Judo Official Judo Thread

FEDORER said:
I suggest that you do some more research. Ono was 19 in 2011 and he won the junior world championship that year.
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You are correct, Judobase's record didn't specify his place in Cape Town, as if he failed. Still, Riner's wining streak covers all of Ono's career. He is only three years older and has one olympic gold and bronze and six world gold more than him. There's nothing ludicrous about saying that Riner's domination spans wider than Ono's.
 
Rvd Slmr said:
You are correct, Judobase's record didn't specify his place in Cape Town, as if he failed. Still, Riner's wining streak covers all of Ono's career. He is only three years older and has one olympic gold and bronze and six world gold more than him. There's nothing ludicrous about saying that Riner's domination spans wider than Ono's.
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His domination is in the weakest division. The depth in the heavyweight category is embarrasing outside of Harasawa and Sasson. In addition, Riner doesn't fight in many tournaments he tends to avoid the Tokyo Grand Slam (formerly known as Kano cup) and hasn't fought in Japan since his last loss in 2010. As we saw today Riner doesn't like mobile heavyweights, he relies on his physical strength to annoy them with his kumi-kata.

As of today I believe that Yasuhiro Yamashita is still the greatest judo player of all time, Kosei Inoue is number 2. Ono will probably join them in the near future.
 
Anyone have the gif of El Shehaby getting ippon'd while crying about a refs call?
 
I've watched several Ono's videos, he is the best technician today among japanese.
He won several international tournaments, several national championships; won the silver medal in the 2012 Asian championships; 2014 World team champion, two times world champion and now Olympic champion.
He is just 24 years old, 1,73 cm tall, weighs 73 kg and he holds a 4th degree black belt.
I've also heard, next years (2017/2018) IJF might change rules again...
 
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Had the day off, watched the heavies....disappointed, should have known better....more disappoint
 
how the fuck do you get hansokumaked on shidos AT THE OLYMPICS?
 
RJ Green said:
how the fuck do you get hansokumaked on shidos AT THE OLYMPICS?
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What do you tell your kids. "Yeah I fought in the Olympics. How'd I lose? I got disqualified for running away and attempting to avoid combat four times in a row. Was pretty much a badass, I left everything I had all out on the mats."
 
How good is Ono's ground game? He could be something in MMA as a LW.
 
I feel slightly frustrated after training with an overweight yellow belt. We were doing O ouchi gari nagekomi but due to the fact that he was much bigger, gave me resistance because he was uncomfortable falling , and my technique is sloppy, I ended up doing uchi komi while he did nage komi. It felt odd because he is way bigger than me and lacked control to throw me properly. When I train with the few people smaller than me, ( who are women) I do uchi komi.

Of course when it comes to randori I can throw people my size and skill level. I have come to realize this is common in judo and what makes it so difficult to learn.
 
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Thycidides said:
and my technique is sloppy
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here's your problem, Padawan. them not wanting to be thrown doesn't matter. their cooperation exists so as to not hurt themselves. people who don't cooperate during nagekomi should be taught to cooperate. with osotogari.
 
RJ Green said:
here's your problem, Padawan. them not wanting to be thrown doesn't matter. their cooperation exists so as to not hurt themselves. people who don't cooperate during nagekomi should be taught to cooperate. with osotogari.
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Yeah. The secret to learning to fall is to fall a lot. The answer is not to not throw that person. Throw them until they become comfortable falling. If they never get comfortable, Judo might not be for them. Taking falls is part of being good at Judo.
 
^ amen to that. I still think falling is the most valuable thing you learn in Judo and should be the focus of most beginner training. You can't practice safely or comfortably without wanting to fall and being okay with it.

Plus really, it's the only worthwhile thing a beginner is going to retain. It's very easy to avoid most situations where you're gonna need to hip toss or armbar a bitch. Everybody falls down. It makes stupid shit like motorcycling and alpine sports so much safer and accessible, or if you're a dipshit like me erodes another shell of my 'OH FUCK NO' sense of self-preservation.

At the very least you learn to not stick your arm out and tuck your bob damn chin, you know?
 
Thycidides said:
I feel slightly frustrated after training with an overweight yellow belt. We were doing O ouchi gari nagekomi but due to the fact that he was much bigger, gave me resistance because he was uncomfortable falling , and my technique is sloppy, I ended up doing uchi komi while he did nage komi. It felt odd because he is way bigger than me and lacked control to throw me properly. When I train with the few people smaller than me, ( who are women) I do uchi komi.

Of course when it comes to randori I can throw people my size and skill level. I have come to realize this is common in judo and what makes it so difficult to learn.
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Not sure what to tell you. I remember being in those situations as a beginner. Nowadays I can just throw a bad partner regardless of what they do, but it's not so practical when you are inexperienced and smaller.

Maybe the better man would just ask him to cooperate? And if he doesn't, just say you want to train with someone else.

Edit: I remember one fat dummy who kept blocking okuri ashi barai nagekomi, while I politely took the fall still trying to be the better man. Not only did he remain selfish, the fat fuck also wore a sweatshirt under his gi, probably think he'll lose weight that way (nope). So the fat fuck was sweaty, and as I politely took the fall one of his sweat balls drops directly in my eye. I wish I osoto'd the fuck out of him.
 
Well part of my frustration is my coach tends to prefer uchi komi training to nage komi. Also we have a very small class compared to the BJJ program and I think he is afraid of driving people away. The BJJ program is big but not many people also want to do judo because they think it hurts.

Honestly there are more people in the Mauy Thai program than judo.
 
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Thycidides said:
Well part of my frustration is my coach tends to prefer uchi komi training to nage komi. Also we have a very small class compared to the BJJ program and I think he is afraid of driving people away. The BJJ program is big but not many people also want to do judo because they think it hurts.

Honestly there are more people in the Mauy Thai program than judo.
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I think beginners should use a crash mat rather than uchikomi, but if you don't have one, try lifting for the finish but not throwing. It's a lot harder work, but at least it gives you some feedback about your throw.
 
Beginners have little use of doing uchi komi, ukemi and basic nage waza should be main focus.
 
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