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[avenue94]

Because one thing I sure as hell never believed in was dissolving exclusivity completely to where you put your games on competing consoles. PC & mobile, okay, but the other consoles? What's the point of your console, then? You're accepting a demotion to software developer. You're neither a hardware product with a unique identity nor managing a software-controlling marketplace. You're just a developer.

That's why I've said Game Pass doesn't make sense either. Subscriptions require massive scale and cannibalize revenue otherwise. Going multiplatform is the only way to make any of this work, and Microsoft hates being a hardware company already.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Because one thing I sure as hell never believed in was dissolving exclusivity completely to where you put your games on competing consoles.

Article i posted a few pages back Spencer directly talked about why its been so slow. Its been his main goal since becoming CEO. Took years for him to convince those above and below him that this was a viable strategy moving forward. Where implementation has been incremental when prior stated goals are met, existing contracts expired and corporate bridges rebuilt.

 

[method115]

Article i posted a few pages back Spencer directly talked about why its been so slow. Its been his main goal since becoming CEO. Took years for him to convince those above and below him that this was a viable strategy moving forward. Where implementation has been incremental when prior stated goals are met, existing contracts expired and corporate bridges rebuilt.

I don't know what article you posted and I wont even bother reading it. MS is the king of PR and will say whatever is best for them and their company. Which I would expect out of a company this size. The idea that this has been his main goal since becoming CEO is just 100% false.



There are also leaked emails from the FTC trial where Spencer specifically said all Bethesda games would be exclusive to Xbox. It was Phils decision to do this. They even said in the communication that they can't tell the public that because they were afraid of the backlash from fans.

 

[Madmick]

Article i posted a few pages back Spencer directly talked about why its been so slow. Its been his main goal since becoming CEO. Took years for him to convince those above and below him that this was a viable strategy moving forward. Where implementation has been incremental when prior stated goals are met, existing contracts expired and corporate bridges rebuilt.

It's been his strategy for the Xbox's latest generation of hardware to be outsold by nearly 5-to-2 by the PS5, and to remain a distant third in sales to the Nintendo Switch through the 2020's despite that the Switch released over three years earlier? It's been his plan for not a single console exclusive Xbox game to rank in the best selling 10 games in the USA (Xbox's stronghold) for 2021, 2022, 2023, or 2024 while Playstation/Nintendo games routinely do despite that software sales are the source of the bulk of the company's net profit in video games?

Game Pass subscriptions are respectable, but not nearly strong enough to offset these bleak, bottom-line performance metrics that power those subscriptions. I swear, sometimes I think I've seen you post the dumbest shit a person could post, it couldn't be dumber...then you write something like this.

Overall, the reported revenue numbers suggest that sales of the Xbox Series X/S line peaked sometime in 2022, during the console's second full year on store shelves. That's extremely rare for a market where sales for successful console hardware usually see a peak in the fourth or fifth year on the market before a slow decline in the run-up to a successor.

Oh, look, the forum clown reads this chart, then shows up to delusionalsplain to the rest of us...

 

[KaNesDeath]

I don't know what article you posted and I wont even bother reading it. MS is the king of PR and will say whatever is best for them and their company. Which I would expect out of a company this size. The idea that this has been his main goal since becoming CEO is just 100% false.

He's alluded to it periodically after he became CEO. But flat out stated this is their intended goal since June of 2019.

Ton of internal corporate politics Spencer needs to navigate at Microsoft. So i can only judge him by his visible actions. An everything he's done so far seems to be in good faith.

 

[Madmick]

Because one thing I sure as hell never believed in was dissolving exclusivity completely to where you put your games on competing consoles.

Its been his main goal since becoming CEO.

He's alluded to it periodically after he became CEO. But flat out stated this is their intended goal since June of 2019.

June 2019? I call bullshit.

Link for the rest of us the showcases/interviews where Phil Spencer states outright that his main goal since Day 1 as CEO was to end exclusivity of Microsoft-published titles entirely. I've never heard or read him saying that anywhere in 2019 or earlier.

I've heard him state many times back then that he sees full exclusivity as an "icky" thing, but not console exclusivity. He also stated the desire to build a future where you can play your Xbox games on any device: console, PC, phone, smart TV, or even modest cloud-capable devices of the future (that are no more powerful than an Amazon Fire stick, for example). That was the central message in 2021. 'Xbox is a platform, not a console.' And yet when pressed on whether the Xbox app would appear on the Nintendo Switch:

Xbox Everywhere: Phil Spencer wants an Xbox app on as many devices as possible

The future of Xbox is about breaking down barriers to focus on player joy and ease of access

www.gamesradar.com

"You know, it's the right question because people usually ask me about releasing one individual game or another. And what I say is I want the full Xbox experience to be something that we deliver. We have no plans to bring it to any other kind of closed platforms right now, mainly because those closed platforms don't want something like Game Pass. There's a ton of open platforms out there for us to grow in: the web, PC, and mobile. So all of our focus, frankly, is on those platforms."

 

[KaNesDeath]

It's been his strategy for the Xbox's latest generation of hardware to be outsold by nearly 5-to-2 by the PS5, and to remain a distant third in sales in to the Nintendo Switch through the 2020's despite that the Switch released over three years earlier? It's been his plan for not a single console exclusive Xbox game to rank in the best selling 10 games in the USA (Xbox's stronghold) for 2021, 2022, 2023, or 2024 while Playstation/Nintendo games routinely do despite that software sales are source of the bulk of the company's net profit in video games?

Blanketly speaking what XBox an the games and game studios Microsoft own do doesnt interest me. I only care about Microsoft no longer pursuing their monopolistic goals. An if Spencers good faith game pass strategy appeases the executive bean counters at Microsoft from doing that im content.

Personally i'd advise not caring about Nintendo and Sony. Grand scheme of things theyre the two minnows in the gaming space.

 

[Madmick]

Blanketly speaking what XBox an the games and game studios Microsoft own do doesnt interest me. I only care about Microsoft no longer pursuing their monopolistic goals. An if Spencers good faith game pass strategy appeases the executive bean counters at Microsoft from doing that im content.

Personally i'd advise not caring about Nintendo and Sony. Grand scheme of things theyre the two minnows in the gaming space.

Exactly. I knew you were full of shit.

Concession accepted.

 

[method115]

Blanketly speaking what XBox an the games and game studios Microsoft own do doesnt interest me. I only care about Microsoft no longer pursuing their monopolistic goals. An if Spencers good faith game pass strategy appeases the executive bean counters at Microsoft from doing that im content.

Personally i'd advise not caring about Nintendo and Sony. Grand scheme of things theyre the two minnows in the gaming space.

Sony is a minnow? They are the first company in history to reach 30 billion in revenue. You have the wildest takes on this gaming forum.

 

[Madmick]

Sony is a minnow? They are the first company in history to reach 30 billion in revenue. You have the wildest takes on this gaming forum.

I'd say that's a generously diplomatic way to put it.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Sony is a minnow? They are the first company in history to reach 30 billion in revenue. You have the wildest takes on this gaming forum.

Both are valued around 100 billion. Their direct competitors are multi trillion dollar companies. That also have proprietary rights that go beyond just software to also hardware. While maintaining and retaining over a much larger users base thats expanding at a faster rate.

 

[avenue94]

Both are valued around 100 billion. Their direct competitors are multi trillion dollar companies. That also have proprietary rights that go beyond just software to also hardware. While maintaining and retaining over a much larger users base thats expanding at a faster rate.

Who are their direct competitors that are multi trillion dollar companies?

 

[KaNesDeath]

Who are their direct competitors that are multi trillion dollar companies?

Apple, Google and Microsoft.

 

[avenue94]

Apple, Google and Microsoft.

Microsoft competes with those companies to some extent. Xbox and PlayStation do not.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Microsoft competes with those companies to some extent. Xbox and PlayStation do not.

While Nintendo and Sony operate in the console market. They all are in direct competition with one another over the same finite amount of available customers.

 

[avenue94]

While Nintendo and Sony operate in the console market. They all are in direct competition with one another over the same finite amount of available customers.

Sure. That doesn't make them gigantic multi trillion dollar companies that dwarf poor ol Xbox.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Sure. That doesn't make them gigantic multi trillion dollar companies that dwarf poor ol Xbox.

Im talking about Sony and Nintendos place in the gaming space. Microsofts gaming interests expand beyond XBox to also Windows.

 

[avenue94]

Im talking about Sony and Nintendos place in the gaming space. Microsofts gaming interests expand beyond XBox to also Windows.

The Windows side is still small and in real world terms offset by the cache and strength of IP that Sony and Nintendo have.

Even handhelds haven't moved the needle much for Xbox's bottom line.

 

[KaNesDeath]

The Windows side is still small and in real world terms offset by the cache and strength of IP that Sony and Nintendo have.

Pc gaming is the second(?) fastest growing gaming delivery platform behind smartphones. Where Microsoft dominates over 90% of that consumer market through its OS usage. Even game developers who develop Playstation and or Switch exclusives do so under Windows.

 

[avenue94]

Pc gaming is the second(?) fastest growing gaming delivery platform behind smartphones. Where Microsoft dominates over 90% of that consumer market through its OS usage. Even game developers who develop Playstation and or Switch exclusives do so under Windows.

And how much do you think Windows gets per activated Windows license? They don't rake in money from Windows gaming, and PC Game Pass revenue is way behind what something like a Valve takes in.