*Official WR Liberal Concession Thread*

[Greoric]

The point is to address the obviously flaws in your thinking about having no taxation and no government.

Sure, and its worthy of note how you go about doing that. You don't attack the argument by defending the alphabet soup agencies or planned parenthood. You do it from a minarchist/ libertarian perspective... and yet with regard to your posting history you're quite distant from that stance.

 

[kpt018]

Alright, well let's clear it up. How much of my income do you think the government should be able to confiscate every year? What's an acceptable figure to you?

Loaded question, not biting. See my other post.

 

[kpt018]

Sure, and its worthy of note how you go about doing that. You don't attack the argument by defending the alphabet soup agencies or planned parenthood. You do it from a minarchist/ libertarian perspective... and yet with regard to your posting history you're quite distant from that stance.

I've explained why. Again, the conversation was about your view of taxation as coercion.

 

[Greoric]

It's a really simple and logical progression. You believe taxes are coercion, ok. So since we agree that we need to protect ourselves from invaders and we need basic things for our society to function, how do we pay for it? You refuse to answer. All good, but like I've said a million times if we can't get past this we can't address the more advanced needs of a complex society.

We get them the same way we get everything else through the market. People want to feel secure right? Well there's your demand... and your profit opportunity for supply. You're the one making the claim that the only way we can possibly provide any of those basic services is by coercion. That's insane.

Hence why I've asked you, why you think a compulsory funded monopoly is the most efficient way at distributing services. You're not a socialist, so you obviously believe in the markets over the government's capability to provide other, less necessary services. So why does that change for the necessary ones? What automatically makes a monopoly more effective at distributing them?

 

[Greoric]

I've explained why. Again, the conversation was about your view of taxation as coercion.

You're missing what I'm saying here my man. I'm trying to get you to take note of what kind of arguments you're making with regard to government's necessity, i.e. they're not the services and policies a democrat would defend, only the ones a minarchist and libertarian would.

 

[Fawlty]

Bump.

For reference. It's your turn. Who has the balls?

 

[The Diplomat]

Bump.

For reference. It's your turn. Who has the balls?

Are there even A) Any American Trump supporters left and B) Not banned?

 

[Fawlty]

Are there even A) Any American Trump supporters left and B) Not banned?

I don't know, but one of them owes us a concession thread.

 

[My Spot]

It's technically not over yet.

<[analyzed}>

Spoiler

It's over. :/

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

I don't know, but one of them owes us a concession thread.

Good luck with that

 

[Anung Un Rama]

@Starman @Culombo you ready?

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

It's technically not over yet.

<[analyzed}>

Spoiler

It's over. :/

You sure about that , there's many dirty moves left that Trump and his angry horde will attempt

 

[My Spot]

You sure about that , there's many dirty moves left that Trump and his angry horde will attempt

Nah, that's just keeping kayfabe.