Not Showtime yet: Report emBARRgoed (SCO Thread v. 30)

[MikeMcMann]

Further, Mueller did not charge any Americans with illegally conspiring with Russians on any matter, including election interference -- a foundational reason for the launch of the high-profile Mueller probe nearly two years ago.

Well. There it is

Why not quote the ACTUAL text of the mandate instead of making up a false one and then saying he did not achieve the false mandate?

Oh this is why

"The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation ... including:
any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals...
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump"


When you read the ACTUAL text quoted and see what Mueller ACTUALLY achieved in terms of indictments and guilt you see he was massively successful.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

Yes but if you look at what was ACTUALLY the core of the Mueller mandate we have a record number of guilty people. A whole bunch of 'collusion' found and indicted and convicted or admitted.

What is known as a massive successful investigation.

Not really:

When someone is hunting for elephant, the hunt isn't considered a success if the hunter was only able to get two dozen squirrels.

The left are now trying to pass off their metaphorical two dozen squirrels as a successful elephant hunt.

As I said two years ago, this entire investigation will eventually go down as an irrelevant piece of history. Little more than a tidbit of trivia for board games and internet quizzes. Looks like I'll ultimately be vindicated.

P.S. That's President Trump to you.

 

[andnowweknow]

Yup. Looking forward to finding a collusion or two in there. I have heard about these collusions, and I have come to understand they can be quite tall and hairy, similar to a great ape but with bipedalism and a human-looking face.

I'll take that as a no, because you've equated it with bigfoot and in consideration that literally nobody thinks this report will reflect well on Trump or his people...if you or other Trumpers thought actually seeing the Mueller report was helpful too wouldn't be pretending you know it clears him already.

Let's just get past the nasty back and forth.

Here's what's gonna happen...Trump will fight tooth and nail to prevent the reports release. And you will support Trump in that. And that's because politically, it's likely to shit all over him in the details.

And if Trump didn't think that was the case, he'd be mashing buttons on Twitter and Trump supporters wouldn't be pretending to be confident in the face of literally no details.

 

[andnowweknow]

Trump is probably too busy lobbying Barr to Tweet.

 

[Fawlty]

This is what doubling-down looks like:

You (Fawlty) hold an opinion.

An official Source (the Cambridge dictionary) contradicts your opinion.

You say the official source is somehow wrong rather than accept the possibility that you're wrong.

This is a teachable moment for you Fawlty.

I guess sort of a reverse-teachable moment? Like the rise of the word "irregardless." Merriam-Webster is holding the line, and hasn't given into the common stupidity:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sour grapes
Definition of sour grapes
: disparagement of something that has proven unattainable

The point in sour grapes is that you attack the thing you couldn't get. Just losing something and being upset isn't sour grapes. But losing something and then talking that thing down, as if it wasn't really important, is sour grapes.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Not exactly:

Again you have to IGNORE what was actually written in his mandate and then lie or spin to take your view. Yes if you hunt for elephants and find squirrels I would agree.

But here is the text again with the key part of what Mueller was investigating (hunting) highlighted so you wont make the same mistake.

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation...including:
any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals...
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump"


So if you are hunting "individuals associated with the Trump Campaign" and you find individuals associated with the Trump campaign that is nothing comparable to hunting elephants and catching squirrels.

Be smarter. He found exactly what he was convened to find.

 

[unimackpass]

When people start putting sentences together in almost random word salads, that's a sign that person is suffering from cognitive dissonance at that very moment. If the person speaking appears to be putting together grammatically correct sentences, yet is unable to convey a clear thought with those sentences, that indicates that a major portion of their worldview has been challenged yet they're unable to answer the challenge.

Proverbs 25:11
A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver.

 

[andnowweknow]

Proverbs 25:11
A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver.

A titty without a nipple is probably a bag I will never suck.

That makes two sentences comprised of words that are profoundly meaningful.

 

[PHATV]

That's not what "sour grapes" means.

Sour grapes is the rationalization of failure, not the lack of acceptance. As in, "had I gotten the grapes, they would have been sour anyway."

An example of sour grapes from 2016 would be people who were upset that Trump won, but who rationalized by saying that Hillary would have been worse. We had quite a few of those in here.

That's a terrible example. An example would be Trump crushing Hillary in 2016 and leftists crying "but Hillary one the popular vote!!!" (given we use the electoral college), or "without Russian interference in rigging the election for Trump, Hillary would have been elected and she's the rightful POTUS!!!" (in the face of zero evidence of anything of the sort) or something along those lines. There have been myriad examples in the WR since November 2016.

"sour grapes"

noun
English Language Learners Definition of sour grapes
informal : unfair criticism that comes from someone who is disappointed about not getting something

Basically, it's:

 

[andnowweknow]

That's a terrible example. An example would be Trump crushing Hillary in 2016 and leftists crying "but Hillary one the popular vote!!!" (given we use the electoral votes) or "without Russian interference in rigging the election for Trump, Hillary would have been elected and she's the rightful POTUS!!!" (in the face of zero evidence of anything of the sort) or along those lines.

"sour grapes"

noun
English Language Learners Definition of sour grapes
informal : unfair criticism that comes from someone who is disappointed about not getting something

Pretty sure "sour grapes" is a commentary on impotence.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Proverbs 25:11
A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver.

The sight of sights cures the blindness of vision.

 

[PHATV]

Pretty sure "sour grapes" is a commentary on impotence.

I'm lost. Is there an inside joke or you don't know what it means, either?

 

[andnowweknow]

I'm lost. Is there an inside joke or you don't know what it means, either?

Guessing you're not firing blanks there champ. Well, maybe upstairs.

 

[PHATV]

Guessing you're not firing blanks there champ. Well, maybe upstairs.

No, I throw champions from my loins, what does that have to do with sour grapes or the God King Trump being besmirched without reason for two years now in a partisan which hunt?

Ah, never mind.
<{ByeHomer}>

 

[Fawlty]

That's a terrible example. An example would be Trump crushing Hillary in 2016 and leftists crying "but Hillary one the popular vote!!!" (given we use the electoral college), or "without Russian interference in rigging the election for Trump, Hillary would have been elected and she's the rightful POTUS!!!" (in the face of zero evidence of anything of the sort) or something along those lines. There have been myriad examples in the WR since November 2016.

"sour grapes"

noun
English Language Learners Definition of sour grapes
informal : unfair criticism that comes from someone who is disappointed about not getting something

Basically, it's:

No, those are terrible examples that depart from the more subtle, useful meaning that held up for centuries, only to be dumbed down just like "begs the question." They also don't really fit the definition you cite. The point in sour grapes is attacking the thing that was supposed to be the prize. For 2016, that could have been "I'm mad that Trump won but Hillary would have been worse," or "The presidency is a joke anyway," or "It doesn't matter, it was rigged." I do understand that people tend to suck the meaning out of great idioms and phrases. And unfortunately for English, they aren't replaced, so we continually lose meaning and distinction.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

The left so mad right now lol. Schumer the shmuck in full-blown damage control. Pelosi trying to get the voting age down to birth canal and up to the mother to interpret her own body's vote.

Sorry brah, no amount of deflection will bring back your talking points.

 

[hillelslovak87]

No, I throw champions from my loins, what does that have to do with sour grapes or the God King Trump being besmirched without reason for two years now in a partisan which hunt?

Ah, never mind.
<{ByeHomer}>

Are you Trump guys gonna start going full Comic Con, and geek out over Trump like this even more? God King Trump? Lay off the Warhammer, weirdo.

 

[Grenz]

Jesus fucking Christ people. The fucking fox wanted the grapes and when he couldn't reach them he rationalized his failure by claiming the grapes would have been sour anyway. It's a Roman fable and the original source of the expression 'sour grapes'. How is this so difficult that it has to be argued for 2 pages.

 

[unimackpass]

Farmers are often a bit slow.

Seems like a farmer just totally kicked ass (for two years) on the outcome of the Russian collusion investigation. Pontificating about the finer points of a story about a fox and some sour grapes to try sooth butt hurt personifies the general state of the left about now.

 

[andnowweknow]

Jesus fucking Christ people. The fucking fox wanted the grapes and when he couldn't reach them he rationalized his failure by claiming the grapes would have been sour anyway. It's a Roman fable and the original source of the expression 'sour grapes'. How is this so difficult that it has to be argued for 2 pages.

Lol.