Elections NYC mayoral race

[Confucamus]

Mental health professionals are also not security guards and shouldn't be thrust into a potentially fatally violent confrontation with an armed, deranged man having a meltdown.

I like that people who know jack shit about what police actually do and what's involved in their training talk about what they're qualified to handle.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

A mayor can't just "raise taxes", it has to go through the state legislature, and it doesn't seem like he has support for it there because it'll fuck up the state budgets too if he drives people into Ct or Jersey.

Federal tax- 37%
NY State Tax- 10.9%
NY city tax- 3.9%, Mamdani wants 5.9%
Social Security and Medicare tax for self-employed- 15.3%, plus another 0.9%
Federal Corporate Tax-21%
NY corporate tax rate-7.25%, Mamdana wants to make it 11%
Property Tax- based on property, about another $20-30k
State Sales Tax-4%
City Sales Tax-4.5%
MCTD surcharge-0.375%



Yeah, I'm sure everybody with money is thinking "well I could just leave the city and buy a nice house with a yard an commute, or I could give the already highest taxed state and local area in the country another few hundred thousand every year to ride a public bus full of hobos and drug addicts".

Of course he can't do it unilaterally??? Did you think that was a gotcha?

 

[nostradumbass]

You forgot Trump Tariff Tax, the most antisocial tax out there!

Of course, the only you can completely avoid by buying and hiring American is the only one libs and foreigners oppose.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Sounds like Trump's economy is really booming for the luxury apartments, but yes, people are leaving and the city has been spending more than it's receiving for several years and have been draining their rainy day funds rolled from previous years for 3 straight years.

Running on Empty

While the City’s short-term choices have increasingly stressed its finances, federal budget and tax policy changes may well reduce funds that support the City and State budgets.

cbcny.org

CBC found that:

• Expenses exceeded revenues by $636.0 million in fiscal year 2023 and $1.1 billion in fiscal year 2024, adjusted for the City’s ability to shift timing of payments;
• Year-end prepayment of expenses—which effectively rolls previously accumulated excess money from one year to the next—declined from $6.1 billion in fiscal year 2022 to $4.4 billion in fiscal year 2024, and is likely to decline further in fiscal year 2025;
• The fiscal year 2026 preliminary budget is short $3.6 billion needed to provide planned services;
  • This shortfall is comprised of underbudgeting $4.0 billion needed to maintain current service levels and $450.0 million to implement the State’s Class Size Reduction mandate, offset by $575.0 million in higher than budgeted State support and $266.0 million in overbudgeting for City-funded asylum seeker services;
• The City has already added $3.8 billion during fiscal year 2025 to fund programs that CBC identified as underbudgeted at the beginning of the fiscal year, and more will likely be needed;
  • During fiscal year 2024, the City added $4.0 billion to fund underbudgeted programs that year; and
• Future budget gaps are $7.8 billion, $10.1 billion, and $9.6 billion in fiscal years 2027 to 2029, respectively, when underbudgeting, the Class Size Reduction mandate, and projected asylum seeker costs are taken into account.

Trump's economy is unquestionably good for the rich, which is why he's 20+ points underwater in the economy in approval polls.

And that report focuses on spending, which is definitely a problem and which Mamdani has focused on as well.

But that report makes no mention or suggestion that tax revenues are decreasing. In fact, when tax revenue is mentioned, it's in a favorable tone:

The City has not made a deposit to the RSF since fiscal year 2022, despite strong tax revenue growth of 4.6 percent.

Current-year spending remains underbudgeted by more than $700.0 million and, according to the City’s fiscal monitors, tax revenues may be roughly $335.0 million higher than forecast.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Mental health professionals are also not security guards and shouldn't be thrust into a potentially fatally violent confrontation with an armed, deranged man having a meltdown.

Well thats how its going to be done. Some rando mental health professional is going to be catapulted within striking ranger of an active shooter. If God is on our side we'll be able to score a direct hit so we can disarm the assailant, but if not the health care profesional should be able to tire out the attacker with basic hand to hand combat until a swat team in a tank is able to take over.

 

[Siver!]

Of course, the only you can completely avoid by buying and hiring American is the only one libs and foreigners oppose.

"Completely avoid" lol

Good luck chatting on here on whatever purely American-made product you think you're using!

But nice try.

Triple T's are only as avoidable as any generic sales tax. You can buy raw and unprocessed food and grow your own shit to avoid paying it, but you're gonna pay it eventually.

You think Trump is so stupid you can think of a way of avoiding his favourite form of taxation?

 

[Loiosh]

You really are a complete and utter imbecile. This is why I ignore you most of the time. It applies to his character and motivations. If he's a commie then he's is unfit to run NYC. The worst case scenario is mass exodus of people and businesses leading to bankruptcy.


Repeating a core tenant of communism in Marx's words verbatim is a good indication he's commie or at least commie supporter. Either way, he's going to be a disaster. Most of those other countries have smaller populations that are propped up by a few industries. Good luck getting social democracy to work here. Especially with all of our illegal immigration.


And there it is. Your bread and butter: call everyone else a racist. Ironically you were crying like a little girl in the Kirk thread when people painted liberals with a broad brush. That is when you weren't being the little shit lib troll you are and shitting all over the victims. You're just filled with hate and disgusting inside and out.

All those words just to say a couple of quotes are your entire argument. You have no argument, someone pulled your string and you said "communist". Maybe the next time it will be "Muslim". You aren't sophisticated, and you ignore me because you have no compelling arguments.

As for South Africa, grow a pair and explain why I'm wrong. Trump and his admin expedited immigration for white farmers specifically even though many more black farmers were being killed.

I don't care what you think or say about liberals, why would I? You're rabidly partisan and your opinions are ALWAYS predetermined. You don't have opinions, you have instructions.

So, yes or no:

Assuming I'm correct that more South African black farmers were being killed, was it OK for Trump to expedite immigration for white farmers only? Keep in mind the evidence of white graves Trump presented was completely fabricated.

Doge removed the DOD tribute for Army Maj. Gen. Charles Calvin Rogers, a black medal of honor winner, and replaced the URL with "DEI Medal". Was that not incredibly racist?

 

[Osculater]

Mental health professionals are also not security guards and shouldn't be thrust into a potentially fatally violent confrontation with an armed, deranged man having a meltdown.

Give them guns

 

[nostradumbass]

"Completely avoid" lol

Good luck chatting on here on whatever purely American-made product you think you're using!

But nice try.

Triple T's are only as avoidable as any generic sales tax. You can buy raw and unprocessed food and grow your own shit to avoid paying it, but you're gonna pay it eventually.

You think Trump is so stupid you can think of a way of avoiding his favourite form of taxation?

Lol, so you don't even know what the tariffs apply to?

 

[Limbo Pete]

Mental health professionals are also not security guards and shouldn't be thrust into a potentially fatally violent confrontation with an armed, deranged man having a meltdown.

Mental health workers deal with deranged lunatics constantly no matter what. That's the job. There's a crucial distinction between law enforcement and mental health crisis response: just being crazy isn't illegal.

 

[Darkavius]

You realize who pays most of the taxes... right?

And right on cue

Mandami is begging for money

Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani's 2025 Transition Website

Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani is ready to work to make New York safe and affordable for all of its residents.

www.transition2025.com

This is going to be fucking hilarious

I'll say this again. You don't want a small amount of people paying all the taxes. It's not a good look and think about it this way. If this small group of individuals are paying all these taxes then doesn't that essentially mean what Dems and Repubs have been saying for the longest in that wealth is too concentrated in the hands of a few? The idea that people are making arguments for millionaires and billionaires when they do things like wage theft when you are not one of them is hilarious.

Side note, are we oblivious to how campaigns and politics work? Politicians constantly ask for funds even when they are not in full fledge campaign mode.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Mental health professionals are also not security guards and shouldn't be thrust into a potentially fatally violent confrontation with an armed, deranged man having a meltdown.

they aren't going to be sent alone to armed, deranged psychopaths committing violence. they're going to be sent to unarmed domestic disputes and mental health crises. if arms are involved, police will be there. violent crime doesn't stop being violent crime because it's spurred by mental health issues.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

I like that people who know jack shit about what police actually do and what's involved in their training talk about what they're qualified to handle.

my whole family's background is in military, police, politics and emergency response of every kind. they are trained to de-escalate but they rarely ever do.

 

[nhbbear]

Just like the last few potus elections-there were only absolutely horrible choices here. How in the fuck does the supposedly best city in the world-according to new yorkers fail so miserably to field even one remotely not fucking terrible option for its mayor? I have never seen such an absurd choce presented to voters before-well, besides the potus elections.


sleewa is an absolute unqualified goober. He walks funny, makes odd head movements, and just looks like a caricature of a person.

cuomo is a corrupt piece of shit slathered in so many scandals and he resigned as gov of the state. How in the fuck did he, or anybody, think he was a good choice to lead the most populous city in the US? Who in the fuck would give him money for this endeavor? That is throwing your money away and the people that gave it obviously don’t and didn’t ever even deserve money to give if they’re going to throw it away. But as I say this, we do have a felon in the White House that was never an even remotely qualified or good candidate for any office and it makes me sick and sad that he was ever taken seriously or elected not once, but twice! cuomo is on so many pockets and has so many in his pocket and like our dear, beloved potus, he only exists and ran to enrich himself even more and those of his cronies. His brother is a super twat also.

Now for mayor mamdani-man, that’s gross to say. Obviously, one of my first concerns-me being me, is what he said about the police department and implied about police in general-the police are racist and a danger to the community and they need defunded. Wow, that’s pretty bold-but look at how he walked it back like a pussy. Stick to your bold statements you fucking twat. Nope-suddenly, he was taken out of context or he spoke out of emotion while he was grief stricken over losing floyd in 2020. He, like so many reactionary politicians in this country-especially in places like Minneapolis that wanted to completely disband their police department and then “reimagine public safety” and every other city like nyc where many of the council members wanted to punish the nypd for a crime that occurred in another state and city hundreds of miles away-they all called for aggressively defunding the police to punish the profession-again, because of what one officer did far away. It was pure virtue signaling. The city of Seattle also wanted to punish their police officers for what chauvin did-so they defunded their police department despite what they actually claim now-that they didn’t actually go through with it-they did. Seattle got rid of several specialized police units like the violent crimes task force and put those officers back out onto beats and in uniform and most of them either retired or quit because who wants to be part of a department that does that? Who wants to go from a more elite and prestigious position and suddenly be thrown in uniform again responding to crackheads and crazy people while they now have to work shift work? Of course those officers that can get out will get out and those that can’t yet retire would rather quit than be treated like shit and punished for something they had nothing to do with. Then, when Seattle pd was so fucking depleted form their threats to defund the department and officers not feeling supported and feeling attacked-they had to try to hire new officers and when every eligible candidate said “nah, I’m good” they had to start trying to lure back those that retired because it takes a long time to hire a new police officer and train them long enough for them to be self sufficient to be able to be an effective police officer and no already certified officer is going to willingly agree to work for a department like that.

Hell, fucking seattle in their ultimate wisdom and virtue signaling started sending unarmed social workers to calls that used to have police respond to. Well, it only took a few social workers being stabbed to death for them and the rest of the country to maybe rethink that strategy-bold strategy, cotton.

I could go on and on and on about the nightmare and absolute failure that defunding the police was and how the profession still has not recovered and is having tons of difficulties in filling empty slots on their department. But almost every single city that threatened to or actually defunded their police department soon walked that shit back when their officers quit in droves and soon, the city had a serious officer shortage and couldn’t respond to calls anymore. Cities like San Fran, seattle, oakland, and many others no longer respond to certain crimes-they tell the victims of crimes to report it online or simply report it to insurance. They get zero investigation, zero service, zero prosecution, zero compensation, zero justice all because of the defund movement. Even violent crimes are sometimes not responded to or it happens hours later long after the suspect has fled. Response times are waaaay up, clearance rates are way down due to lack of officers-slow response times, lack of detectives or special units.

And then there is progressive prosecutors that took a strong hold after the defund movement. Sure it was happening in very liberal areas before then, but it spread like wildfire, crack epidemic, or the aids virus in the 80s-take your favorite euphemism. But it leads to no persecution for many crimes, no bond policies releasing violent suspects back onto the streets to continue to reoffend-often violently, leads to so called “restorative justice” that means basically, you get an apology and an explanation as to why you were targeted and get to hear the sob story of the defendant as to how they were beaten as a child and grew up as the only kid on the block without new air jordans-then you hug and you are suddenly whole again.

So, don’t walk back now, mamdani-you meant it when you said it and you still want to do it now you fucking coward.

Oh-did I mention that he is against private property? He would seize property in imminent domain if or when he can and give it to the homeless. Or, he will pay property owners either less than the property is worth or pay much more than it is worth and use tax money to build homes for poor and homeless. It is bad to have homes for the homeless? No, it isn’t-but to do so by stealing property is unconstitutional.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Hell, fucking seattle in their ultimate wisdom and virtue signaling started sending unarmed social workers to calls that used to have police respond to. Well, it only took a few social workers being stabbed to death for them and the rest of the country to maybe rethink that strategy-bold strategy, cotton.

Mental health crisis responders are nothing new, and are extremely effective. Where i'm from, their biggest supporters _are_ the police

 

[ShadowRun]

Not a surprise

 

[fedoriswar37]

they aren't going to be sent alone to armed, deranged psychopaths committing violence. they're going to be sent to unarmed domestic disputes and mental health crises. if arms are involved, police will be there. violent crime doesn't stop being violent crime because it's spurred by mental health issues.

You have clearly never saw somebody go from calm to complete hysterics in the snap of a finger.

 

[fedoriswar37]

Just like the last few potus elections-there were only absolutely horrible choices here. How in the fuck does the supposedly best city in the world-according to new yorkers fail so miserably to field even one remotely not fucking terrible option for its mayor? I have never seen such an absurd choce presented to voters before-well, besides the potus elections.


sleewa is an absolute unqualified goober. He walks funny, makes odd head movements, and just looks like a caricature of a person.

cuomo is a corrupt piece of shit slathered in so many scandals and he resigned as gov of the state. How in the fuck did he, or anybody, think he was a good choice to lead the most populous city in the US? Who in the fuck would give him money for this endeavor? That is throwing your money away and the people that gave it obviously don’t and didn’t ever even deserve money to give if they’re going to throw it away. But as I say this, we do have a felon in the White House that was never an even remotely qualified or good candidate for any office and it makes me sick and sad that he was ever taken seriously or elected not once, but twice! cuomo is on so many pockets and has so many in his pocket and like our dear, beloved potus, he only exists and ran to enrich himself even more and those of his cronies. His brother is a super twat also.

Now for mayor mamdani-man, that’s gross to say. Obviously, one of my first concerns-me being me, is what he said about the police department and implied about police in general-the police are racist and a danger to the community and they need defunded. Wow, that’s pretty bold-but look at how he walked it back like a pussy. Stick to your bold statements you fucking twat. Nope-suddenly, he was taken out of context or he spoke out of emotion while he was grief stricken over losing floyd in 2020. He, like so many reactionary politicians in this country-especially in places like Minneapolis that wanted to completely disband their police department and then “reimagine public safety” and every other city like nyc where many of the council members wanted to punish the nypd for a crime that occurred in another state and city hundreds of miles away-they all called for aggressively defunding the police to punish the profession-again, because of what one officer did far away. It was pure virtue signaling. The city of Seattle also wanted to punish their police officers for what chauvin did-so they defunded their police department despite what they actually claim now-that they didn’t actually go through with it-they did. Seattle got rid of several specialized police units like the violent crimes task force and put those officers back out onto beats and in uniform and most of them either retired or quit because who wants to be part of a department that does that? Who wants to go from a more elite and prestigious position and suddenly be thrown in uniform again responding to crackheads and crazy people while they now have to work shift work? Of course those officers that can get out will get out and those that can’t yet retire would rather quit than be treated like shit and punished for something they had nothing to do with. Then, when Seattle pd was so fucking depleted form their threats to defund the department and officers not feeling supported and feeling attacked-they had to try to hire new officers and when every eligible candidate said “nah, I’m good” they had to start trying to lure back those that retired because it takes a long time to hire a new police officer and train them long enough for them to be self sufficient to be able to be an effective police officer and no already certified officer is going to willingly agree to work for a department like that.

Hell, fucking seattle in their ultimate wisdom and virtue signaling started sending unarmed social workers to calls that used to have police respond to. Well, it only took a few social workers being stabbed to death for them and the rest of the country to maybe rethink that strategy-bold strategy, cotton.

I could go on and on and on about the nightmare and absolute failure that defunding the police was and how the profession still has not recovered and is having tons of difficulties in filling empty slots on their department. But almost every single city that threatened to or actually defunded their police department soon walked that shit back when their officers quit in droves and soon, the city had a serious officer shortage and couldn’t respond to calls anymore. Cities like San Fran, seattle, oakland, and many others no longer respond to certain crimes-they tell the victims of crimes to report it online or simply report it to insurance. They get zero investigation, zero service, zero prosecution, zero compensation, zero justice all because of the defund movement. Even violent crimes are sometimes not responded to or it happens hours later long after the suspect has fled. Response times are waaaay up, clearance rates are way down due to lack of officers-slow response times, lack of detectives or special units.

And then there is progressive prosecutors that took a strong hold after the defund movement. Sure it was happening in very liberal areas before then, but it spread like wildfire, crack epidemic, or the aids virus in the 80s-take your favorite euphemism. But it leads to no persecution for many crimes, no bond policies releasing violent suspects back onto the streets to continue to reoffend-often violently, leads to so called “restorative justice” that means basically, you get an apology and an explanation as to why you were targeted and get to hear the sob story of the defendant as to how they were beaten as a child and grew up as the only kid on the block without new air jordans-then you hug and you are suddenly whole again.

So, don’t walk back now, mamdani-you meant it when you said it and you still want to do it now you fucking coward.

Oh-did I mention that he is against private property? He would seize property in imminent domain if or when he can and give it to the homeless. Or, he will pay property owners either less than the property is worth or pay much more than it is worth and use tax money to build homes for poor and homeless. It is bad to have homes for the homeless? No, it isn’t-but to do so by stealing property is unconstitutional.

Great point. How the fuck did it come down to the grandma killer vs a guy looking for his first job.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

You have clearly never saw somebody go from calm to complete hysterics in the snap of a finger.

i've seen it a few times. you know who's DEFINITELY seen it? mental health professionals

 

[Confucamus]

my whole family's background is in military, police, politics and emergency response of every kind. they are trained to de-escalate but they rarely ever do.

False.