RBR ***OFFICIAL*** Sherdog Sanctioned Wilder vs Fury II PPV RBR 2/22

[MusterX]

Totally outclassed.

Don’t bother with the third fight. 18 rounds, Wilder won 2 or 3 of them.

It was a robbery that Fury didn't get his hand raised in the first fight. He won about 9 of the 12 rounds.

 

[PHATV]

Nah, a lot of people just didn't understand that all I was saying that he got hit with an illegal blow. Like I said, is a low blow illegal, even if its unintentional? Yes or no.

Not if I jab at your sternum or hook to your ribs and you block it down into your own groin.

 

[Seano]

I think the point he was probably alluding to is that if you held that first knockdown in the first fight to the same standards you're holding the first knockdown in this rematch, then you would have been of the opinion that both were illegal.

Most people do not think either were illegal, but being inconsistent in how you appraise the two knockdowns suggests some bias or otherwise an error in thinking.

Why do I care if someone thought Wilder hit Fury with an illegal blow? I don't really recall spending a lot of time discussing it. Did I say the KD shouldn't have counted? Did I say Fury should have been DQ'd?

I said it was an illegal punch. It was.

 

[Someone88]

WOW! Yes! What an amazing fight, tough for Wilder he has a lot of heart he'll be back. That was an amazing performance by Fury, he is the best heavyweight right now. Great win for Fury and congratulations on winning the title!

 

[PHATV]

Holy shit, I was just looking at the first page of the boxing forum. lol

Not a surprise, but still. Why not discuss it here? lol

 

[Seano]

Not if I jab at your sternum or hook to your ribs and you block it down into your own groin.

huh? Its still not a legal blow. If a fighter took a knee for what you described, you think the ref would give him a count or call time?

Again you guys seem to be describing the different fouls. You're right about that, thats just not what I'm saying.

 

[Minowafanatic]

Why do I care if someone thought Wilder hit Fury with an illegal blow? I don't really recall spending a lot of time discussing it. Did I say the KD shouldn't have counted? Did I say Fury should have been DQ'd?

I said it was an illegal punch. It was.

None of those questions you're asking there are relevant to what you quoted, and the last couple are pretty defensive.

It wasn't illegal.

 

[Seano]

None of those questions you're asking there are relevant to what you quoted, and the last couple are pretty defensive.

It wasn't illegal.

I'll ask you too. Fighter goes down to an unintentional low bow. What happens?

 

[PHATV]

huh? Its still not a legal blow. If a fighter took a knee for what you described, you think the fighter would give him a count or call time?

Again you guys seem to be describing the different fouls. You're right about that, thats just not what I'm saying.

You young whippersnappers get out of my yard!!! (That's me not you, BTW---lol)

 

[Seano]

You young whippersnappers get out of my yard!!! (That's me not you, BTW---lol)

What do you think of my low blow example?

 

[Gambit MMA]

Fury now snapped wilder's streak and klitschkos as well

Legendary shit

 

[Minowafanatic]

I'll ask you too. Fighter goes down to an unintentional low bow. What happens?

That's a dumb question. Wilder/Fury's situation is simple, it doesn't need to be reworked as if it's some ethical dilemma in a first year philosophy class. There's nothing to gain from talking about a hypothetical situation that's not even a direct equivalent, when we can just talk about what actually happened.

 

[PHATV]

What do you think of my low blow example?

We'd have to see it happen, but if you got caught square in the nuts and you pushed the blow there or jumped in the air to make it hit there, it's not an opponent hitting you with a low blow. They may or may not give you a break. Ref could ignore it.

 

[Seano]

We'd have to see it happen, but if you got caught square in the nuts and you pushed the blow there or jumped in the air to make it hit there, it's not an opponent hitting you with a low blow. They may or may not give you a break. Ref could ignore it.

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I think you know the ref would stop the action. We've seen a million times the ref stop the action for an unintentional low blow.

 

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[PHATV]

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I think you know the ref would stop the action. We've seen a million times the ref stop the action for an unintentional low blow.

I start counting if you don't continue immediately once you jump to make a blow hit you below the belt. Standing count. You get 10. lol
Wilder turned his head and was flailing his arms like a kid on the playground trying to stave off a beating and it looked like it hit him on the ear to me, making the point moot. Punch was on the way when he turned/flinched/punked and turned. Still hit the ear. Legal blow.

 

[Seano]

That's a dumb question. Wilder/Fury's situation is simple, it doesn't need to be reworked as if it's some ethical dilemma in a first year philosophy class. There's nothing to gain from talking about a hypothetical situation that's not even a direct equivalent, when we can just talk about what actually happened.

I know why you won't answer it and its because its gives the obvious answer that an punch to a no punch zone is illegal whether deliberate or not.

 

[Seano]

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Still looks like a punch from behind to the back of the head to me.

 

[remyaus]

I know why you won't answer it and its because its gives the obvious answer that an punch to a no punch zone is illegal whether deliberate or not.

It's also illegal to turn your back to your opponent. The ref also states very clearly, "Protect yourself at all times". This means you don't block punches with the back of your head.

 

[Seano]

I start counting if you don't continue immediately once you jump to make a blow hit you below the belt. Standing count. You get 10. lol
Wilder turned his head and was flailing his arms like a kid on the playground trying to stave off a beating and it looked like it hit him on the ear to me, making the point moot. Punch was on the way when he turned/flinched/punked and turned. Still hit the ear. Legal blow.

Unintentional illegal blow.