Elections Official Sherdawg Presidential debate round 1 PbP

Who won the debate

  • I plan to vote Biden, and think Biden won

    Votes: 10 5.6%

  • I’m (honestly) undecided, and think Biden won

    Votes: 2 1.1%

  • I plan to vote Trump, and think Biden won

    Votes: 4 2.2%

  • I plan to vote Trump, and think Trump won

    Votes: 97 54.5%

  • I’m (honestly) undecided, and think Trump won

    Votes: 38 21.3%

  • I plan to vote Biden, and think Trump won

    Votes: 27 15.2%
  • Total voters
    178
maximus__ said:
It looks to me like what I have seen with couples married for years and one person hiding it from the rest of the family for as long as possible.
Difference being is he is doing it on the public stage, but he has been a politician his whole life and can cope well when he is the one presenting. You notice it more when it's not him speaking in some ways because he doesn't have anything to focus on and do.

Same thing when dementia patients are moved from their homes into a care facility far away. They manage to somehow get public transport back to the area they are familiar with and you find them seemingly ok in a local cafe or park appearing to be physically fine. Then it progresses and they end up just walking in one direction endlessly because they can never find that familiar area.
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For sure that's some of it. My mom though also had these moments where she'd zone out like that, and the open mouth is what really brought those memories back. I remember when that first started happening, I definitely shed some tears in those early days dealing with it. To be fair, my mom had early onset and a rapidly advancing type so that made it harder. She was only in her 60's.
 
terrapin said:
Jack, you have lost 100% of your credibility. You're an absolute hypocrite. And everything you say even when it's true is also a projection.

You walk around in a permanent state of offense about everything that doesn't agree with you exactly.

I would tend to your own self if I were you.
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OK, I tried to help. I'll give you one bit of advice: Your personal misery is almost certainly connected to the way you treat people and your lack of moral compass. Fix that stuff, and you might be surprised by how things turn around.
 
maximus__ said:
100% I am bias, but I am limited in that in this situation because I can't vote. It doesn't affect me in the slightest. I am not commenting on either of their political policies, just how they are presenting to the public eye. Trump needs a handler in terms of social media, Biden needs one to get through his day to day life. Neither should be in the position they are in regardless of their parties policies.

Blame the voters? Nope, they can vote for whichever idiot they want. Both parties should remove their support for these two as candidates for them. Instead they will support whoever they think will get them the presidency.
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Again, I don't think you realize that voters pick candidates in America. We don't have parties that can make those choices.
 
HereticBD said:
Not really, though. It's just a few dorks in here, who refuse to live in reality

Should be re-titled the "@Jack V Savage and @Islam Imamate Debate Cope Megathread: Bored and Jet Lag Edition"
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IMO not fair to lump them together. At least not when it comes to those #'s. Islam addressed it. Again, I think his view was not accurate (imo he seemed to treat it like it was an approval poll and not a poll asking if the POTUS was mentally fit to have the job) but he did at least respond to it. Jack...he's actually a legit punchline now. I know you've said it's not a recent phenomenon but this is...just crazy. He's just absolutely gone.
 
Jack V Savage said:
OK, I tried to help. I'll give you one bit of advice: Your personal misery is almost certainly connected to the way you treat people and your lack of moral compass. Fix that stuff, and you might be surprised by how things turn around.
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A perfect example of your projection.

That guy that was on full attack mode with me but frankly I read his posts more often than I do yours.

He actually believes the things he says.
 
mkess101 said:
IMO not fair to lump them together. At least not when it comes to those #'s. Islam addressed it. Again, I think his view was not accurate (imo he seemed to treat it like it was an approval poll and not a poll asking if the POTUS was mentally fit to have the job) but he did at least respond to it. Jack...he's actually a legit punchline now. I know you've said it's not a recent phenomenon but this is...just crazy. He's just absolutely gone.
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Nah. He's just slow rolling his lunacy. You can read it in his posts(and the posts he's liked). He's not as bold as Jackie, but the will is strong.

You have a soft heart that gives these snakes too much benefit of the doubt. That's why it took you so long to realize that Jackie is a complete fucking loon, that has no intention of discussing anything in "good faith". They're one in the same.
 
idrankyourbeer's maid said:
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Trump has said this many times at rallies, along with other stories about combating terrorism and these thugs

This encapsulates his diplomatic approach where he gives them respect as a lot of these people are powerful, he treats them with respect and teaches them they better treat America. Remember when he went to North Korea? This guy is a fucking hero for the WORLD







Bless this man. And the powers that be give us Hunter Biden. Congrats Democrats, fuck you

 
cottagecheesefan said:
Trump has said this many times at rallies, along with other stories about combating terrorism and these thugs

This encapsulates his diplomatic approach where he gives them respect as a lot of these people are powerful, he treats them with respect and teaches them they better treat America. Remember when he went to North Korea? This guy is a fucking hero for the WORLD







Bless this man. And the powers that be give us Hunter Biden. Congrats Democrats, fuck you

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Trump was the peacemaker generally speaking
He still had drones in Yemen
 
mkess101 said:
But people age differently. And his cognitive decline is impossible to ignore. It's clearly severe. My MIL is about a year younger than him. Yeah she's aging too. She's never looked like he did during that debate.

There's a difference between "Hey he's not as quick as he was 15 years ago, we all slow down as we age" and "Holy f*cking shit what happened to him? Does he know where he is? Why is he standing there with his mouth agape, staring into space?"

People need to face reality, even when it's sad and hard and makes them feel shitty.
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Ok here's my thoughts on the whole situation.

Pres. Biden had a CRAPTACULAR debate. Period. That being said he's an older man and had a hectic schedule before it. He has an expert team in his cabinet who took the reins and turned the country around. There's no disputing that. Yes, I know that everyone isn't driving a Lambo, but it's better than it was four years ago.

If he wins reelection, he'll look at who worked well and who didn't. He'll bring in more experts as the President doesn't run the nation alone. If Trump wins, the first thing you'll have to do is swear a loyalty oath to HIM. Not to protect and defend the Constitution, but to HIM and him alone. He's already said he'd be a dictator on day one and now he knows how the buttons work.

I'm willing to vote for someone who'll have experts around them than worshippers, even if that person's head is floating in a jar Futurama style.


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idrankyourbeer's maid said:
Trump was the peacemaker generally speaking
He still had drones in Yemen
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Yemen, which is now being supplied by Iran, Russia, maybe China? To conduct attacks in the Red Sea.

Can’t fault Trump for both Obama and now Biden’s mess for funding Iran and its proxies. He has to come and clean it up, just as he did under his first administration.

Only problem is Biden left 80 billion of arms in the region, why is that? Was this Qatar donors? Think about it
 
terrapin said:
A perfect example of your projection.

That guy that was on full attack mode with me but frankly I read his posts more often than I do yours.

He actually believes the things he says.
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I think he's a partisan troll, but that's fine. I don't bother arguing with those guys or even reading their posts. Similarly, I don't try to add to your issues. I'm really just trying to help you. I know you mentioned that you're in a cult too. That never seems to work out.
 
Jack V Savage said:
I think he's a partisan troll, but that's fine. I don't bother arguing with those guys or even reading their posts. Similarly, I don't try to add to your issues. I'm really just trying to help you. I know you mentioned that you're in a cult too. That never seems to work out.
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All you ever do is lie. You're lying has become so blatant that everyone on this site as far as I can tell has lost all respect for you.

I genuinely feel sorry for you man.

And talking with you is lowering my state of being and so I'm going to now back out and not waste any more time on this petty discussion.
 
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