Official Women's Division Discussion #26

[Eater of Souls]

only miesha tate to the best of my knowledge

eta: my bad, didn't read the question properly - miesha was a high school wrestler prior to joining xtreme couture

She trained other places, also, I believe. Including TAM? I could very easily be wrong here.

 

[vgff]

That was a nice win but Whitmire is bottom of the barrel ufc SW, Ribas herself was smashed by Polyana Viana (0-2ufc sw) she's not going to be even top 15 in 18 months.

maybe, maybe not. but Ribas is just 25. it's too early to say where her ceiling is

 

[werepig]

No, it isn't. That Ribas has only briefly trained at ATT and isn't there full-time (unlike Whitmire, who has been training full-time at Extreme Couture for a long time) is a fact.

That not every female who trains at ATT magically improves or even becomes good is a fact.

Blaming a fighter's loss on their (solid) camp, however, is worse than conjecture; it's a sorry-ass, loser excuse.

so what you're saying is... riba's victory has nothing to do with att, and whitmire's loss has nothing to do with xc.

ok

 

[leto1776]

She trained other places, also, I believe. Including TAM? I could very easily be wrong here.

Started in Washington, her and Brian moved to TAM, then from TAM to XC.

 

[Eater of Souls]

Started in Washington, her and Brian moved to TAM, then from TAM to XC.

Thanks.

 

[SeverianB]

Which of these fighters should be higher ranked/more deserving of a title shot?

Fighter A:
- Got a split decision over #10
- Got a decision over #9.
- Got a decision over #6.

Fighter B:
- Got a decision over a UNRANKED fighter.
- Got a sub over a UNRANKED fighter.
- Got a decision over #7.

 

[leto1776]

Which of these fighters should be higher ranked/more deserving of a title shot?

Fighter A:
- Got a split decision over #10
- Got a decision over #9.
- Got a decision over #6.

Fighter B:
- Got a decision over a UNRANKED fighter.
- Got a sub over a UNRANKED fighter.
- Got a decision over #7.

You forgot to mention fighter B has a win over fighter A’s last loss.

 

[SeverianB]

You forgot to mention fighter B has a win over fighter A’s last loss.

Not relevant. Especially when you know fighter A has improved massively since that loss (years ago!) and was very ill at the time.

 

[Xuh]

Which of these fighters should be higher ranked/more deserving of a title shot?

Fighter A:
- Got a split decision over #10
- Got a decision over #9.
- Got a decision over #6.

Fighter B:
- Got a decision over a UNRANKED fighter.
- Got a sub over a UNRANKED fighter.
- Got a decision over #7.

Which one will sell more tickets?

 

[leto1776]

Which one will sell more tickets?

And has a better chance of putting up a good fight?

 

[leto1776]

Not relevant. Especially when you know fighter A has improved massively since that loss (years ago!) and was very ill at the time.

1.5 years. Not long.

 

[Mittens]

Which of these fighters should be higher ranked/more deserving of a title shot?

I know you probably thought you are making a good point, but even if we disregard that UFC rolls on stuff @Xuh and @leto1776 mention, 10/9/6 and -/-/7 are


Do not say it, Bill! NO!

Anyway, like em both a lot, what got booked is much cooler and better idea from any imaginable standpoint.

 

[Mittens]

In other news, I just realized I don't know the first name of MMA Announcing Goldberg.

 

[Eater of Souls]

Which of these fighters should be higher ranked/more deserving of a title shot?

Fighter A:
- Got a split decision over #10
- Got a decision over #9.
- Got a decision over #6.

Fighter B:
- Got a decision over a UNRANKED fighter.
- Got a sub over a UNRANKED fighter.
- Got a decision over #7.

The one that is not named Waterson. Now take your meds.

 

[Eater of Souls]

1.5 years. Not long.

I love the assertion "not relevant" as if records do not matter. And, of course, the wholly subjective standard of "massive improvement."

 

[Mittens]

This popped up in my newsfeed: http://invictafc.com/2019/07/02/pam...tle-for-featherweight-title-at-invicta-fc-36/

"The current Invicta FC 36 fight card can be found below:

Featherweight Title: Pam Sorenson vs. Kaitlin Young
Strawweight: Janaisa Morandin vs. Emily Ducote
Atomweight: Jéssica Delboni vs. Lindsey VanZandt
Strawweight: Kailin Curran vs. TBA
Flyweight: Stephanie Geltmacher vs. Victoria Leonardo
Atomweight: Alyse Anderson vs. Anastasia Nikolakakos
Flyweight: Chantel Coates vs. Caitlin Sammons
Bantamweight: Erin Harpe vs. Auttumn Norton
Bantamweight: Megan Cawley vs. Julia Ottolino"

 

[vgff]

Not relevant. Especially when you know fighter A has improved massively since that loss (years ago!) and was very ill at the time.

of course it's relevant. just like it's relevant that Michelle lost every time she fought an elite fighter

 

[GiSP]

I must have missed something somewhere. I just noticed Pannie Kianzad is fighting at UFC 239. I hadn’t heard she’d even been called up. I’ve been a bit awol for a month. But, her signing must have been before that, right?

 

[vgff]

I must have missed something somewhere. I just noticed Pannie Kianzad is fighting at UFC 239. I hadn’t heard she’d even been called up. I’ve been a bit awol for a month. But, her signing must have been before that, right?

announced a week or two ago. not the first time UFC signs a TUF-loser or DWCS-loser to fill in on a short notice replacement. good for her, she deserves it

 

[GiSP]

announced a week or two ago. not the first time UFC signs a TUF-loser or DWCS-loser to fill in on a short notice replacement. good for her, she deserves it

Thanks, I wasn’t sure how I missed the news. Now I know that it was while I was awol.