue for the quarter. It's part of a much more massive company that made a profit of $129 billion last year, and has a market cap of approximately 3 freaking trillion dollars.

Of course they have a choice! Nobody has a gun to their head, "Hey, you better be greedy assholes, or I'll pull this trigger, cocksuckers!!!"
The 30% margin is absurd and unrealistic, but that's what needed when you have to justify spending money not on AI and other higher margin businesses. For a similar sized Microsoft segment, look at Linkedin, which has an even higher operating margin and good growth on top of that.
 
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