International Official White House account posts video of undocumented migrants being bound in chains; calls it "ASMR"

[EndlessCritic]

This is beyond gross.

American laws need to be enforced in pursuit of a higher end (law and order).

But the actual day to day enforcement itself involves massive amounts of human suffering. While it may be appropriate to tolerate this suffering in pursuit of the higher end, it is not appropriate to celebrate this human suffering.

 

[Confucamus]

Americans overwhelmingly voted for illegals to be deported and the majority of Americans already approve of the job being done so far. This video wasn't really necessary.

 

[Broke Lester]

Awesome strawman. I didn't mention anything about transgenders. This topic had nothing to do with trannies but you brought it up for no reason?

You don't think this video is not trying to be edgy? You feel a good ASMR sensation when you watch people being dehumanized?

I didn't say anything about transgenders either, where in my previous post did you read the word transgender?
Here's my previous post about how I feel.

This clip is tax money well spent, very satisfying.

 

[Scheme]

First, I'm not the one suffering a burden of evidence to prove that person is a criminal, because it has already been established by numerous press outlets that not all of those deported by plane in these seminal days of Trump's second term have been criminals, but second, no, it wouldn't matter if that person was a criminal. We don't do that to criminals in our own justice system when we chain them. It's a judicial matter of crime and punishment, not a goddamned Twitch channel.

No, you claimed they were "desperate people". You said that in your original post:

If you derive pleasure from chaining up desperate people (desperate for whatever reason, I don't care whose fault it is)

Implying that the person in this video was not a criminal who preyed on innocent and desperate people, instead just a desperate person who just wanted a better life so they came to America. You made the original claim that these people were not the criminals that the Trump administration was targeting in the initial wave. You should be the one who provides that proof, I was simply asking you to do so.

We do parade people in chains in our justice system. You can view many public hearings of people who are convicted and guess what, they are handcuffed and often times more than that. Or when police initially detain people, they will show them in handcuffs. You realize that the chains aren't some "return to slavery" like some retards here have suggested? It's actually so that the person can't easily escape or harm the detaining officers.

Also many of these people are criminals who don't even get to face justice for their crimes. They commit violent acts on us and instead of being incarcerated, they are deported back to their countries, where they may not even face justice.

I don't even disagree that it's in poor taste and incendiery. But you know what's assuring to me? If these people are violent criminals, the fact that they are restrained in chains and not harming innocent people. I do take comfort and pleasure knowing that criminals are being bound and deported rather than allowed to stay in the country and harm people. Again, this is assuming they are violent criminals which from initial reporting seems like the vast majority are.

 

[Scheme]

Some of you people have lost your humanity.

So if someone rapes/murders your sister, mother, wife, etc., have they lost their humanity? Or is it only criminals that have already proven they have no empathy that we should reserve our empathy for?

 

[b-hop]

So if someone rapes/murders your sister, mother, wife, etc., have they lost their humanity? Or is it only criminals that have already proven they have no empathy that we should reserve our empathy for?

Weird nobody talks about empathy to their own cocitizens(if they're americans), thousands raped, killed and tormented by illegals. Never heard a libtard stand up for them.

 

[GrantB13]

So if someone rapes/murders your sister, mother, wife, etc., have they lost their humanity? Or is it only criminals that have already proven they have no empathy that we should reserve our empathy for?

Their jail sentence and/or deportation is punishment. People will pretty well automatically outcast them. But it's a step too far to humiliate them like the Roman Empire.

 

[GrantB13]

Weird nobody talks about empathy to their own cocitizens(if they're americans), thousands raped, killed and tormented by illegals. Never heard a libtard stand up for them.

Weird. All people should be equal. I find it a little hard to believe you've never heard a liberal admonish crimes against citizens. Are you sure you're just not assuming everyone you associate with is of the same political affiliation as you?

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Grossly inappropriate to post on an official page. And morally fucked up to say at all. Regardless of if you think they should be here or not, there are standards of decency that should be maintained. I wouldn’t want an American to be treated this way in another country.

 

[Seano]

Some of you people have lost your humanity.

Some of you people have lost your common sense.

 

[Madmick]

No, you claimed they were "desperate people". You said that in your original post:

Implying that the person in this video was not a criminal who preyed on innocent and desperate people, instead just a desperate person who just wanted a better life so they came to America. You made the original claim that these people were not the criminals that the Trump administration was targeting in the initial wave. You should be the one who provides that proof, I was simply asking you to do so.

We do parade people in chains in our justice system. You can view many public hearings of people who are convicted and guess what, they are handcuffed and often times more than that. Or when police initially detain people, they will show them in handcuffs. You realize that the chains aren't some "return to slavery" like some retards here have suggested? It's actually so that the person can't easily escape or harm the detaining officers.

Also many of these people are criminals who don't even get to face justice for their crimes. They commit violent acts on us and instead of being incarcerated, they are deported back to their countries, where they may not even face justice.

I don't even disagree that it's in poor taste and incendiery. But you know what's assuring to me? If these people are violent criminals, the fact that they are restrained in chains and not harming innocent people. I do take comfort and pleasure knowing that criminals are being bound and deported rather than allowed to stay in the country and harm people. Again, this is assuming they are violent criminals which from initial reporting seems like the vast majority are.

I did not claim that none of the people deported were criminals. You invented that in your head. However, the very first two planes of 201 deported migrants to Columbia during Trump's second term were verified by Columbian authorities to not have a single person with a criminal record in the US or Columbia:

First deportees from US were not criminals, Colombian government says

Two planes of U.S. deportees arrived in Bogotá on Tuesday after a weekend standoff between President Donald Trump and Colombian President Gustavo Petro.

www.newsweek.com

Furthermore, the vast majority of those we have deported historically, under Trump or any other President, have not been criminals. They are desperate people. Whether or not they have legitimate claims to asylum is irrelevant. Whether or not their desperation is the result of their own negligence, or more broadly, of the faults of the country or culture to which they and their ancestors have belonged, is irrelevant.

So to characterize them as desperate (innocently or otherwise) is almost certainly the most frequently accurate claim. Not that it matters, because, as I already explained, it's irrelevant. Our government doesn't advertise this as entertainment. Maybe TV networks do. Maybe the press does. Our government doesn't. What transparency exists in government with arrests and prisoners is intended to allow vigilant citizens to know what is going on; as much to protect us from government abuse as to enlighten us to predators among us.

It's certainly not to gloat that it's fucking "ASMR". Screw your damn head on straight.

 

[GrantB13]

Some of you people have lost your common sense.

Why? Deport illegal criminals. Handcuff them for safety. DON'T post some edgelord AMSR video. How is this a wrong stance to take? It's freaking crazy that people against this type of thing are criticized for not being ok with it. Some people on are just fucking nuts, dude.

 

[MMA IAN]

were verified by Columbian authorities to not have a single person with a criminal record in the US or Columbia:

First deportees from US were not criminals, Colombian government says

Two planes of U.S. deportees arrived in Bogotá on Tuesday after a weekend standoff between President Donald Trump and Colombian President Gustavo Petro.

www.newsweek.com

It's in your link.

their sole offense being in the U.S. illegally.

In case you were unaware, doing something illegal makes you a criminal.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Weird nobody talks about empathy to their own cocitizens(if they're americans), thousands raped, killed and tormented by illegals.

Thousands? It's a least in the millions.

Tens of millions of Americans are murdered and tortured by illegals every day but you won't hear a peep of this from the libs!

 

[NoSmilez]

The shackling of deportees isn't new. It was reported by news outlets a few weeks ago but nobody gave a shit because it happened to Indian people. Most of those Indians didn't have a criminal record. They didn’t take off the cuffs when the deportees went to the bathroom. At least they didn’t chain up the females and children.

The current administration is also childish. They doubled down and made an ASMR video featuring the shackles. You can support deportation without being edgy about it.

 

[NoSmilez]

I didn't say anything about transgenders either, where in my previous post did you read the word transgender?
Here's my previous post about how I feel.

Read what you posted when you quoted me.

 

[Croo67]

Liberals have only just realised that criminals get put in handcuffs, it seems.

 

[Scheme]

I did not claim that none of the people deported were not criminals. You invented that in your head. However, the very first two planes of 201 deported migrants to Columbia during Trump's second term were verified by Columbian authorities to not have a single person with a criminal record in the US or Columbia:

First deportees from US were not criminals, Colombian government says

Two planes of U.S. deportees arrived in Bogotá on Tuesday after a weekend standoff between President Donald Trump and Colombian President Gustavo Petro.

www.newsweek.com

Furthermore, the vast majority of those we have deported historically, under Trump or any other President, have not been criminals. They are desperate people. Whether or not they have legitimate claims to asylum is irrelevant. Whether or not their desperation is the result of their own negligence, or more broadly, of the faults of the country or culture to which they and their ancestors have belonged, is irrelevant.

So to characterize them as desperate (innocently or otherwise) is almost certainly the most frequently accurate claim. Not that it matters, because, as I already explained, it's irrelevant. Our government doesn't advertise this as entertainment. Maybe TV networks do. Maybe the press does. Our government doesn't. What transparency exists in government with arrests and prisoners is intended to allow vigilant citizens to know what is going on; as much to protect us from government abuse as to enlighten us to predators among us.

It's certainly not to gloat that it's fucking "ASMR". Screw your damn head on straight.

That's appalling and sickening. This isn't entertainment. There isn't supposed to be an undercurrent of spite to this. If you believe deportations are for the benefit of the country, that's fine. If you derive pleasure from chaining up desperate people (desperate for whatever reason, I don't care whose fault it is), you're a monster.

This is your post. See the line:
If you derive pleasure from chaining up desperate people (desperate for whatever reason, I don't care whose fault it is

You don't know this person at all. You don't know if they are desperate people, or people who simply entered the US to commit crime, smuggle drugs, etc. The burden of proof to say that this person in the OP was a "desperate person" is on you because you made the claim. I never claimed he was a criminal or otherwise. I said if he was a criminal I don't think it's that big of an issue at all, which is likely since the Trump administration has been targeting them specifically.

Now if we're talking about non-criminal illegal immigrants who only broke into the country, I don't think it's that decent to do it. But if it is showcasing the fact that criminals are finally being deported from our country then I simply don't care at all. I don't have any empathy for rapists, murderers, philes, terrorists, etc. I simply don't understand why people have empathy for the biggest monsters in our society. I have empathy for the people and communities they hurt. Maybe if you people like you had more empathy for the actual victims we wouldn't have so many actual victims of these crimes. But because every criminal just needs a sob story for half the country to prostrate them they have continued to make America a place with higher violent crime than countries actively at war.

Maybe because people like you haven't had a person close to you murdered, raped, etc. by an illegal immigrant. But these horrific stories happen all the time and having people crying that we aren't treating them with respect is what's actually disgusting in society.

And again I am saying this conditionally because for some reason people on this forum can't understand that I can hold two opinions based on further evidence. If these guy were violent criminals then I really don't care about the OP. If they were not then it is in bad taste. I believe you are smart enough to comprehend that.

 

[Scheme]

Weird nobody talks about empathy to their own cocitizens(if they're americans), thousands raped, killed and tormented by illegals. Never heard a libtard stand up for them.

I believe they have heard way too many sob stories of criminals. Perhaps it's from movies, TV, etc. that constantly glorify horrific people committing horrific acts of violence. Guys like Tony Soprano, Michael Corleone, etc. are not good guys you want in your neighbourhood. The guy who shot the UHC CEO is not a good person. Walter White was a psychopath. But the constant barrage of injustices and simping for criminals has caused some in our society to believe that criminals are actually just good-hearted people in bad circumstances, rather than ruthless people ruining other people's lives, neighbourhoods, peace and safety. I don't really care about the backstory of a guy who shoots me in the head. I care that they don't do that to anyone ever again.

 

[Broke Lester]

Read what you posted when you quoted me.

Show me the word transgender in my first post that you quoted.