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Elections NYC mayoral race

What, you think he's engaging in taqqiya or something?
No. He's engaging in pie in the sky leftist politics, that will see him at Brandon Johnson levels of support in short order. Much like the rest of these clowns without a clue on how economics work, he'll spend like a socialist, and not deliver a damn thing except for higher taxes for the people that voted for him.
 
He's doing both. Apart from building more public housing, he recognizes the need to streamline permits and cut red tape for the private sector:

  • Zohran will increase staffing levels for financial closing and project management in construction and renovation pipelines to move projects forward more quickly. By increasing the number of people who work at HPD, DCP, and especially NYCHA, we’ll increase the City’s ability to ensure housing gets preserved and built.
  • Fast-track planning review. Any project that commits to the administration’s affordability, stabilization, union labor, and sustainability goals will be expedited through land use review.



  • the administration’s affordability, stabilization, union labor, and sustainability goals

^^^ that section is doing a lot of work in the sentence
 
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Two huge factors at play here, m8: The right wing hysteria towards him and the massive difference between American and European politics.

The American right branded him as a mix of Bin Laden and Mao so of course you're gonna come in expecting outrageous shit.

But if you actually listen to his proposals and interviews, you quickly realize that he didn't pose as anything and just advocated for moderate tax distribution, increased social services, . In the US, this puts you on the far left, "democratic socialist" area. But for Europe they're very standard, mainstream positions.
That's not accurate though. Europe doesn't have government owned grocery stores, and they do not rely on a small number of taxpayers to fund everything. Get real, nobody was actually excited about anything he offered because most of them don't even apply to the people who voted for him, they were just excited that he said someone else will pay for it.

He's a mayor ffs and doesn't have the authority to raise taxes, and even if he did, they do not have the same trap mechanism in place. Europe's tax burden is more evenly spread, so huge percentage points of the population would have to flee their entire country to mess up the tax base, and even that wouldn't work because the neighboring countries probably don't have it much better. NYC would just need a handful of people to decide it's a better deal to have a 30 minute commute and leave the city for the tax base to crumble.
 
No. He's engaging in pie in the sky leftist politics, that will see him at Brandon Johnson levels of support in short order. Much like the rest of these clowns without a clue on how economics work, he'll spend like a socialist, and not deliver a damn thing except for higher taxes for the people that voted for him.
This is what I expect, but we’ll see soon enough.
 
That's not accurate though. Europe doesn't have government owned grocery stores, and they do not rely on a small number of taxpayers to fund everything. Get real, nobody was actually excited about anything he offered because most of them don't even apply to the people who voted for him, they were just excited that he said someone else will pay for it.

He's a mayor ffs and doesn't have the authority to raise taxes, and even if he did, they do not have the same trap mechanism in place. Europe's tax burden is more evenly spread, so huge percentage points of the population would have to flee their entire country to mess up the tax base, and even that wouldn't work because the neighboring countries probably don't have it much better. NYC would just need a handful of people to decide it's a better deal to have a 30 minute commute and leave the city for the tax base to crumble.

Well yeah, Europe's tax burden is more spread out because its wealth is more spread out. The US is the most unequal society among developed nations. And city-run grocery stores is probably the most unusual policy but Istanbul has had it. All his other proposals are very common throughout the EU.

“Normal. That’s the word,” Verbeek wrote in his newsletter, The Planet. “Here, taking care of one another through public programs isn’t radical socialism. It’s Tuesday.”

That view hit on the wide differences in how Mamdani’s promises are seen by many across the Atlantic. “Europeans recognize his vision about free public transit and universal childcare. We expect our governments to make these kinds of services accessible to all of us,” said Verbeek. “We pay higher taxes and get civilized societies in return. The debate here isn’t whether to have these programs, but how to improve them.”





And yeah, a radical takeover of businesses would prompt capital to flee but that's not what's happening. Many of his proposals are common in northeastern states.


The proposal, according to Mamdani’s revenue plan, is similar to Massachusetts’s 4 percent surtax on individual income that exceeds $1 million, which was approved by voters in the state’s 2022 election. Revenue from the surtax is directed to transportation and education measures.


According to a preliminary estimate from the Massachusetts Department of Revenue in August, the state collected nearly $3 billion in surtax revenue for fiscal 2025.


Mamdani would advocate for the state’s top corporate tax rate to increase from 7.25 percent to 11.5 percent, the same top marginal rate as neighboring New Jersey, estimated to generate approximately $5 billion annually.



Only the most miserly pieces of shit would flee because of a slight increase in taxes. The risk is worth it.
 
Well yeah, Europe's tax burden is more spread out because its wealth is more spread out. The US is the most unequal society among developed nations. And city-run grocery stores is probably the most unusual policy but Istanbul has had it. All his other proposals are very common throughout the EU.

“Normal. That’s the word,” Verbeek wrote in his newsletter, The Planet. “Here, taking care of one another through public programs isn’t radical socialism. It’s Tuesday.”

That view hit on the wide differences in how Mamdani’s promises are seen by many across the Atlantic. “Europeans recognize his vision about free public transit and universal childcare. We expect our governments to make these kinds of services accessible to all of us,” said Verbeek. “We pay higher taxes and get civilized societies in return. The debate here isn’t whether to have these programs, but how to improve them.”





And yeah, a radical takeover of businesses would prompt capital to flee but that's not what's happening. Many of his proposals are common in northeastern states.


The proposal, according to Mamdani’s revenue plan, is similar to Massachusetts’s 4 percent surtax on individual income that exceeds $1 million, which was approved by voters in the state’s 2022 election. Revenue from the surtax is directed to transportation and education measures.


According to a preliminary estimate from the Massachusetts Department of Revenue in August, the state collected nearly $3 billion in surtax revenue for fiscal 2025.


Mamdani would advocate for the state’s top corporate tax rate to increase from 7.25 percent to 11.5 percent, the same top marginal rate as neighboring New Jersey, estimated to generate approximately $5 billion annually.



Only the most miserly pieces of shit would flee because of a slight increase in taxes. The risk is worth it.
No, it's really not worth it, because they don’t just lose the increase, they lose what they were already paying too.

Europe does not have the massive gap in what percentages each income group pay compared to their share of the income.

And again, the people who voted for Mamdani are not the people these programs apply to. The girls who voted for him don't even have kids, probably don't pay their own rent and don't even live there long term.

If it was the programs that were so great, and that's what people were voting for, surely they would also have voted for it if it was their own taxes going up, but we both know there is 0 chance they would have, because nobody whose taxes he wants to raise did vote for him. It's young girls who are willing to experiment as long as it's not their money, and can just leave if it falls apart
 
No, it's really not worth it, because they don’t just lose the increase, they lose what they were already paying too.

Europe does not have the massive gap in what percentages each income group pay compared to their share of the income.

And again, the people who voted for Mamdani are not the people these programs apply to. The girls who voted for him don't even have kids, probably don't pay their own rent and don't even live there long term.

If it was the programs that were so great, and that's what people were voting for, surely they would also have voted for it if it was their own taxes going up, but we both know there is 0 chance they would have, because nobody whose taxes he wants to raise did vote for him. It's young girls who are willing to experiment as long as it's not their money, and can just leave if it falls apart

I said the risk is worth it. I think the chance is very small that a significant number of people are going to leave NY because a tax increase that's in line with neighboring states' is in place.

All the other stuff about who voted for him and who would or wouldn't still vote for him if X, Y, and Z was in place is irrelevant.
 
I said the risk is worth it. I think the chance is very small that a significant number of people are going to leave NY because a tax increase that's in line with neighboring states' is in place.

All the other stuff about who voted for him and who would or wouldn't still vote for him if X, Y, and Z was in place is irrelevant.
Well it's certainly relevant that both the governor and the state legislature disagree with you and agree with me that it isn't worth driving away their tax base.
 
Florida, Texas and Tennessee are seeing rich New Yorkers move to their states because of Mamdani’ election. He is losing a major tax base so its going to be harder to fund his ideas.
 
Florida, Texas and Tennessee are seeing rich New Yorkers move to their states because of Mamdani’ election. He is losing a major tax base so its going to be harder to fund his ideas.
I have a feeling that cheetah eating faces thread is going to get a lot more posts.
 
We what, there are people in this thread says this works with no issues..


 
Well it's certainly relevant that both the governor and the state legislature disagree with you and agree with me that it isn't worth driving away their tax base.

Pretty meaningful that said governor endorsed Mamdani over the much more mainstream Cuomo.

At the very least she could have stayed quiet and not endorsed either.
 
Pretty meaningful that said governor endorsed Mamdani over the much more mainstream Cuomo.

At the very least she could have stayed quiet and not endorsed either.
It's meaningful that the democrat governor endorsed the democrat candidate? Cuomo wasn't the democrat candidate, and she didn't endorse anybody in the primary. Cuomo had already lost and ran as an independent, and she's the one the replaced him when he was forced out of office, then she called him toxic and fired his staff.
 
Multi-accent Mamdani is Kamala's boyfie in another life.







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Virtually identical.
 
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