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Social Nick Fuentes is getting way too popular



I haven't met any right-wingers that have a high opinion of Fuentes.


Probably because you're an old-timer like most everyone else still on this forum!

And Yacoby, what a joke. I bet he'd have no problem with Fuentes if Fuentes "limited" his shit talk towards every other minority group, no matter how unfair and relentless, except the one Yacoby might just belong to. Surprise!
 
Leftists don’t do shit for the working class, all you do is support homosexuals and import scum to take jobs.
Last time I checked, LGBTQ people can be working class too.
Aw, are you upset that immigrants took your bus boy job? Or did some immigrant take a job you were doing and do it better than you? That seems more likely.
I’d rather share my country with a hardworking immigrant them than a hateful bigot like you any day of the week.

At best, the government drones you support give lip service to the needs of the working class while pushing their insulated big-government shit, which has been proven again and again to be poison to real workers.

There’s a reason only the elites and the dregs supported leftist causes. You aren’t for the working man, you are for the boot on the working man’s neck.
You’re just lazily spewing buzzwords and not really saying much. I just gave you a whole list of things that progressives have done and advocate for that benefits workers. Let’s hear your rebuttal to those specific points. You can do better than “boo hoo, immigrants!” and “boo hoo, some people are gay!” can’t you? Eh…maybe you can’t.

Let’s deal in some facts.

Since WW2, job creation, GDP growth, personal income growth, and stock market growth have all been better under Dem administrations.
Economists Alan Blinder and Mark Watson:
“The superiority of economic performance under Democrats rather than Republicans is nearly ubiquitous; it holds almost regardless of how you define success.”

Data from the Economic Policy Group confirms this. Their report came out just last year and found that since 1949:

  • Annual real GDP growth is 1.2 percentage points faster during Democratic administrations than Republican ones (3.79% versus 2.60%).
  • Total job growth has averaged 2.5% annually during Democratic administrations, while it is barely over 1% annually during Republican administrations. Applied to today’s total workforce, this would imply nearly 2.4 million more jobs created every year under Democratic administrations.
  • The Democratic advantage is even larger in private job growth than it is for total job growth. Notably, business investment is higher during Democratic administrations, with investment growth running at more than double the pace than it does during Republican ones.
  • Average rates of inflation—both overall and “core” measures that exclude volatile food and energy prices—are slightly lower during Democratic administrations.
  • Families in the bottom 20% of the income distribution experience 188% faster income growth during Democratic administrations.
 
The demonizing of Fuentes probably won't work because an increasing number of people are going to feel that spreading the truth about our government being bought and paid for outweighs any racist beliefs he might have. People don't want a foreign country or people who put another country first to have this level of influence. Our government being bought and paid for and not a legitimate democracy is considerably bigger an issue than any unsavory beliefs Nick might have.
 
Last time I checked, LGBTQ people can be working class too.
Aw, are you upset that immigrants took your bus boy job? Or did some immigrant take a job you were doing and do it better than you? That seems more likely.
I’d rather share my country with a hardworking immigrant them than a hateful bigot like you any day of the week.


You’re just lazily spewing buzzwords and not really saying much. I just gave you a whole list of things that progressives have done and advocate for that benefits workers. Let’s hear your rebuttal to those specific points. You can do better than “boo boo, immigrants!” and “boo hoo, some people are gay!” can’t you? Eh…maybe you can’t.

Let’s deal in some facts.

Since WW2, job creation, GDP growth, personal income growth, and stock market growth have all been better under Dem administrations.
Economists Alan Blinder and Mark Watson:
“The superiority of economic performance under Democrats rather than Republicans is nearly ubiquitous; it holds almost regardless of how you define success.”

Data from the Economic Policy Group confirms this. Their report came out just last year and found: that since 1949:

  • Annual real GDP growth is 1.2 percentage points faster during Democratic administrations than Republican ones (3.79% versus 2.60%).
  • Total job growth has averaged 2.5% annually during Democratic administrations, while it is barely over 1% annually during Republican administrations. Applied to today’s total workforce, this would imply nearly 2.4 million more jobs created every year under Democratic administrations.
  • The Democratic advantage is even larger in private job growth than it is for total job growth. Notably, business investment is higher during Democratic administrations, with investment growth running at more than double the pace than it does during Republican ones.
  • Average rates of inflation—both overall and “core” measures that exclude volatile food and energy prices—are slightly lower during Democratic administrations.
  • Families in the bottom 20% of the income distribution experience 188% faster income growth during Democratic administrations.
What’s that? Idiotic lies? Hey, who dies the working class vote for? Because the Democratic Party exists to steal wealth from the working class to give to your big government overlords. Also, holy shit, this site is insufferable when we can’t mute “mods” like yourself. We traded Islam for you, and I had you muted before. Nobody needs to read your idiotic braindead left wing takes, but you and sinister are just fucking vomiting bullshit.
 


Look at these old crusty pieces of shit talking complete bullshit. These neocon hucksters expect the young crowd to take them serious.

Of course Fuentes will get popular; these guys are wayyyy too full of shit and not nearly as smart or relevant as they think they are.
 
The demonizing of Fuentes probably won't work because an increasing number of people are going to feel that spreading the truth about our government being bought and paid for outweighs any racist beliefs he might have. People don't want a foreign country or people who put another country first to have this level of influence. Our government being bought and paid for and not a legitimate democracy is considerably bigger an issue than any unsavory beliefs Nick might have.
All true, however he seems to be a convenient release valve of sorts… he may have some right ideas (as you stated above) but his stink is too much and will turn off a bunch of folks from the start. This keeps his most important ideas from ever gaining any traction. In my opinion, he’s almost certainly an Alex Jones type character being used (wittingly or unwittingly) to serve the establishment.

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I haven't met any right-wingers that have a high opinion of Fuentes.

Honest question, not trying to instigate, do you hang out with right wingers and discuss Fuentes? Or do you mean on social media/forums?
I try and keep politics out of my personal life here, I was the same in San Jose until someone spoke to me about it and that was a pretty safe haven for lefties unlike here in the desert haha.
 
All true, however he seems to be a convenient release valve of sorts… he may have some right ideas (as you stated above) but his stink is too much and will turn off a bunch of folks from the start. This keeps his most important ideas from ever gaining any traction. In my opinion, he’s almost certainly an Alex Jones type character being used (wittingly or unwittingly) to serve the establishment.

Obligatory

<EdgyBrah>
If the establishment is using him, they're playing with fire. He already has considerably more influence and acceptance than Jones ever had and he's a relatively sharp guy able to articulate his views. It also helps that his main view, the one getting him famous, is a layup to argue because it's so in your face and self evident at this point.
 
What’s that? Idiotic lies? Hey, who dies the working class vote for? Because the Democratic Party exists to steal wealth from the working class to give to your big government overlords. Also, holy shit, this site is insufferable when we can’t mute “mods” like yourself. We traded Islam for you, and I had you muted before. Nobody needs to read your idiotic braindead left wing takes, but you and sinister are just fucking vomiting bullshit.

That went about how I expected: I supply you with facts, data and statistics, and you respond by throwing an emotional fit. Predictable.
That’s because I believe the things I do because I actually care about what’s best for the country and I have data to support my positions, whereas you believe what you do for emotional reasons and as some sort of fucked up identity marker.

Look: you replied to me. you started this convo. Just scroll past my posts if you don’t like them bud, it’s not a big deal.

also “Aw, are you upset that immigrants took your bus boy job?” Is such an indicator of where the fucking leftists are at. They pretend to care about the working class while raising their noses to it. All leftists are pathetic spoiled children.
I’m part of the working class <lol>
You made the dumb claim that we on the left are “importing” people—sorry, you didn’t even say people because you don’t view them as human, you called them “scum”— to take American jobs, and statistically, new immigrants tend get jobs in industries with less emphasis on language proficiency, like hospitality, construction, etc.
— I could show you data on that too, but let’s be honest, you’re not gonna read that shit anyway.

For the record, busboys work their asses off. That’s why Dems have supported things like ending the sub-minimum wage for tipped workers, raising the federal minimum wage for all workers (routinely blocked by Republicans) introduced things like the TIPS Act and Raise the Wage Act, it’s why we champion educational grants, work to improve education, lower college costs, pursue student loan forgiveness…

I could go on, but why bother, when you can’t address a single point I’ve made? Next time you decide to @ me, be ready to debate more and whine less.
 
That went about how I expected: I supply you with facts, data and statistics, and you respond by throwing an emotional fit. Predictable.
That’s because I believe the things I do because I actually care about what’s best for the country and I have data to support my positions, whereas you believe what you do for emotional reasons and as some sort of fucked up identity marker.

Look: you replied to me. you started this convo. Just scroll past my posts if you don’t like them bud, it’s not a big deal.


I’m part of the working class <lol>
You made the dumb claim that we on the let are “importing” people—sorry, you didn’t even say people because you don’t view them as human, you called them “scum”— to take American jobs, and statistically, new immigrants tend get jobs in industries with less emphasis on language proficiency, like hospitality, construction, etc.
— I could show you data on that too, but let’s be honest, you’re not gonna read that shit anyway.

For the record, busboys work their asses off. That’s why Dems have supported things like ending the sub-minimum wage for tipped workers, raising the federal minimum wage for all workers (routinely blocked by Republicans) introduced things like the TIPS Act and Raise the Wage Act, it’s why we champion educational grants, work to improve education, lower college costs, pursue student loan forgiveness…

I could go on, but why bother, when you can’t address a single point I’ve made? Next time you decide to @ me, be ready to debate more and whine less.

“Part of the working class” while laughing at working class jobs. Like I said, pathetic. Make all the excuses you want.
 
Honest question, not trying to instigate, do you hang out with right wingers and discuss Fuentes? Or do you mean on social media/forums?
IRL.
Got friends all the way back to elementary school I still hang with on weekends.

I try and keep politics out of my personal life here, I was the same in San Jose until someone spoke to me about it and that was a pretty safe haven for lefties unlike here in the desert haha.
We're adults so we always keep it respectful and keep the temperature low.

One of my oldest friends was a big BernieBro in 2016 & 2020, and I told him he was controlled opposition for Clinton & whomever would be the nominee in 2020.. which was Biden.

Basically I said hardcore Democrats were embracing Socialism but mainstream voters weren't ready, and the DNC powerbrokers knew this and would tell Bernie to back down and Bernie would back down because he didn't have the leverage... Or spine... For the backstage conflict.

I was right in the end, and he was pissed for a good year about it.

So what I was wrong about? Trump's chances in the primaries in 2016, general election, and his 1st term. Thought he was a joke at first and he would just be as President what Romney would have been... A Rhino moderate Republican.
 
IRL.
Got friends all the way back to elementary school I still hang with on weekends.


We're adults so we always keep it respectful and keep the temperature low.

One of my oldest friends was a big BernieBro in 2016 & 2020, and I told him he was controlled opposition for Clinton & whomever would be the nominee in 2020.. which was Biden.

Basically I said hardcore Democrats were embracing Socialism but mainstream voters weren't ready, and the DNC powerbrokers knew this and would tell Bernie to back down and Bernie would back down because he didn't have the leverage... Or spine... For the backstage conflict.

I was right in the end, and he was pissed for a good year about it.

So what I was wrong about? Trump's chances in the primaries in 2016, general election, and his 1st term. Thought he was a joke at first and he would just be as President what Romney would have been... A Rhino moderate Republican.
Very longwinded way around to not answering the question about Fuentes with your rightwing buddies but no worries haha.

It's always a bit difficult in a foreign country and I even kept my gob shut at work in the UK when Tony Blair got in which I wasn't happy about being I was a staunch Conservative.

At work here I think there were only 2 Trump supporters at my company and I didn't volunteer my political leaning, I'm the same in my town now being everyone could be a client at some point and it's full of gossips.

But anywhore, it's nice you have friends from all those years ago. Kinda jelly being I've moved so much and only talk to school friends on Facebook.
 
Very longwinded way around to not answering the question about Fuentes with your rightwing buddies but no worries haha.
Fingers, you asked two questions -

"Honest question, not trying to instigate, do you hang out with right wingers and discuss Fuentes? Or do you mean on social media/forums?"

I'm going to credit you the intelligence to figure out that a group of friends don't all have the exact political views or discuss one political commentator.

Or is that a mistake?
 
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