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Squarechoke said:
How pathetic do you need to be to not always criticize the politicians you work for whenever they do something bad or wrong? Such people don't deserve a functional society.
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this sounds nice on the internet but in real life it hardly ever happens anywhere.
people are only brave when talking shit online.
in real life most people are meek and obedient.
this ain't ancient athens where there's 400 dudes in the public square representing 80% of the electorate.
 
Fox by the Sea said:
this sounds nice on the internet but in real life it hardly ever happens anywhere.
people are only brave when talking shit online.
in real life most people are meek and obedient.
this ain't ancient athens where there's 400 dudes in the public square representing 80% of the electorate.
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I've seen public booing of politicians when they say something bad/dumb, for example during the summer politics week in my country where all party leaders hold speeches. Now it isn't all that common but then again no politicians here do anything remotely close to lying to the audience's faces when they are staring right at the evidence. I was of course exaggerating by talking about the cartoon thing of pelting someone with tomatoes but it's just not that rare to see people react negatively to public speeches.

Your point also loses some relevance since the we're in the WR and this place is a great example to show that some won't criticize their chosen politician even when anonymous on the Internet. This is not just a matter of people not daring to speak up in public. America stands out in the amount of supporters that are more like fans than like voters that are looking at policy.
 
Makes perfect sense that one of her final appearances of the election cycle is basically copying a Trump Skit that was much better.



 
Shaun K said:
Senator/Secretary of state for starters. She had a track record of actually doing things. Thousands of deleted emails to prove it.

Tell me what Kamala has been up to

And of all the shit in this thread, why are you focusing on that lol

Talk about a strawman. You should stick with the laughing emojis, youre kind of a shit poster
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As VP? She cast more tie-breaking votes than any other vice president, which helped pass bills such as the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 stimulus package and the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022.

She spent a lot of her vice presidency meeting with like 20 states leaders to discuss abortion rights after roe fell.

Her Central America Forward initiative has "yielded more than $4.2 billion in private sector commitments" to support creating local jobs and other measures to slow the flow of mass migration

She pushed for Congress to pass the Freedom to Vote: John R. Lewis Act, which would have extended the protections of the 1965 Voting Rights Act and required federal approval for some local election law

Seems like a pretty normal work load for a VP for a few years.

But you're still trying to figure out why a two party system isn't ideal so I'm not sure you can really comprehend any of this.
 
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Squarechoke said:
Your point also loses some relevance since the we're in the WR and this place is a great example to show that some won't criticize their chosen politician even when anonymous on the Internet. This is not just a matter of people not daring to speak up in public. America stands out in the amount of supporters that are more like fans than like voters that are looking at policy.
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"Some" is not a relevant metric.
you can find anything that can fit into "some", so it's not useful or relevant to put your argument's strength on "some".
 
Fox by the Sea said:
"Some" is not a relevant metric.
you can find anything that can fit into "some", so it's not useful or relevant to put your argument's strength on "some".
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It's either everyone, some, or no one. I see clearly more of the fan type of supporter when I follow American politics than in the other countries I follow, and that was my statement. I didn't aim to give any specific number and it's silly to expect that.
 
Squarechoke said:
I didn't aim to give any specific number and it's silly to expect that.
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But you DID give a specific number, and that number is contained in the term "everyone" which you used when saying "How doesn't everyone criticize..." , later reinforced with "Always".

That's your initial post i quoted. Those are YOUR words to which i replied that such expectations are ridiculous. Which they are. you later downgraded your own words by saying well actually it's "some", and then you went to "i didn't aim to give any number", which is funny since it's very clear you actually did twice in a row when going from "everyone" to "some", then diluting it even more to ...well abstractions like "well i never did give a number".

If you're not aware of how your own posts change from one minute to the other, i dunno what to tell ya.
 
shockaholic12 said:
As VP? She cast more tie-breaking votes than any other vice president, which helped pass bills such as the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 stimulus package and the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022.

She spent a lot of her vice presidency meeting with like 20 states leaders to discuss abortion rights after roe fell.

Her Central America Forward initiative has "yielded more than $4.2 billion in private sector commitments" to support creating local jobs and other measures to slow the flow of mass migration

She pushed for Congress to pass the Freedom to Vote: John R. Lewis Act, which would have extended the protections of the 1965 Voting Rights Act and required federal approval for some local election law

Seems like a pretty normal work load for a VP for a few years.

But you're still trying to figure out why a two party system isn't ideal so I'm not sure you can really comprehend any of this.
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LoL at ‘slowing the flow of migration’

Close the borders. Simple as that.

Notice none of that garbage is aimed at helping americans, only future votes and her party. None of it benefits americans day to day lives. Grasping at straws.

Is that really the best you can come up with in 4 YEARS…. “She voted” 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
 
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shockaholic12 said:
and with the purchase of an exclusive Trump NFT you will be put on of the first to know email list so you get the heads up when the kraken gets released.
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Notice how your reply has zero to do with the argument. Another win for me.
 
AWilder said:
How are you measuring it?

Trump kicked off 2021 with a coup attempt but sure he's so peaceful.
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Global conflict: the rate of conflict between nations including mass casualties, genocide, military engagements and deaths.
 
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