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What char class are you (or planning on) maining?


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That's what I was really getting at. What more are you looking for?. They showed you all the playable characters, the beginning of the game, how it plays, how you level up, some of the moves, you got to fights a boss or two, find decent gear, general feel of the open world, PVP is back.

You want to see all the end game gear in action? Some top end builds? Final bosses fights? What part of the end game exactly are you looking for?

What does "They needed something like maps" mean???

You don't know what maps means?
 
I didn't like it. I like the system they have setup here for PVP a lot more. If your defending D2 end game content what's the issue with D4?

~25 years and poe being the standard now?

although, actually having pvp already makes it better than diablow 3, i guess.
 
My buddy who use to play D2 said the Necro was trash for PvP because ones they got through your minions you were don’t for. Don’t know if that’s true or both but I found it hilarious.
 
You don't know what maps means?

I didn't get the chance to play the open BETA (both weekends) so i have no idea what you are referring to (lack of maps, need an interactive map, what?).
I've watched a few videos and I love what I am seeing so far. A buddy (who I played D3 with) informed me that he loved the Beta and was hooked. His best friend also tried it and is semi-addicted. Another relative tried it and is also all-in so my team of Diablo friends have given the approval based on limited playing so far.
 
I didn't get the chance to play the open BETA (both weekends) so i have no idea what you are referring to (lack of maps, need an interactive map, what?).
I've watched a few videos and I love what I am seeing so far. A buddy (who I played D3 with) informed me that he loved the Beta and was hooked. His best friend also tried it and is semi-addicted. Another relative tried it and is also all-in so my team of Diablo friends have given the approval based on limited playing so far.

‘Maps’ is the end game mechanic in POE

 
My buddy who use to play D2 said the Necro was trash for PvP because ones they got through your minions you were don’t for. Don’t know if that’s true or both but I found it hilarious.

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nah, necros were pretty stronk. not minions, but bone spear/spirit.

and even minions versus pk could be ok with a few tricks.
 
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nah, necros were pretty stronk. not minions, but bone spear/spirit.

and even minions versus pk could be ok with a few tricks.

I could be misremembering as it’s been like 21 years since I last did PvP in D2 with a necro, but couldn’t you absolutely ruin a whirlwind barb’s day with the iron maiden curse? Like if he hit one of your minions he’d end up beating himself into a living death?
 
I could be misremembering as it’s been like 21 years since I last did PvP in D2 with a necro, but couldn’t you absolutely ruin a whirlwind barb’s day with the iron maiden curse? Like if he hit one of your minions he’d end up beating himself into a living death?

there were balance shanges with iron maiden/thorns, but yeah.

that's kind of what i meant re: vs pk. the necro/merc had pvp scaling but the minions didn't (or had partial, don't remember), but yeah. so with positioning/tele/etc, you could try to force the player to hit minions. it was obviously rock-paper-scissory, and wasn't viable in duels, but tended to do well enough vs pk.

on a related note, bramble was underrated
 
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there were balance shanges with iron maiden/thorns, but yeah.

that's kind of what i meant re: vs pk. the necro/merc had pvp scaling but the minions didn't (or had partial, don't remember), but yeah. so with positioning/tele/etc, you could try to force the player to hit minions. it was obviously rock-paper-scissory, and wasn't viable in duels, but tended to do well enough vs pk.

on a related note, bramble was underrated

Yeah, the necro was my starting class on release of D2 in July 2000 and a lot of things changed in subsequent patches. On release you could just combine iron maiden + blood golem and it was basically GG literally until Diablo at the end of Act IV who would just melt my minions with his pink lightning.

I never knew that IM+BG exploit (if you want to call it an exploit) was later nerfed/patched out so imagine my surprise when I played D2:R in 2021 and Duriel two shotted my blood golem while barely giving himself a scratch :confused:
 
My buddy who use to play D2 said the Necro was trash for PvP because ones they got through your minions you were don’t for. Don’t know if that’s true or both but I found it hilarious.

when I played it, pvp was strictly barb / sorc / amazon with full damage reduction and high leech

everything else was a second class citizen, necro's thought they were hot but could not compare

the bone spirit spammers always get wrecked by the top dogs

there was the odd tricked out necro or druid who could kill the badly played barbs but it was straight up unfair when they met a good barb / sorc / amazon
 
when I played it, pvp was strictly barb / sorc / amazon with full damage reduction and high leech

everything else was a second class citizen, necro's thought they were hot but could not compare

the bone spirit spammers always get wrecked by the top dogs

there was the odd tricked out necro or druid who could kill the badly played barbs but it was straight up unfair when they met a good barb / sorc / amazon

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at first, i thought you were talking about a way old version but then you mentioned druid, so... wat?

hammerdins were always around (imo, the most garbage of play and boring af, also) and trappers/necros were toward the top.
 
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at first, i thought you were talking about a way old version but then you mentioned druid, so... wat?

hammerdins were always around (imo, the most garbage of play and boring af, also) and trappers/necros were toward the top.

it was lod in the old days (1.08 and 1.09), when dupes were everywhere and those ITH rune weapons were around

at that point hammerdins had fallen off hard for lvl 94-99 pvp

barb sorc zon outscaled everything else and everyone had 75% damage reduction
 
Speculation that there may be more beta testing on the way, or possibly an earlier release.
 
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