Official Women's Division Discussion #26

[Sausage_Carius]

I disagree. This was setup for Lipski. Shes a standup fighter with shitty ground game, so they gave her another standup fighter with a shitty ground game.

Molly's a sound girl, and she improves with every fight. But lets face it, if you are getting 30-27'd by Molly McCann you dont belong in the UFC

Who claimed it wasn't setup for her? I said they did a bad job.

You also invalidated your first point with the second.

 

[dim_]

Really though? This was about as good a matchup as they could have given her. She's supposed to have been a ferocious strker with good technique, so a brawler who is allergic to grappling was perfect on paper. What would a nicer matchup, Priscila Cachoiera? Based on that showing I wouldn't be too confident on Lipski winning that one either. & at that point you have to say, well, maybe she just isn't good enough for the UFC at all.

this is the current list of unranked fighters on the 125lb roster

Antonina Shevchenko
Diana I Belbita
Emily Whitmire
Gillian Robertson
JJ Aldrich
Lauren Mueller
Maia Stevenson
Maryna Moroz
Mayra Silva
Molly M McCann
Priscila Cachoeira Gomes da Silva
Rachael Ostovich-Berdon
Sabina Mazo
Sarah Frota Lima
Shana Dobson
Taila Santos
Veronica Macedo

Molly is pretty much as favourable matchup as they could have given. Priscila Cachoeira maybe, but she has a similar style to Molly and theres no guarantee she wins that.

Who else, cross off all the Americans because they can wrestle. Anyone like Ostovich, Aldrich etc take her down and pummel her. Cross of Macedo because she would make her tap. Brawlers like Sarah Frota would be too in her face

So what are you left with. Shane Dobson? Antonina Shevchenko?

I guess Antonina would be fine, will stand up, keep fight at range, and has zero ground game.

 

[dim_]

You also invalidated your first point with the second.

what that Molly improves with every fight. Well so should Ariani be...

 

[Sausage_Carius]

what that Molly improves with every fight. Well so should Ariani be...

No you said she is sound. Lipski has no ground game to speak of what so ever and never had... even bad.

By the way I don't disagree that they should both be improving. That's why I said she needs to ditch the BF and get with a real team that will work with her. Yeah at this point she needs a can to crush. That's what it comes down to. Then slowly build her back up and see how it goes.

 

[PurpleStorm]

I am watching the fight again and there was seriously a Meatball chant at the start of the 2nd round. I usually watch fights with the sound off to avoid bias commentary.

Unconfirmed rumor: between rounds Joe Martinez asked the crowd what kind of submarine sandwiches they want served at the concession stands.

 

[msm1981]

What in the world was Syuri Kondo's malfunction since she managed to end up on the wrong
end of a 30-26,30-25,30-24 score card which is really bad when she was on a 2 fight skid going
into this weekend already.

 

[Rizz]

The signs of a smart fighter.

 

[vgff]

If you are going to continue that stupid shtick with me by being a contrarian at least make a lazy attempt to make sense.

You give cans to build fighters losing to build up their confidence and show people what they can do if given free reign.

if you're too dumb to understand that's on you, sausage guy
maybe you lost money and you're emotional, but this is all just a bunch of hindsight wisdom and "could've, would've, should've"
didn't see you complain about this matchup before the fight
and in case you didn't know, this isn't boxing where you feed cans to prospects until they're good enough to fight someone decent

 

[Sausage_Carius]

if you're too dumb to understand that's on you, sausage guy
maybe you lost money and you're emotional, but this is all just a bunch of hindsight wisdom and "could've, would've, should've"
didn't see you complain about this matchup before the fight
and in case you didn't know, this isn't boxing where you feed cans to prospects until they're good enough to fight someone decent

The UFC literally does what you say they don't do. They just pick and choose who to do it for.

Also I don't need to comment on every single matchup where I see stupid decisions. It's boring. I saw this as a serious issue for Lipski the same way I saw Tecia as a serious issue for Joanna. Lipski did not have the tools to deal with it. Joanna did. I'm just not as invested in Lipski and there really wasn't a big discussion about this fight to warrant me investing in it. I do have a life and going back to it thank you very much.

 

[Rizz]

Andrea Lee almost did it again. She had a clear win in her hand and decides to grapple a grappler near the end of the fight. Could have easily got choked or put in an armbar but she pulled it out today.

 

[dim_]

No you said she is sound...

Im a Brit, and born just north of Liverpool. "Sound" doesnt mean what you think it does.

Shes sound, means she's decent girl, shes ok, shes nice, shes alright..

- Whats that Molly girl like?
- Oh her, yeh, shes sound her..

Or, someone could ask me if I was ok.

- How are you doing today?
- Oh I'm sound mate, you?

 

[Sausage_Carius]

Im a Brit, and born just north of Liverpool. "Sound" doesnt mean what you think it does.

Shes sound, means she's decent girl, shes ok, shes nice, shes alright..

- Whats that Molly girl like?
- Oh her, yeh, shes sound right..

I'm not an uneducated American. I know exactly what you meant and I meant what I said.

 

[dim_]

I'm not an uneducated American. I know exactly what you meant and I meant what I said.

so what has her being nice/cool/sound got to do with MMA matchmaking?

You thought "sound" was referring to her technical ability




^^ how does my saying thats shes ok, shes cool, shes a nice girl, in any way invalidate the statement that if you are losing to her you dont deserve to be in the UFC?

its possible to be a nice person and not be a great fighter.

You thought "sound" i was talking about her skills etc..

 

[leto1776]

so what has her being nice/cool/sound got to do with MMA matchmaking?

You thought "sound" was referring to her technical ability


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^^ how does my saying thats shes ok, shes cool, shes a nice girl, in any way invalidate the statement that if you are losing to her you dont deserve to be in the UFC?

its possible to be a nice person and not be a great fighter.

You thought "sound" i was talking about her skills etc..

Sausage carrier accuse everyone else of being contrarian, not realizing the irony.

 

[Sausage_Carius]

so what has her being nice/cool/sound got to do with MMA matchmaking?

You thought "sound" was referring to her technical ability


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^^ how does my saying thats shes ok, shes cool, shes a nice girl, in any way invalidate the statement that if you are losing to her you dont deserve to be in the UFC?

its possible to be a nice person and not be a great fighter.

You thought "sound" i was talking about her skills etc..

I'm surrounded by Brits. Nobody uses sound to mean that around here within the context of skills which is what we were talking about. You make a habit of deliberately doing this not just to me but others that disagree with you.

I'm surprised your sheep shack can hold up a sat dish.

 

[Sausage_Carius]

Sausage carrier accuse everyone else of being contrarian, not realizing the irony.

Not everyone. One person specifically because I noticed that's his shtick.

Yours is being a coward.

 

[Rizz]

So much drama in here and I am just happy two have watched two good fights between Andrea Lee vs Montana and Lipski vs Meatball.

 

[Sausage_Carius]

So much drama in here and I am just happy two have watched two good fights between Andrea Lee vs Montana and Lipski vs Meatball.

I apologize. It started with me posting information that wasn't always right which in some instances I even admitted to. Instead of correcting it in a friendly manner a few people decided hey this is a great opportunity to jump down someone's throat who seems not know absolutely everything. They were shocked when I wouldn't instantly cave but instead expected a discussion and not an execution. I presume this is because they are accustomed to dealing with a bunch of pussies who never in their life stood up for themselves.

It escalated from there even after I have repeatedly put out an olive branch. They don't give a fuck and will go out of their way to find a comment I have randomly in a thread elsewhere and insult me. Not all of them mind you just some of them like leto.

The only mistake I ever made here is go easy on one of them once. He threw it in my face immediately. I won't ever make that mistake again.

 

[dim_]

I'm surrounded by Brits. Nobody uses sound to mean that around here within the context of skills which is what we were talking about..

how many scousers are you surrounded by.

The reason I made a point to say I thought she was "sound" is that I was about to then make a disparaging remark in regards her ability (anyone who loses to her doesnt deserve to be in the UFC).

So i started the paragraph by making it clear that I like Molly, shes cool, shes "sound", so that its clear that its not a dislike of her that was responsible for the disparaging comment.

basically, in American so you can understand.

"I like Molly but shes not a very good fighter"

nothing contradictory at all.

 

[Sausage_Carius]

how many scousers are you surrounded by.

The reason I made a point to say I thought she was "sound" is that I was about to then make a disparaging remark in regards her ability (anyone who loses to her doesnt deserve to be in the UFC).

So i started the paragraph by making it clear that I like Molly, shes cool, shes "sound", so that its clear that its not a dislike of her that was responsible for the disparaging comment.

basically, in American so you can understand.

"I like Molly but shes not a very good fighter"

nothing contradictory at all.

scousers? none

In that case it's a misunderstanding and I apologize.

You may return to your regularly scheduled burning of opposing football team buses.