Official Judo Thread VIII

I would like to learn Oly-type lifting some day, potentially, but it sure as heck isn't going to be in my garage.

Fitting time for a /Sir/ comic.

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Zankou said:
Yeah it's ironic I was just about to post a thread in S&C asking how to do this. I don't want to join a gym, but I'd like to do a couple private training sessions from somebody who knows what they are doing, and can help me at least get the basic form somewhat decent. So how to set such sessions up?

My squat form is terrible, I can already tell this. Deadlifting I seem to be better.
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Find a gym that caters to powerlifters. Call the desk and ask who the best coaches are. Pay them to teach you. You're in SoCal, right? I can't imagine there aren't several legit powerlifting gyms within a 25 mile radius of you. Do an initial session or two, and then maybe a month later do a checkup on your form. Most gyms won't make you join if you're paying a trainer who works there regularly and aren't coming very often.
 
You could also post a form check in F13. I'm a self taught lifter using videos and form checks and while my technique isn't great, it's acceptable. Plus we need more judoka in the training logs.
 
@DYK2: I'm starting to really get that eri seoi > ko uchi down.

@JTB: I think I'm making progress with sode, at least in uchi/nagekomi. I'm not a big sleeve gripper though, so I doubt I'll be trying it in randori anytime soon. When I actually get really good at it, I'll let you know lol. That dan at my club I was telling you about does a lot of sodeish things with those sleeve grips. He even does a sort of kata guruma/sode hybrid.
 
Zankou said:
Yeah it's ironic I was just about to post a thread in S&C asking how to do this. I don't want to join a gym, but I'd like to do a couple private training sessions from somebody who knows what they are doing, and can help me at least get the basic form somewhat decent. So how to set such sessions up?

My squat form is terrible, I can already tell this. Deadlifting I seem to be better.
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I taught myself how to squat and deadlift. It took a while, but given the compliments I get from the powerlifters and old-school BBers who I occasionally run into, I'd say I'm doing alright.

I started by reading Starting Strength and just did exactly what Rippetoe said.

Then I branched out and learned more by watching a fuck-ton of deadlift/squat videos and continuing to read form stuff online.

The best videos for squatting/deadlifting are probably the "So you think you can squat/deadlift" videos. Look them up.

At the end of the day though, you just need to keep squatting and deadlifting. Remember that they're movement patterns and that it takes a while to ingrain proper movement. Even a bad squat is better than no squatting at all. You get to continually tweak your form that way.

Just keep it reasonably light and don't be afraid. And pay a great deal of attention to how your body is moving and how it feels.

Basically, squatting and deadlifting is just like learning a new throw. You need to continue to do it over and over and feel your way into whatever works for you.
 
the bar i work at is in an old saloon hotel from the 1850s and the staircase to the second floor is metal and outside. i've been carrying cases of wine and beer and fruit and blocks of ice up and down those godforsaken stairs for a few months now. all of the bottled beer, chilled wine, and backup juices are in lowboys so i do lots of squats and lunges out of necessity.

i had to buy 34 x 34 jeans the last time i shopped because i couldn't fit my thighs in a 32, even though my waist is a 31.

also, my 'notatabata' workout:

circuit 1: pushups, upright rows, cleans, pullups, rest
circuit 2: forward lunges, thrusters, zercher squats, backward lunges, rest

15 seconds per exercise, max good form reps, 135#, 5 times through.

might be a good starter before you go heavy.

i also do a 5 x 350 deadlift every time i change the laundry.

when it gets nice out i'm fittin to get a keg full of water and do some tosses. i've also got a line on a 700# tire so this should be a pretty productive summer!
 
Zankou said:
It always amazes me how older judoka are so good at avoiding the kuzushi and then just gracefully step around the inevitable frustrated kuzushi-less throw attempt that I follow up with.

That's real judo.
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self-aggrandizing time! i found this from a tournament like 5 years ago. this whole match is muscle memory.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=671235681320&set=t.16904158&type=3&theater

watch my face as soon as he's considered starting his seoi nage. i've already decided he's going to do that, realized he hasn't gotten me off balance, and started a counter throw all as soon as my expression changes.
 
RJ Green said:
self-aggrandizing time! i found this from a tournament like 5 years ago. this whole match is muscle memory.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=671235681320&set=t.16904158&type=3&theater

watch my face as soon as he's considered starting his seoi nage. i've already decided he's going to do that, realized he hasn't gotten me off balance, and started a counter throw all as soon as my expression changes.
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I wasn't able to access the page. Do you have your privacy setting to friends only?
 
Yeah, I can't access it either.



Okay, after working on some drop seoi nages, I've come to the conclusion of fuck them. I'm confirmed only going to do the super squat drop just to get my legs stronger. I don't even lift, so I try to supplement some S&C in my normal routine.
 
Ippy said:
Yeah, I can't access it either.



Okay, after working on some drop seoi nages, I've come to the conclusion of fuck them. I'm confirmed only going to do the super squat drop just to get my legs stronger. I don't even lift, so I try to supplement some S&C in my normal routine.
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We do a warm up sometimes where it's the squat seoi nage then you roll your partner as you go down the mat then they get up and do the same.

I asked my bjj instructor about the bjj comp and got told to enter as blue. He said I'd do fine at blue. I need to work on a couple of guard passes before then.
 
you sons of bitches insisted I inherit the mantle. first dub in seven years.

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Zankou said:
In the meantime, I am slowly trying to pick up weight lifting in my garage, like so many others with a copy of Starting Strength and a power rack.
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With all my respect to the F13 guys, but I have yet to see any trainer there, who have actually worked with national wrestling/ judo/ sambo teams for their SnC preparation.
The only advice you will get there would be SS, Big 3 and etc.
Nothing bad about the big 3, but taking powerlifting for your judo/ bjj preparation is not the best option.
I would suggest 1 main lift per day, followed by ballistic exercises with DB, KB, BB or wrestling dummy. Do things, that actually translate into your main sport.
And as much as the proper form is important to prevent injuries, ass to the grass squat just doesnt happen in grappling.
Do combination of static and dynamic exercises for the muscle groups you use in grappling.
In judo you will have a lot of upper body twisting, pulling, driving, neck use and the most important for gi sports- grip strength (no, DL grip is not helping, because the barbell doesnt change angle)...
 
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