No Shuai Jiao fighters in the UFC?

[ilfirin]

Its similar to Judo and they do strength and conditioning as a part of their training. Yet I have never seen anyone represent it in the UFC or maybe I am not aware?

Screw you Aizen you betrayed Soul Society.

 

[ithinktheymad]

Pretty sure that TUF dude was one.

 

[BJJ_Rage]

These techniques can be used while armed. If you study ancient manuals of combat you will see that trips and throws are a core part of armed combat.

Wanderlei Silva in a no rules fight? I would put an arrow through his chest from 50m away.

These techniques can be used while armed. If you study ancient manuals of combat you will see that trips and throws are a core part of armed combat.

Wanderlei Silva in a no rules fight? I would put an arrow through his chest from 50m away.

you dont get the point, hand to hand combat is meaningless for the battlefield, guns are there for a reason.

 

[Ogata]

Screw you Aizen you betrayed Soul Society.

Not as bad as the way the author screwed the ending of Bleach.

 

[ilfirin]

Not as bad as the way the author screwed the ending of Bleach.

Boom! And you're not wrong, sadly.

 

[Kim Jong Un]

There are too many Martial Arts out there. Wing sum doo Fu is the ancient western chinese martial art that invented the grasshopper style. I hope no one actually believed me.
There's a reason why the random ancient martial arts arts arent famous because they aren't as effective. Muay Thai, Wrestling, Sambo, Japanese Jiu Jitsu ,BJJ, Judo, Karate, Taekwondo, Sanshou, Kickboxing, and Boxing are the most effectve martial arts imo.

Shuai Jiao is essentially freestyle wrestling in a sleeveless Judo gi. I don't think it falls into the category of random ineffective martial art.

 

[AliBagaooteenov]

Shuai Jiao is essentially freestyle wrestling in a sleeveless Judo gi. I don't think it falls into the category of random ineffective martial art.

Shuai Jiao is essentially freestyle wrestling in a sleeveless Judo gi. I don't think it falls into the category of random ineffective martial art.

Maybe because those techniques in "Shuai Jiao" are also covered in other more common Martial arts like Judo, Japanese JJ, Greco roman wrestling, catch wrestling....

 

[Rebel_LioN]

It used to be a real martial art back in the 1800s and earlier.

It's not a martial art anymore. No one's used in real fighting for close to 100 years. That means that all the effective techniques, how to use it in a real fight, and combinations that can be used at a high-level of competition have been forgotten.

Those are what make up a martial art. Almost all Kung Fu is like this. A lot of it can be blamed on the communist government banning martial arts.

The same thing happened in Cambodia under pol pot. They started executing martial artists, including pradal serey fighters. Pradal Serey is almost the same thing as muay thai. Pradal Serey ALMOST completely died and was almost lost to history. They legalized it recently and there were just a few old guys still left alive to bring it back.

Imagine no one using boxing in a fight for the next 100 years. The only boxing people train is a some cardio kickboxing classes. All the knowledge that makes it a real martial art would be lost forever.

It's been too long though. All traditional forms of Kung Fu have been forgotten and lost to history. They're gone forever.

You sir are very knowledgable. I'm Cambodian and I didn't think anyone knew about Pradal Srey. I'm a product of that war here in the states.

 

[superpunch]

You sir are very knowledgable. I'm Cambodian and I didn't think anyone knew about Pradal Srey. I'm a product of that war here in the states.

You really become an intellectual when you drink beer and watch fights on YouTube.

 

[MMAart]

Its similar to Judo and they do strength and conditioning as a part of their training. Yet I have never seen anyone represent it in the UFC or maybe I am not aware?

From the video, this martial art Shuai Jiao seems like a simpler version of Judo.

So if we have Judo, there is no need for Shuai Jiao.

 

[MMAart]

Shuai jiao is a cool wrestling/judo style

It's the traditional chinese wrestling

I say it's more suitable for mma than judo because their gi allows less grips, so it's more like wrestling

There is no-gi Judo.

 

[MMAart]

...................Shuai Jiao = Wrestling..................

It looks more like simple Judo than wrestling.

 

[heavenly kaghan]

Shuai Jiao as a national team in the All China Games has been disbanded by the Chinese government in 1994 so they can get more funding for Olympic games, now it only exist on the local level and the talent pool is much shallower than before. Most early Judokas from the Chinese Olympic have Shuajiao backgrounds and most switched to Judos. Sanshou throws ARE directly taken from Shuaijiao, so you see it used there.

 

[Rebel_LioN]

There's an older gentleman in my city that teaches Cambodian kickboxing. It's like Muay Thai but we had huge emphasis on elbows, clinching and more elbows. He managed to escape that genocide during the war and was famed Pradal serey fighter.

@superpunch

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Shuai jiao practitioner Vs Krav Maga practitioner for a chance to fight CM Punk. Make it happen Dana.

As an Israeli cetizen I have to point out that every person that braught up Krav Maga as relevant to UFC, should kindly shut the fuck up for sounding ignorant.. same reason why Sambo guys go to MMA and Systema don't, when the latter is clearly the far superior.
It's not a sport, they teach u how to take away someone's weapons, gouge eyes, escape or handle multiple attackers, crotch hits, killing etc... it's made for war...watered down versions of krav maga are the same but made meant for self defense.

 

[chubbman]

As an Israeli cetizen I have to point out that every person that braught up Krav Maga as relevant to UFC, should kindly shut the fuck up for sounding ignorant.. same reason why Sambo guys go to MMA and Systema don't, when the latter is clearly the far superior.
It's not a sport, they teach u how to take away someone's weapons, gouge eyes, escape or handle multiple attackers, crotch hits, killing etc... it's made for war...watered down versions of krav maga are the same but made meant for self defense.

For what it's worth, for what I've seen of Krav Maga. I took away two things

1- it looks fun as fuck to do
2- even the watered down shit would be dangerous if taught to a nasty bastard

 

[chubbman]

Cung lee was a Sanshou fighter and Sanshou has some of Shuai Jiao techniques if im not mistaken.

Was watching some sanshou on YouTube the other day, exiting stuff to watch

 

[CFGroup]

In Judo it's called being an Uke and you don't resist the technique just go with it so you don't get hurt.

So many don't get that principle. I think that's why MMA looks like young dudes bum fighting sometimes. There's a critical skill in protecting yourself in break falls that I've seen lacking in the BJJ schools I've trained at. Guys get hurt all the time rolling from standing cause they don't know how to accept they're going to the mat and protect themselves at throwing speed.
Really dig the fluidity in the Kazushi movement at 5:01 Tai Chi meets Judo. If those principles were drilled in Randuri to adapt to full resistance, it could be super cool.

 

[CFGroup]

It used to be a real martial art back in the 1800s and earlier.

It's not a martial art anymore. No one's used in real fighting for close to 100 years. That means that all the effective techniques, how to use it in a real fight, and combinations that can be used at a high-level of competition have been forgotten.

Those are what make up a martial art. Almost all Kung Fu is like this. A lot of it can be blamed on the communist government banning martial arts.

The same thing happened in Cambodia under pol pot. They started executing martial artists, including pradal serey fighters. Pradal Serey is almost the same thing as muay thai. Pradal Serey ALMOST completely died and was almost lost to history. They legalized it recently and there were just a few old guys still left alive to bring it back.

Imagine no one using boxing in a fight for the next 100 years. The only boxing people train is a some cardio kickboxing classes. All the knowledge that makes it a real martial art would be lost forever.

It's been too long though. All traditional forms of Kung Fu have been forgotten and lost to history. They're gone forever.

Kung fu(a term that really means dedicated practice) is alive and well in Kyokushin and other disciplines already at championship level MMA.

Mas Oyama the founder of Kyokushin trained Kung Fu when he lived in Manchuria under the Japanese occupation. He later trained GoJu Ryu a Japanese system originating in Okinawa derived from the Martial Art systems originating in China.

So in essence the full contact systems originating in Japan are the offspring of Chines Kung Fu fighting styles that survived. Okinawa has always been the location of varying interpretations of the hard brutal Chines martial arts.

 

[Kim Jong Un]

From the video, this martial art Shuai Jiao seems like a simpler version of Judo.

So if we have Judo, there is no need for Shuai Jiao.

It has takedowns that are illegal in Judo, so if anything Judo is a simpler version of Shuai Jiao. Its more like halfway between freestyle wrestling and Judo.