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Im with ya no way i bet a terribly faded Sanchez could easily be 1-10 last 11 fights.
Yeah Pearsongate still fucks me off too.
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Im with ya no way i bet a terribly faded Sanchez could easily be 1-10 last 11 fights.
Yeah Pearsongate still fucks me off too.
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Red flag - Skelly left team takedown, just gym hopping now, bouncing around the area. Doesn't have Marc Laimon for BJJ, striking coach is the same, he has to schedule his own running, cardio. Say's it bad timing but it won't affect anything. Says his weight is better.
Says it's hard to mimic Elkins style, says he'll train with Cody Pfister, says he just needs to defend takedowns and beat Elkins up while defending.
“[Darren Elkins] is a lot like I am. He’s a wrestler. He’s a goofy looking guy like me. It might be the ugliest match-up in the history of the UFC. Maybe Keith Jardine vs Wanderlei [Silva] (laughs). I don’t think his striking is very crisp. I think he’s got some holes in his stand-up game. He really uses his strikes to work towards the takedown. He’s a grinder so he’s always gonna be in your face, always gonna be pushing forward and looking for those takedowns. From watching the film, I believe my jiu-jitsu is better and I believe my wrestling and my striking are better. One thing with a guy like this is you have to come in in shape. You have to prepare or else he’s gonna wear you out.”
Says it's hard to mimic Elkins style, says he'll train with Cody Pfister, says he just needs to defend takedowns and beat Elkins up while defending.
“[Darren Elkins] is a lot like I am. He’s a wrestler. He’s a goofy looking guy like me. It might be the ugliest match-up in the history of the UFC. Maybe Keith Jardine vs Wanderlei [Silva] (laughs). I don’t think his striking is very crisp. I think he’s got some holes in his stand-up game. He really uses his strikes to work towards the takedown. He’s a grinder so he’s always gonna be in your face, always gonna be pushing forward and looking for those takedowns. From watching the film, I believe my jiu-jitsu is better and I believe my wrestling and my striking are better. One thing with a guy like this is you have to come in in shape. You have to prepare or else he’s gonna wear you out.”
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Siyar - http://mmajunkie.com/2016/03/ufc-19...-welterweight-alive-will-stand-in-front-of-me
“I don’t think there’s any welterweight alive that will stand in front of me and trade with me. There’s nobody.
“Nobody will do it. Nobody dares to stand in front of me and trade with me because I have the power to knock out heavyweights. And they will feel it right away when I touch them.”
“This is my first camp here at Jackson’s, and I absolutely love it,” he said. ” … It was always on my mind to try to see how Jackson’s MMA is, so when I came here, it removed all my doubts. The way they train, the coaches, the leadership in the gym – it’s incredible.
“Also, the fight IQ they try to teach you, becoming a better fighter, it’s a whole new level here.”
“I don’t think there’s any welterweight alive that will stand in front of me and trade with me. There’s nobody.
“Nobody will do it. Nobody dares to stand in front of me and trade with me because I have the power to knock out heavyweights. And they will feel it right away when I touch them.”
“This is my first camp here at Jackson’s, and I absolutely love it,” he said. ” … It was always on my mind to try to see how Jackson’s MMA is, so when I came here, it removed all my doubts. The way they train, the coaches, the leadership in the gym – it’s incredible.
“Also, the fight IQ they try to teach you, becoming a better fighter, it’s a whole new level here.”
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Brad Taschuk http://www.mmaoddsbreaker.com/news/full-ufc-196-betting-odds/
Ilir Latifi should make his cult following happy again after this fight, as he matches up quite well with Gian Villante. Both men are stout wrestlers, and their takedown defense should turn this primarily into a striking battle. On the feet, Villante might be a bit more versatile, but Latifi seems to be both more durable and the harder hitter. At some point, I think he lands on Villante’s chin and ends the New Yorker’s night.
Speaking of guys who have put Villante out, Tom Lawlor faces a much more difficult task this time around, and let’s not forget that he wasn’t doing so well against Villante early either. Corey Anderson should be massive in comparison to the former middleweight, is one of the better wrestlers at 205, and is better on the feet than people give him credit for. I don’t anticipate this being the most exciting bout, but fans have already paid their $60 by this point, so that doesn’t matter too much.
Valentina Shevchenko was able to win her last fight against Sarah Kaufmann because she was the physically superior athlete. That advantage will be taken away from her against Amanda Nunes, so we’ll see how technically gifted the Kyrgyzstanian is. Nunes will still be the more dangerous submission artist, and will have more finishing power in her strikes, but she hasn’t proven to be a round winner yet. Shevchenko showed good instincts to overcome a top 10 opponent on incredibly short notice in her UFC debut, so perhaps she can pull this one out as well. I’m torn on this fight because I can see Nunes willing early, or Shevchenko surviving and taking over, so aside from some crazy movement, I’ll sit this one out.
I feel like what happened to Nordine Taleb against Warlley Alves is going to happen again here. Only faster. That isn’t to say that Silva is better than Alves, he’s just better at dispatching these types of opponents, even without whatever he may or may not have been taking earlier in his career.
Things I learned while researching this card: Marcelo Guimarares is still in the UFC. The Brazilian has been in the UFC since 2012, and this is only his fourth fight with the promotion. A pair of split decision wins were sandwiched around a brutal knockout loss to Hyun Gyu Lim, and I think Vitor Miranda will overcome his age once again to stop Guimaraes once again. Miranda has shown some decent wrestling ability to go along with his striking game, and that should be all he needs to strand Guimaraes on the feet.
Elkins/Skelly is just about as grindy as a fight can get, which is strange to say since Chas Skelly has finished in three of his four UFC wins. Both have faltered when faced with fighters who can shut down their grappling, but there aren’t a lot of fighters out there who can do that. In this fight, I think Skelly will find early success as he is more creative in clinch situations, but he’s also prone to tiring, and Elkins can probably win the second half of the bout. I slightly favor Elkins here, but it’s an extremely tough one to call, and I’ll only bet it if the line swings wildly one way or the other.
Diego Sanchez didn’t look bad in his venture down to featherweight (as much as you can say a guy who you expected to get destroyed but instead got beaten up soundly for 15 minutes “looked good”), but there’s no sense in him killing his body to get to a division where he has no future. He doesn’t really have a future at 155 either, as realistically he hasn’t won a fight without the aid of a terrible (not just bad, terrible) decision since UFC 121 against Paulo Thiago back in 2010. Those fights being scored correctly would make him 1-9 in his past 10. Jim Miller is on the downside of his career too, but overall he’s more skilled and I think he has more left in the tank than Diego. Still, I’m not betting against Diego just in case he gets another decision.
Neither of these fighters has competed since 2014, and that makes this fight very difficult to break down. Saggo’s last UFC performance was a valiant effort against Paul Felder, while Salas has been up-and-down against some of the lower tier at 155. I think Saggo wins this, but if he can’t get his grappling going it will be a dull-but-close kickboxing bout.
Julian Erosa is the more well-rounded than Teruto Ishihara, but his weakness lies in his striking defense, and that’s definitely something that Ishihara is equipped to exploit. As long as Erosa can keep the distance, or turn this into a grappling match he’ll be fine, but there’s enough danger there to keep me away from Erosa.
Ilir Latifi should make his cult following happy again after this fight, as he matches up quite well with Gian Villante. Both men are stout wrestlers, and their takedown defense should turn this primarily into a striking battle. On the feet, Villante might be a bit more versatile, but Latifi seems to be both more durable and the harder hitter. At some point, I think he lands on Villante’s chin and ends the New Yorker’s night.
Speaking of guys who have put Villante out, Tom Lawlor faces a much more difficult task this time around, and let’s not forget that he wasn’t doing so well against Villante early either. Corey Anderson should be massive in comparison to the former middleweight, is one of the better wrestlers at 205, and is better on the feet than people give him credit for. I don’t anticipate this being the most exciting bout, but fans have already paid their $60 by this point, so that doesn’t matter too much.
Valentina Shevchenko was able to win her last fight against Sarah Kaufmann because she was the physically superior athlete. That advantage will be taken away from her against Amanda Nunes, so we’ll see how technically gifted the Kyrgyzstanian is. Nunes will still be the more dangerous submission artist, and will have more finishing power in her strikes, but she hasn’t proven to be a round winner yet. Shevchenko showed good instincts to overcome a top 10 opponent on incredibly short notice in her UFC debut, so perhaps she can pull this one out as well. I’m torn on this fight because I can see Nunes willing early, or Shevchenko surviving and taking over, so aside from some crazy movement, I’ll sit this one out.
I feel like what happened to Nordine Taleb against Warlley Alves is going to happen again here. Only faster. That isn’t to say that Silva is better than Alves, he’s just better at dispatching these types of opponents, even without whatever he may or may not have been taking earlier in his career.
Things I learned while researching this card: Marcelo Guimarares is still in the UFC. The Brazilian has been in the UFC since 2012, and this is only his fourth fight with the promotion. A pair of split decision wins were sandwiched around a brutal knockout loss to Hyun Gyu Lim, and I think Vitor Miranda will overcome his age once again to stop Guimaraes once again. Miranda has shown some decent wrestling ability to go along with his striking game, and that should be all he needs to strand Guimaraes on the feet.
Elkins/Skelly is just about as grindy as a fight can get, which is strange to say since Chas Skelly has finished in three of his four UFC wins. Both have faltered when faced with fighters who can shut down their grappling, but there aren’t a lot of fighters out there who can do that. In this fight, I think Skelly will find early success as he is more creative in clinch situations, but he’s also prone to tiring, and Elkins can probably win the second half of the bout. I slightly favor Elkins here, but it’s an extremely tough one to call, and I’ll only bet it if the line swings wildly one way or the other.
Diego Sanchez didn’t look bad in his venture down to featherweight (as much as you can say a guy who you expected to get destroyed but instead got beaten up soundly for 15 minutes “looked good”), but there’s no sense in him killing his body to get to a division where he has no future. He doesn’t really have a future at 155 either, as realistically he hasn’t won a fight without the aid of a terrible (not just bad, terrible) decision since UFC 121 against Paulo Thiago back in 2010. Those fights being scored correctly would make him 1-9 in his past 10. Jim Miller is on the downside of his career too, but overall he’s more skilled and I think he has more left in the tank than Diego. Still, I’m not betting against Diego just in case he gets another decision.
Neither of these fighters has competed since 2014, and that makes this fight very difficult to break down. Saggo’s last UFC performance was a valiant effort against Paul Felder, while Salas has been up-and-down against some of the lower tier at 155. I think Saggo wins this, but if he can’t get his grappling going it will be a dull-but-close kickboxing bout.
Julian Erosa is the more well-rounded than Teruto Ishihara, but his weakness lies in his striking defense, and that’s definitely something that Ishihara is equipped to exploit. As long as Erosa can keep the distance, or turn this into a grappling match he’ll be fine, but there’s enough danger there to keep me away from Erosa.
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At 5dimes:
Conor DEC +1115
Conor UD +1625 (Opened and 1450 and jumped to 1625 within minutes
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Diaz DEC +1150
Liking those conor dec lines
The odds on Conor UD and SD are equal... very strange, i think a UD is much more likely.
Conor DEC +1115
Conor UD +1625 (Opened and 1450 and jumped to 1625 within minutes
)Diaz DEC +1150
Liking those conor dec lines
The odds on Conor UD and SD are equal... very strange, i think a UD is much more likely.
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wow crazy jump in price.. adding morealso hit Conor unanimous +1625
Weird how the DEC line jumped from +5xx to +1xxx with no in between
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Weird how the DEC line jumped from +5xx to +1xxx with no in between
haha ya.. wish the fight starts round 1 and 2 ect got the same price bumps.. atm fight starts round 3 pays +130 yet the ov 2,5 is +173 makes no sense lol
edit: i am tired ^^ ofcourse it makes sense that it pays less then ov 2,5 not sure what i was thinking
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Quick odds correction, Conor dec from 1115 to 905 and UD form 1625 to 1300. Gratz to those who caught both lines at the sweet spot.
Also funny how Conor DEC and Nate DEC were equal for a bit there, they are far from equally likely
Liking the o1 -185
Also funny how Conor DEC and Nate DEC were equal for a bit there, they are far from equally likely
Liking the o1 -185
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Skelly - Elkins likes to grind out decisions, I'll stuff his takedowns, and submission hunting like I always do. Training with Johnny Bedford at fight factory and pat curran is coming to train, training is same old same old.
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