Noam Chomsky: Trump is a Distraction

[IReallyDoTrainUFC]

Your freedom ends where someone else's begins.

I generally agree with that, yes.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

Trump isn't serving the elites. That's what Hillary was meant to do. That's why all the media and academia hate him. You know who works for the controlling elite? Chomsky. When was the last time he proposed the ending of the Fed? Global Warming isn't an 'issue' except for the controlling elite who want to use it as a pretext for One World Government. Trump is the enemy of Chomsky's elite because he's not on their team.

so academics are the elite but trump is not?

truly strange shit people believe.

 

[helltoupee]

I generally agree with that, yes.

And who would you expect to mediate and balance the point where one individual's freedom ends, and another's begins?

 

[JonnyRingo84]

#1 BULLSHIT. The elites never lose an election.

i remember when the NWO conspiracy types swore that "the elite" had "chosen" rick perry for the top job.

hindsight bias keeps this kind of mindset going.

 

[glenwo2]

Trump is not a distraction.

I'm perfectly capable of waking up in the morning and going about my business without worry about what the POTUS is up to.

The rest of you? No offense but I don't give a shit.

 

[IReallyDoTrainUFC]

And who would you expect to mediate and balance the point where one individual's freedom ends, and another's begins?

Free your mind, slave. A society free of coercion is not a lawless society, but a state-less one.

Here is the basics of arbitration:
voluntaryist.com/articles/084.html#.W2zWXerD_qA

 

[helltoupee]

Free your mind, slave. A society free of coercion is not a lawless society, but a state-less one.

Here is the basics of arbitration:
voluntaryist.com/articles/084.html#.W2zWXerD_qA

So arbitration?

I had to do a full stop on the first paragraph where it specified that arbitration differs from State judicial enforcement because it is entirely "voluntary".

So if I rape your wife, and I don't voluntarily subscribe to an arbitration process, who *forces* me to attend and stand accountable? Is it still *voluntary* at that point?

 

[IReallyDoTrainUFC]

So arbitration?

I had to do a full stop on the first paragraph where it specified that arbitration differs from State judicial enforcement because it is entirely "voluntary".

So if I rape your wife, and I don't voluntarily subscribe to an arbitration process, who *forces* me to attend and stand accountable? Is it still *voluntary* at that point?

Again look at how they've brainwashed you. "If the state doesn't enforce law, there will be no enforcement "....that is again what you think, because your masters have brainwashed you into subjection. They made you believe you need them to survive.

No. A voluntary society does not mean a lawless society, and it does not mean that there is no law enforcement. It simply means there is no *monopoly* on the enforcement of law.

People voluntarily contract to be governed by the enforcement service that they choose. So there is not a monopoly of enforcement, but a decentralized system of enforcement.

 

[brothir]

So arbitration?

I had to do a full stop on the first paragraph where it specified that arbitration differs from State judicial enforcement because it is entirely "voluntary".

So if I rape your wife, and I don't voluntarily subscribe to an arbitration process, who *forces* me to attend and stand accountable? Is it still *voluntary* at that point?

I admire your stamina in pursuing debate #83249874145 with a libertarian over how the legal system of an an-cap state would look like. I can't do that anymore: it's fun if you can get down to really specific aspects of economy. Had a good one with Greoric over Norway's SWF: eventually it got granular enough that he just stopped responding, but the journey there was fun.

 

[IReallyDoTrainUFC]

I admire your stamina in pursuing debate #83249874145 with a libertarian over how the legal system of an an-cap state would look like. I can't do that anymore: it's fun if you can get down to really specific aspects of economy. Had a good one with Greoric over Norway's SWF: eventually it got granular enough that he just stopped responding, but the journey there was fun.

Let's have a debate about how good the judicial tyranny in this country is, and how innocent people are stripped of their lives, wealth and freedom every day.

This state controlled system works great doesn't it, genius?

 

[MeatheadMike]

You just have a small mind.

If you grew up in a country where the government enforced a policy that it was the only entity that could manufacture shoes, you naturally wouldn't be able to imagine how your shoes could be made by the free market. How could you? All you've known is a government monopoly.

It's the same way with roads and whatever else the government has claimed a monopoly on. The market would do an infinitely better job at delivering any good or service.

Another retarded analogy. Its actually very easy to imagine the private sector controlling those things, and very easy for a non-simpleton to see why that would be a problem.

Its ironic that your disdain for government is coupled with a blind faith in corporations. You sound like a naive kid who is unable to think past the propaganda he's been fed.

 

[brothir]

Let's have a debate about how good the judicial tyranny in this country is, and how innocent people are stripped of their lives, wealth and freedom every day.

This state controlled system works great doesn't it, genius?

1) You're being unnecessarily hostile.

2) You didn't specify what "this country" is. I'm assuming the US, but part of the discussion has to be that once a country adopts some form of representative democracy then there's a certain number of facets that said country immediately inherits. Hence, you can actually abstract the discussion to a much higher level immediately, therefore not having to deal with the specifics of "this country".

-10 points to Gryffindor.

 

[Witchhunt]

Just did. Post still checks out.

But hey, I understand the need to deflect when you really don't have a point to be made.

Obviously...

 

[JohnnySagebrush]

Free your mind, slave. A society free of coercion is not a lawless society, but a state-less one.

Here is the basics of arbitration:
voluntaryist.com/articles/084.html#.W2zWXerD_qA

We already have a forum member that does this shtick, except he really believes it.

 

[IReallyDoTrainUFC]

We already have a forum member that does this shtick, except he really believes it.

What's the shtick?

 

[Edgy Brah]

Dark Money : It's a movie about C 4 PAC's and Montana's fight to stop corporations buying legislature/senate/judges seats. Shows how your democracy can be swindled from you.

Don't click the link if you believe in property rights. Or watch it legally as best you can. @Trotsky gets a free pass.

https://www9.fmovies.io/watch/dark-money.html

 

[forum poster]

Chomsky even has a bee named after him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megachile_chomskyi

 

[Madmick]

"That's why the stock market goes up...the stock market has not much to do with the economy."

I just can't take him seriously, anymore.

 

[mixcontactsport]

What isn't a distraction these days? What's even funnier is that people here actually believe it's social media and platforms like Sherdog that are poisoning people's minds.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Chomsky assumes that "the elites" and Trump share all his basic assumptions. I doubt that Trump or the people Chomsky sites are deliberately and consciously trying to get us all killed or ruin the environment or even just don't care. That would doom them too or would at least ruin the machines that make them rich in the first place. All of these people would need to be consciously evil for his claims to be valid.

This is why he says "organized human life" and not "human life."

Environmental catastrophe or nuclear war wouldn't literally destroy all humans, but it would destroy the current system we have to the point where chaos would reign and the current order would be replaced. Banks and corporations will still exist and the elites will still run them and will still be in charge of everything. Sea levels rise to the point where coastal cities get flooded? Guess who has the money to pack up and move inland with no problems? (Hint: it ain't the middle and lower classes). So their lives wouldn't be hurt nearly as much.

Also, these threats are undoubtedly real and the GOP's policies are undoubtedly making them worse. Yet they keep doing it! What else are we supposed to conclude?