*Official WR Liberal Concession Thread*

[Fawlty]

LOL @ "Liberal" concession thread. Nothing liberal about shilling for a corporate neocon like Clinton. Thread title thread should read "Democrat Shill concession thread" or "phony progressive thread" or blind sheep concession thread".

LOL

 

[Anung Un Rama]

LOL

Precisely

 

[Fawlty]

Precisely

It sounds like you're upset because we're not upset enough about Trump's win. To say I'm not a liberal because I supported Clinton means your head is in deep distress. Probably the same distress that got you thinking the turd party candidates would each crack 5%. That's probably the worst and least informed prediction I saw anybody make this cycle. But it's no surprise that you're unable to be decent. Even the people I've been slinging shit for months with have been cool about it. Then there's you...

LOL

 

[kpt018]

It shouldn't be a new one. Politics are easily divided into people that want to be left alone and people that don't want to leave them alone... The modern leftists.... authoritarians.

Remember, your policies compel people to do things. Mine do not.

I don't think you know what an authoritarian means.

 

[Limbo Pete]

It shouldn't be a new one. Politics are easily divided into people that want to be left alone and people that don't want to leave them alone... The modern leftists.... authoritarians.

Remember, your policies compel people to do things. Mine do not.

Inb4 transvaginal probes

 

[Anung Un Rama]

It sounds like you're upset because we're not upset enough about Trump's win. To say I'm not a liberal because I supported Clinton means your head is in deep distress. Probably the same distress that got you thinking the turd party candidates would each crack 5%. That's probably the worst and least informed prediction I saw anybody make this cycle. But it's no surprise that you're unable to be decent. Even the people I've been slinging shit for months with have been cool about it. Then there's you...

LOL

Nice try.

 

[Greoric]

I don't think you know what an authoritarian means.

As you were...

 

[Yunes]

oh, mm-hmm

 

[kpt018]

As you were...

Awesome. I mean, you are aware that authoritarians want limited political voice or power, something that is directly opposed to what liberals believe, yes? So obviously your characterization of liberals as authoritarians is stupid.

 

[TheGreatA]

Awesome. I mean, you are aware that authoritarians want limited political voice or power, something that is directly opposed to what liberals believe, yes? So obviously your characterization of liberals as authoritarians is stupid.

Not all leftists are liberals.

 

[kpt018]

Not all leftists are liberals.

Did you read our back and forth? Greoric believes taxation makes you and authoritarian.

 

[TheGreatA]

Did you read our back and forth? Greoric believes taxation makes you and authoritarian.

If you take 50% off a man's earnings, with the alternative being hard time in a prison cell, what else is it, but authoritarian?

I believe a "liberal" should seek a model of government which doesn't rely on high taxation.

 

[kpt018]

If you take 50% off a man's earnings, with the alternative being hard time in a prison cell, what else is it, but authoritarian?

I believe a "liberal" should seek a model of government which doesn't rely on high taxation.

Great, so you don't understand it either. You know that Republicans are also in favor of taxation? It just sounds like you assign an arbitrary tax level and call that authoritarian, while missing out on the definition of that position.

Plus, very, very few people pay close to 50% so stop being so dramatic.

 

[TheGreatA]

Great, so you don't understand it either. You know that Republicans are also in favor of taxation? It just sounds like you assign an arbitrary tax level and call that authoritarian, while missing out on the definition of that position.

Plus, very, very few people pay close to 50% so stop being so dramatic.

All I'm saying is that the more you tax, the more authoritarian you are in that department. Likewise, the less you demand in taxes, the more freedom you give to the people in order to spend their own income. Obviously, no state can run without some form of taxation. A minimal amount is needed, atleast, to maintain order.

In my country, people often pay 50% or more in taxes.

A lot of people want to implement the Nordic model into the United States.

 

[kpt018]

All I'm saying is that the more you tax, the more authoritarian you are in that department. Likewise, the less you demand in taxes, the more freedom you give to the people in order to spend their own income. Obviously, no state can run without some form of taxation. A minimal amount is needed, atleast, to maintain order.

In my country, people often pay 50% or more in taxes.

A lot of people want to implement the Nordic model into the United States.

Ok, so what was up with the Stalin photo you posted? There is nothing in this post I disagree with. Of course I know what comes of extreme views.

 

[glennrod]

Classy thread @Fawlty

 

[Greoric]

Awesome. I mean, you are aware that authoritarians want limited political voice or power, something that is directly opposed to what liberals believe, yes? So obviously your characterization of liberals as authoritarians is stupid.

Negative. Authoritarians want more authority. Authority is about control, and leftists like you want more control over society and individuals. Therefore you're an authoritarian and a leftist.

 

[TheGreatA]

Ok, so what was up with the Stalin photo you posted? There is nothing in this post I disagree with. Of course I know what comes of extreme views.

Well, the point was, basically, I don't think Greoric is talking about "liberals" specifically. He's talking about leftists, who can also be hard-line socialists, which ought to be separated from the liberals. And many socialists tend to turn towards the authoritarian rule, as a result of wanting to increase the power and control of the state over the population in order to impose equality.

We have to be a bit careful not to cross the line from presenting people with equal opportunity, to enforcing equal outcomes. Sometimes, the leftists tend to cross this line in their eagerness for egalitarianism.

 

[Greoric]

Well, the point was, basically, I don't think Greoric is talking about "liberals" specifically. He's talking about leftists, who can also be hard-line socialists, which ought to be separated from the liberals. And many socialists tend to turn towards the authoritarian rule, as a result of wanting to increase the power and control of the state over the population in order to impose equality.

We have to be a bit careful not to cross the line from presenting people with equal opportunity, to enforcing equal outcomes. Sometimes, the leftists tend to cross this line in their eagerness for egalitarianism.

Good post distinguishing liberals from leftists.

 

[TheGreatA]

Good post distinguishing liberals from leftists.

I don't think the idea of liberty can co-exist with the socialist state. Atleast that's what I've found out from living in one for the past couple of decades.