No Shuai Jiao fighters in the UFC?

[Ogata]

Its similar to Judo and they do strength and conditioning as a part of their training. Yet I have never seen anyone represent it in the UFC or maybe I am not aware?

 

[thehighking]

Never heard of this before. Just watched a bit of the video they have some cool sweeps

 

[K1 Hughes]

There's no Rex Kwon Do practitioners either to my knowledge, which is more legit IMO.

You can tell because he wears the same glasses as Seagal, who trained Anderson and Lyoto:

 

[bigpunch]

As a low level judoka I find their art interesting because of their kimono, it's closer to a t-shirt.

 

[Drofrah]

There are a lot of styles not represented other than in influence. The basics will remain the basics and these lesser known arts will continue to offer the TMA in mma debate

 

[When You See It]

Looks cool, but the guys being thrown are clearly jumping into the throws for show.

 

[bigpunch]

Looks cool, but the guys being thrown are clearly jumping into the throws for show.

In Judo it's called being an Uke and you don't resist the technique just go with it so you don't get hurt.

 

[Kim Jong Un]

There is a guy on the Chinese scene who uses it as his base and he has done very well with it. He is like 14-5 or something like that. Wiz c Cool was his student.

Unlike Judo, SJ allows double legs, single legs, high croch, and all throwing techniques.

 

[Dogo1]

All I saw was trips and throws, do they incorporate any actual grappling?

 

[deweydeucalion]

Shuai jiao is considered a supplement to a kung fu style and not meant to be used by itself.
From what I have read.

 

[superpunch]

Its similar to Judo and they do strength and conditioning as a part of their training. Yet I have never seen anyone represent it in the UFC or maybe I am not aware?

It used to be a real martial art back in the 1800s and earlier.

It's not a martial art anymore. No one's used in real fighting for close to 100 years. That means that all the effective techniques, how to use it in a real fight, and combinations that can be used at a high-level of competition have been forgotten.

Those are what make up a martial art. Almost all Kung Fu is like this. A lot of it can be blamed on the communist government banning martial arts.

The same thing happened in Cambodia under pol pot. They started executing martial artists, including pradal serey fighters. Pradal Serey is almost the same thing as muay thai. Pradal Serey ALMOST completely died and was almost lost to history. They legalized it recently and there were just a few old guys still left alive to bring it back.

Imagine no one using boxing in a fight for the next 100 years. The only boxing people train is a some cardio kickboxing classes. All the knowledge that makes it a real martial art would be lost forever.

It's been too long though. All traditional forms of Kung Fu have been forgotten and lost to history. They're gone forever.

 

[chubbman]

Shuai jiao practitioner Vs Krav Maga practitioner for a chance to fight CM Punk. Make it happen Dana.

 

[superpunch]

It used to be a real martial art back in the 1800s and earlier.

It's not a martial art anymore. No one's used in real fighting for close to 100 years. That means that all the effective techniques, how to use it in a real fight, and combinations that can be used at a high-level of competition have been forgotten.

Those are what make up a martial art. Almost all Kung Fu is like this. A lot of it can be blamed on the communist government banning martial arts.

The same thing happened in Burma under pol pot. They started executing martial artists, including lethwei fighters. Lethwei is almost the same thing as muay thai. Lethwei ALMOST completely died and was almost lost to history. They legalized it recently and there were just a few old guys still left alive to bring it back.

Imagine no one using boxing in a fight for the next 100 years. The only boxing people train is a some cardio kickboxing classes. All the knowledge that makes it a real martial art would be lost forever.

It's been too long though. All traditional forms of Kung Fu have been forgotten and lost to history. They're gone forever.

I want to reply to own post and say that this really upsets me. Look at this picture of shuai jiao fighters from the 1930s.

They all have cauliflower ear and look tough as nails. They're obviously legit fighters.

They're all dead now. Their martial art is gone forever.

 

[bigpunch]

It used to be a real martial art back in the 1800s and earlier.

It's not a martial art anymore. No one's used in real fighting for close to 100 years. That means that all the effective techniques, how to use it in a real fight, and combinations that can be used at a high-level of competition have been forgotten.

Those are what make up a martial art. Almost all Kung Fu is like this. A lot of it can be blamed on the communist government banning martial arts.

The same thing happened in Burma under pol pot. They started executing martial artists, including lethwei fighters. Lethwei is almost the same thing as muay thai. Lethwei ALMOST completely died and was almost lost to history. They legalized it recently and there were just a few old guys still left alive to bring it back.

Imagine no one using boxing in a fight for the next 100 years. The only boxing people train is a some cardio kickboxing classes. All the knowledge that makes it a real martial art would be lost forever.

It's been too long though. All traditional forms of Kung Fu have been forgotten and lost to history. They're gone forever.

From what I've seen I sincerely don't see the difference between their techniques and that of Judokas who have proved Judo can work inside the octagon.


It looks just like Judo with a smaller kimono to me

 

[BJJ_Rage]

There is a guy on the Chinese scene who uses it as his base and he has done very well with it. He is like 14-5 or something like that. Wiz c Cool was his student.

Unlike Judo, SJ allows double legs, single legs, high croch, and all throwing techniques.

Wiz c cool? The ninja lmfao gust guy is a joke...

 

[When You See It]

In Judo it's called being an Uke and you don't resist the technique just go with it so you don't get hurt.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, just that judging a martial art by a cool demo video alone is kind of silly, so I appreciate you posting that match video as well.

 

[BJJ_Rage]

From what I've seen I sincerely don't see the difference between their techniques and that of Judokas who have proved Judo can work inside the octagon.


It looks just like Judo with a smaller kimono to me

Actually looks better than judo, kind of la sambo... It just doesn't have a ground game..

 

[superpunch]

From what I've seen I sincerely don't see the difference between their techniques and that of Judokas who have proved Judo can work inside the octagon.


It looks just like Judo with a smaller kimono to me

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu IS Judo. It most definitely works in the octagon.

"
Mitsuyo Maeda (前田 光世 Maeda Mitsuyo?, born December 18, 1878 in Funazawa village, Hirosaki, Aomori, Japan – November 28, 1941),[1] a Brazilian naturalized as Otávio Maeda (Portuguese pronunciation: [oˈtavju mɐˈedɐ]),[2] was a Japanese judōka (judo expert) and prizefighter in no holds barred competitions. He was also known as Count Combator Conde Koma in Spanish and Portuguese, a nickname he picked up in Spain in 1908. Along with Antônio Soshihiro Satake (another naturalized Brazilian), he pioneered judo in Brazil, the United Kingdom, and other countries.[1]

Maeda was fundamental to the development of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, including through his teaching of Carlos Gracie and others of the Gracie family.[3] He was also a promoter of Japanese emigration to Brazil. Maeda won more than 2,000 professional fights in his career. "

Modern Judo is a bastard child of a martial art. It's not real Judo. The most effective martial aspects of it were removed for entertainment purposes.

Real Judo would also have been lost to history like most Chinese martial arts have been. However, guys like Maeda immigrated to Brazil and kept it alive in that corner of the world until it was rediscovered in the 1990s.

Who knows? Maybe there's old Chinese guys in some remote African village somewhere that have been running real Kung Fu classes and competition and kept it alive for the past 100 years. That's basically what these Japanese guys did in Brazil for Judo.

 

[bigpunch]

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu IS Judo. It most definitely works in the octagon.

"
Mitsuyo Maeda (前田 光世 Maeda Mitsuyo?, born December 18, 1878 in Funazawa village, Hirosaki, Aomori, Japan – November 28, 1941),[1] a Brazilian naturalized as Otávio Maeda (Portuguese pronunciation: [oˈtavju mɐˈedɐ]),[2] was a Japanese judōka (judo expert) and prizefighter in no holds barred competitions. He was also known as Count Combator Conde Koma in Spanish and Portuguese, a nickname he picked up in Spain in 1908. Along with Antônio Soshihiro Satake (another naturalized Brazilian), he pioneered judo in Brazil, the United Kingdom, and other countries.[1]

Maeda was fundamental to the development of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, including through his teaching of Carlos Gracie and others of the Gracie family.[3] He was also a promoter of Japanese emigration to Brazil. Maeda won more than 2,000 professional fights in his career. "

Modern Judo is a bastard child of a martial art. It's not real Judo. The most effective martial aspects of it were removed for entertainment purposes.

Real Judo would also have been lost to history like most Chinese martial arts have been. However, guys like Maeda immigrated to Brazil and kept it alive in that corner of the world until it was rediscovered in the 1990s.

Who knows? Maybe there's old Chinese guys in some remote African village somewhere that have been running real Kung Fu classes and competition and kept it alive for the past 100 years. That's basically what these Japanese guys did for Judo in Brazil.

I agree with you but when I mentioned Judo I meant modern Judo while Jiu jitsu is more like Kosen Judo

It's a shame Judo got so watered down but still it has good techniques

 

[Kim Jong Un]

Actually looks better than judo, kind of la sambo... It just doesn't have a ground game..

Practicing for ground game is not practical for martial purposes. Try working your butterfly guard on the battlefield and you will get a sword jammed in your gut.