Social Nick Fuentes is getting way too popular

[PhitePhan]

I think the extent to which Charlie Kirk was becoming more critical of Israel has been overstated. His letter to Netanyahu is proof of that.

Can you post the letter so we can see what was written?

We have video of him implying false flag, have you seen it?

Also, Kirk never "denied" or turned down $150 million from Israel. It was actually quite the opposite - Israeli donors withdrew their support because Kirk was not being supportive enough.

So Kirk wasn’t being supportive enough to the point donors were abandoning him, but his criticism of Israel is overstated?

 

[Last Samurai]

Can you post the letter so we can see what was written?

We have video of him implying false flag, have you seen it?

I assume you mean Kirk's comments on the PBD podcast. Yep, seen it.

So Kirk wasn’t being supportive enough to the point donors were abandoning him, but his criticism of Israel is overstated?

In the clip I posted Fuentes explains that Israeli donors withdrew their support largely because he refused to dis-invite Tucker Carlson from speaking at a Turning Point USA event. This has been confirmed by leaked messages:

“Just lost another huge Jewish donor. $2 million a year because we won’t cancel Tucker,” Kirk wrote

‘Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes,’ Charlie Kirk wrote in leaked text messages before his murder

Kirk added that donors were “leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.”

forward.com

So yes, Charlie Kirk's criticism of Israel has been overstated. He was pro Israel till the end - but he was also pro free speech - and his inability to speak freely on the subject and invite whoever he wanted to speak at his events was clearly a source of frustration.

 

[SuperAlly]

Topic of the thread you are in ... lost and senile. Speaking of going mental have you heard from Candace, Tim and Ben?

Who, who and who?

 

[SuperAlly]

All that stems from the GOP insane "Israel First" stance and MAGA being really MIGA (Make Israel Great Again) but even then they can't admit it and can't separate even partially from it and try to add nuance to that because they're so deeply controlled by AIPAC and other pro Israeli lobbies.

And just that is the proof that Fuentes and his base need to assert dominance. Because it is indeed proof.

Absolutely deranged

What a sad way to have your life utterly consumed by such delusions and craziness

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

What are you talking about? You commented on my take of the segment without engaging with anything I said. What did you expect in response?

What was there to engage? Someone like Nick Fuentes has the electoral success rate of a time traveling 14th century mongol warlord.

 

[Spam On Rye]

What was there to engage? Someone like Nick Fuentes has the electoral success rate of a time traveling 14th century mongol warlord.

So what. What's that to do with what I said? What's wrong with you bro? Is there someone I can call for you? Do you need help?

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

So what. What's that to do with what I said? What's wrong with you bro? Is there someone I can call for you? Do you need help?

So facts are facts and impotence is impotence.
You can call your inner angel. For yourself.

 

[deadshot138]

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[fingercuffs]

Lol at him being so icky with women he's a virgin and trying to palm it off about being Catholic.

 

[PhitePhan]

I assume you mean Kirk's comments on the PBD podcast. Yep, seen it.



In the clip I posted Fuentes explains that Israeli donors withdrew their support largely because he refused to dis-invite Tucker Carlson from speaking at a Turning Point USA event. This has been confirmed by leaked messages:

“Just lost another huge Jewish donor. $2 million a year because we won’t cancel Tucker,” Kirk wrote

‘Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes,’ Charlie Kirk wrote in leaked text messages before his murder

Kirk added that donors were “leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.”

forward.com

So yes, Charlie Kirk's criticism of Israel has been overstated. He was pro Israel till the end - but he was also pro free speech - and his inability to speak freely on the subject and invite whoever he wanted to speak at his events was clearly a source of frustration.

From what I’ve read, this letter was first revealed to have been sent AFTER Kirk’s death, right? Serious question, what proof do we have that Kirk sent it?

Also, I believe the texts you’re referencing include that Kirk felt “bullied” by Israeli donors and that he had “no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause” yeah? That’s an important piece to leave out, don’t you think? Regardless, I’d say choosing Tucker over Israel (really more so in support of free speech) is legitimate and doesn’t diminish his action.

Further, these texts were from September (4 months after he supposedly sent that letter) which means that even IF the Netanyahu letter is authentic, Kirk had obviously shifted his views- although I believe he had expressed other criticisms of Israeli actions in Gaza since 2023.

So we have him implying stand down orders on 10/7, refusing to deplatform a known antisemite in Tucker, and abandoning the pro Israel cause and feeling bullied - he also mentions Jewish donors pllaying in to Jewish “stereotypes.”

Obviously the term “overstated” is somewhat subjective, but yikes!

 

[HereticBD]

What was there to engage? Someone like Nick Fuentes has the electoral success rate of a time traveling 14th century mongol warlord.

It really just depends on where the winds blow. The young people are getting more extreme by the day. He won't be elected to any office, but somebody who can package his ideals in a certain way, might. Don't think we're some kind of "advanced" society, where it's impossible for the clock to be turned back. There's a reason he's a popular as he is, despite being some pathetic figure who would be laughed at 20 years ago.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

It really just depends on where the winds blow. The young people are getting more extreme by the day. He won't be elected to any office, but somebody who can package his ideals in a certain way, might. Don't think we're some kind of "advanced" society, where it's impossible for the clock to be turned back. There's a reason he's a popular as he is, despite being some pathetic figure who would be laughed at 20 years ago.

The clock can be turned back but not that far.Who will package mass murder was awesome and get elected? How does one go about being a good white separatist candidate when the demographics are what they are?

Vitaly licking nutella of butts was popular. Does not mean people took him seriously.

 

[HereticBD]

The clock can be turned back but not that far.

I don't know. History rhymes and all that...

The thing with this environment right now, is that you have two extremes and there are only two choices. As long as one side doesn't just end democracy, it will get crazy real fast. The Left HATES white people. It wouldn't take a whole lot to push that group of people to an extreme, if the other extreme side really started to implement what they would like to. Even with the AWFL's, it's all fun and games until they feel the discrimination.

Who will package mass murder was awesome and get elected? How does one go about being a good white separatist candidate when the demographics are what they are?

Some would say that Trump already did that. A rather controversial Muslim was just elected Mayor in New York City of all places. Nothing is set in stone.

 

[Crazy Source]

The Left HATES white people.

I am a white person. Very leftist. Clean the moose shit out of your ears.

 

[Last Samurai]

From what I’ve read, this letter was first revealed to have been sent AFTER Kirk’s death, right? Serious question, what proof do we have that Kirk sent it?

Also, I believe the texts you’re referencing include that Kirk felt “bullied” by Israeli donors and that he had “no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause” yeah? That’s an important piece to leave out, don’t you think? Regardless, I’d say choosing Tucker over Israel (really more so in support of free speech) is legitimate and doesn’t diminish his action.

Further, these texts were from September (4 months after he supposedly sent that letter) which means that even IF the Netanyahu letter is authentic, Kirk had obviously shifted his views- although I believe he had expressed other criticisms of Israeli actions in Gaza since 2023.

So we have him implying stand down orders on 10/7, refusing to deplatform a known antisemite in Tucker, and abandoning the pro Israel cause and feeling bullied - he also mentions Jewish donors pllaying in to Jewish “stereotypes.”

Obviously the term “overstated” is somewhat subjective, but yikes!

The letter is real. No one from Kirk's team disputes that.

In the leaked texts he does say he felt 'bullied' by Israel, which is a perfectly normal response to finding out that Jewish donors are pulling the plug just because he refused to dis-invite Tucker. They were essentially telling him who he can and cannot invite to speak at his events.

When I say Kirk's criticism of Israel has been 'overstated', I obviously mean by those who blame Israel for his death. They claim that he had turned on Israel and that is why they killed him. This narrative is not supported by the facts.

Charlie Kirk was very pro Israel (as evidenced by the letter to Netanyahu). Israel had no motive to kill him, and anyone pushing this conspiracy theory is either low iq or using Charlie Kirk's death to personally benefit from all the ad revenue that this controversy is generating for them.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

Some would say that Trump already did that. A rather controversial Muslim was just elected Mayor in New York City of all places. Nothing is set in stone.

Trump ran as white separatist? Mandani directly advocates for mass murder?

 

[PhitePhan]

The letter is real. No one from Kirk's team disputes that.

In the leaked texts he does say he felt 'bullied' by Israel, which is a perfectly normal response to finding out that Jewish donors are pulling the plug just because he refused to dis-invite Tucker. They were essentially telling him who he can and cannot invite to speak at his events.

When I say Kirk's criticism of Israel has been 'overstated', I obviously mean by those who blame Israel for his death. They claim that he had turned on Israel and that is why they killed him. This narrative is not supported by the facts.

Charlie Kirk was very pro Israel (as evidenced by the letter to Netanyahu). Israel had no motive to kill him, and anyone pushing this conspiracy theory is either low iq or using Charlie Kirk's death to personally benefit from all the ad revenue that this controversy is generating for them.

Has Kirk’s camp confirmed the authenticity of the letter? Per ChatGPT the answer is no…

“Based on available reporting as of December 14, 2025, there is no indication that Charlie Kirk’s camp has issued a statement specifically confirming or denying the authenticity of the letter to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu itself.”

So our main source of “evidence” that Kirk supported Israel is a 5/2025 letter that nobody knew about until Netanyahu revealed it AFTER Kirk’s death… a letter that has not been authenticated. That’s a bit flimsy. Now, does that mean Israel killed Kirk? Obviously not. My guess is the letter is just propaganda and Netanyahu like others is taking advantage of his death.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

If you think about it, it makes total sense that the new hero for the conservative movement would be a gay loser.

You see, they had to cast aside guys like Rogan because he has touched pussy and is successful. They will never do those things. So they had to pick a guy who is a total loser. They can identify with that more easily.

 

[HereticBD]

Trump ran as white separatist?

Separatist? No. "Supremacist"...some might say yes. He definitely won with some baggage in that area, real or imagined. 20 years ago, he wouldn't have sniffed the nomination, let alone the Presidency. A guy like Nick Fuentes also would not have been a popular figure, and would have had his views relegated to a guest spot on a daytime talk show about white supremacists.

I'm just saying these things can snowball quickly, when both sides are escalating their rhetoric and extreme views, with no end in sight. It's not out of this world that you eventually wind up with a guy like Fuentes near or at the top of the ticket, as extremes will be countered with extremes and both sides only care about winning and punishing the other side by any means necessary. Democrats just elected a guy who said he'd like to kill his political opponents and watch their children die in their arms. He wouldn't have had a chance a couple decades ago either.

 

[Last Samurai]

Has Kirk’s camp confirmed the authenticity of the letter? Per ChatGPT the answer is no…

“Based on available reporting as of December 14, 2025, there is no indication that Charlie Kirk’s camp has issued a statement specifically confirming or denying the authenticity of the letter to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu itself.”

So our main source of “evidence” that Kirk supported Israel is a 5/2025 letter that nobody knew about until Netanyahu revealed it AFTER Kirk’s death… a letter that has not been authenticated. That’s a bit flimsy. Now, does that mean Israel killed Kirk? Obviously not. My guess is the letter is just propaganda and Netanyahu like others is taking advantage of his death.

I think the fact that Charlie Kirk's camp (including the wife) did not deny it's authenticity is in itself quite telling.


But for the sake of argument, let us play devil's advocate. Let's say Netanyahu faked a letter and leaked it to his old pal Rupert Murdoch at the New York Post. Is that possible? Absolutely.

One problem though. What if the wife publishes the real letter? Wouldn't that expose Netanyahu's wicked plot? Wouldn't that lead to him looking guilty as hell?