Elections NYC mayoral race

Islam Imamate said:
No that's wrong, that approach usually fails and leads to wasted public funds if you don't get rid of the fundamental issue of red tape.
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He's doing both. Apart from building more public housing, he recognizes the need to streamline permits and cut red tape for the private sector:

  • Zohran will increase staffing levels for financial closing and project management in construction and renovation pipelines to move projects forward more quickly. By increasing the number of people who work at HPD, DCP, and especially NYCHA, we’ll increase the City’s ability to ensure housing gets preserved and built.
  • Fast-track planning review. Any project that commits to the administration’s affordability, stabilization, union labor, and sustainability goals will be expedited through land use review.
www.zohranfornyc.com

Zohran for NYC

Zohran Mamdani is running for Mayor to lower the cost of living for working class New Yorkers.
www.zohranfornyc.com www.zohranfornyc.com


 
Siver! said:
You make housing more affordable by building the right kind of housing, which almost always requires subsidies and assistance from public funds.

Private money alone has never and will never help. It's a fantasy. All private money wants is to exploit and enrich itself, ultimately driving up prices by - as we found in England - lowering pay, increasing debt, and widening the net of debt.

Affordable housing, at this point, is going to mean someone, somewhere, can't profit the way they do right now. This is going to require new means entirely, and the free market does not benefit from that.
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Around here the government has started building housing and subsidizing the rent for low income people. The US needs that. People with safe and secure housing will contribute more to the economy when they aren't worrying about where they'll sleep that night or where their next meal will come from.
 
Some of this dem voters I guess not surprised he won

 
Siver! said:
But you can get rid of some red tape - it won't solve anything if the developers choose to create more expensive housing.
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Wrong, new housing supply helps even if it's expensive because it can create vacancies in existing units
Siver! said:
We don't need more housing for those already on the property ladder. We need (and I'm assuming America also needs) homes for first time buyers - and a ton of them. The best this will achieve is to slow prices, because every home owner in the country will fight tooth and nail to ensure their own investments aren't affected.

However without regulation telling developers what to build, nothing will change. We don't need large 3 bed detached houses. Where I live, that's all they're interested in building - free market they'd build more, to no avail.
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We need more housing in general and we need to make it easier to build all kinds of housing.

We've tried the idiotic NIMBY approach of strangling housing supply, time to try something that might actually work.
Possum Jenkins said:
He's doing both. Apart from building more public housing, he recognizes the need to streamline permits and cut red tape for the private sector:

  • Zohran will increase staffing levels for financial closing and project management in construction and renovation pipelines to move projects forward more quickly. By increasing the number of people who work at HPD, DCP, and especially NYCHA, we’ll increase the City’s ability to ensure housing gets preserved and built.
  • Fast-track planning review. Any project that commits to the administration’s affordability, stabilization, union labor, and sustainability goals will be expedited through land use review.
www.zohranfornyc.com

Zohran for NYC

Zohran Mamdani is running for Mayor to lower the cost of living for working class New Yorkers.
www.zohranfornyc.com www.zohranfornyc.com


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I don't like the idea of requiring union labor and affordability standards, that's exactly the kind of red tape that has choked housing supply, but if he at least acknowledges and addresses some of those issues that's good. I really like the idea of increasing city staffing in areas relevant to construction to smoothen out projects.

Overall it's a mixed bag for me.
 
Islam Imamate said:
I don't like the idea of requiring union labor and affordability standards, that's exactly the kind of red tape that has choked housing supply, but if he at least acknowledges and addresses some of those issues that's good. I really like the idea of increasing city staffing in areas relevant to construction to smoothen out projects.

Overall it's a mixed bag for me.
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He definitely acknowledges gov't red tape and even brings it up himself in this clip (as opposed to answering something that the interviewer brings up)

Starts at 15:15



Bonus at 19:58: "you have to make it easier for the private sector to also build"

Worst. Maoist. Ever.
 
Possum Jenkins said:
He definitely acknowledges gov't red tape and even brings it up himself in this clip (as opposed to answering something that the interviewer brings up)

Starts at 15:15



Bonus at 19:58: "you have to make it easier for the private sector to also build"

Worst. Maoist. Ever.
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You're just like the Trumpers. You're wading through a swamp filled with shit, just to find something positive and that's what you focus on, instead of the diarrhea you're surrounded with.
 
Possum Jenkins said:
He definitely acknowledges gov't red tape and even brings it up himself in this clip (as opposed to answering something that the interviewer brings up)

Starts at 15:15



Bonus at 19:58: "you have to make it easier for the private sector to also build"

Worst. Maoist. Ever.
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He also did a podcast with Derek Thompson who co-wrote Abundance with Ezra Klein which is all about the significance of red tape in holding back infrastructure and housing. Imo his signature policies are dubious at best but the man himself seems pragmatic and flexible so In holding out hope that he can have a successful administration. One point that I've thought of a lot lately in regards to how poorly regarded the Democrats are is that I think the national party gets blamed for poor governance at the state and local level sonce most are largely uninterested in and ignorant of local politics. Mamdani being as visible as he is and having won one of the few local offices with national visibility won't be able to avoid accountability like that and certainly it doesn't seem party leaders are invested in his brand so he's gonna sink or swim on his own merits.
 
Possum Jenkins said:
He definitely acknowledges gov't red tape and even brings it up himself in this clip (as opposed to answering something that the interviewer brings up)

Starts at 15:15



Bonus at 19:58: "you have to make it easier for the private sector to also build"

Worst. Maoist. Ever.
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Which is why I don't believe he is what he posed as. I think there's too many contradictions with him. We will see though.
 
F1980 said:
You're just like the Trumpers. You're wading through a swamp filled with shit, just to find something positive and that's what you focus on, instead of the diarrhea you're surrounded with.
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Trump's been in power for a combined 5 years so there's tons of diarrhea to go through.

Mamdani has 0 days in power. No diarrhea, we're all just speculating.
 
Islam Imamate said:
He also did a podcast with Derek Thompson who co-wrote Abundance with Ezra Klein which is all about the significance of red tape in holding back infrastructure and housing. Imo his signature policies are dubious at best but the man himself seems pragmatic and flexible so In holding out hope that he can have a successful administration. One point that I've thought of a lot lately in regards to how poorly regarded the Democrats are is that I think the national party gets blamed for poor governance at the state and local level sonce most are largely uninterested in and ignorant of local politics. Mamdani being as visible as he is and having won one of the few local offices with national visibility won't be able to avoid accountability like that and certainly it doesn't seem party leaders are invested in his brand so he's gonna sink or swim on his own merits.
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True, but a the same time, I think he's raising the profile of the progressive wing of the Democrats.

Schumer, Pelosi, and the old-school, establishment Dems are getting more scrutiny than ever. Hochul endorsing Mamdani is pretty significant, IMO.
 
I keep forgetting he's an Arsenal fan, haha. My man.
 
The_Renaissance said:
Which is why I don't believe he is what he posed as. I think there's too many contradictions with him. We will see though.
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Two huge factors at play here, m8: The right wing hysteria towards him and the massive difference between American and European politics.

The American right branded him as a mix of Bin Laden and Mao so of course you're gonna come in expecting outrageous shit.

But if you actually listen to his proposals and interviews, you quickly realize that he didn't pose as anything and just advocated for moderate tax distribution, increased social services, . In the US, this puts you on the far left, "democratic socialist" area. But for Europe they're very standard, mainstream positions.
 
Islam Imamate said:
What, you think he's engaging in taqqiya or something?
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No. He's engaging in pie in the sky leftist politics, that will see him at Brandon Johnson levels of support in short order. Much like the rest of these clowns without a clue on how economics work, he'll spend like a socialist, and not deliver a damn thing except for higher taxes for the people that voted for him.
 
Possum Jenkins said:
He's doing both. Apart from building more public housing, he recognizes the need to streamline permits and cut red tape for the private sector:

  • Zohran will increase staffing levels for financial closing and project management in construction and renovation pipelines to move projects forward more quickly. By increasing the number of people who work at HPD, DCP, and especially NYCHA, we’ll increase the City’s ability to ensure housing gets preserved and built.
  • Fast-track planning review. Any project that commits to the administration’s affordability, stabilization, union labor, and sustainability goals will be expedited through land use review.
www.zohranfornyc.com

Zohran for NYC

Zohran Mamdani is running for Mayor to lower the cost of living for working class New Yorkers.
www.zohranfornyc.com www.zohranfornyc.com


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  • the administration’s affordability, stabilization, union labor, and sustainability goals

^^^ that section is doing a lot of work in the sentence
 
Based.

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Possum Jenkins said:
Two huge factors at play here, m8: The right wing hysteria towards him and the massive difference between American and European politics.

The American right branded him as a mix of Bin Laden and Mao so of course you're gonna come in expecting outrageous shit.

But if you actually listen to his proposals and interviews, you quickly realize that he didn't pose as anything and just advocated for moderate tax distribution, increased social services, . In the US, this puts you on the far left, "democratic socialist" area. But for Europe they're very standard, mainstream positions.
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That's not accurate though. Europe doesn't have government owned grocery stores, and they do not rely on a small number of taxpayers to fund everything. Get real, nobody was actually excited about anything he offered because most of them don't even apply to the people who voted for him, they were just excited that he said someone else will pay for it.

He's a mayor ffs and doesn't have the authority to raise taxes, and even if he did, they do not have the same trap mechanism in place. Europe's tax burden is more evenly spread, so huge percentage points of the population would have to flee their entire country to mess up the tax base, and even that wouldn't work because the neighboring countries probably don't have it much better. NYC would just need a handful of people to decide it's a better deal to have a 30 minute commute and leave the city for the tax base to crumble.
 
HereticBD said:
No. He's engaging in pie in the sky leftist politics, that will see him at Brandon Johnson levels of support in short order. Much like the rest of these clowns without a clue on how economics work, he'll spend like a socialist, and not deliver a damn thing except for higher taxes for the people that voted for him.
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This is what I expect, but we’ll see soon enough.
 
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