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I will take this careful analysis into account during future conversations about the state of MMA and it's athletes.
Thank you
Thank you
I agree with you but the comment was in response to someone claiming that bringing up his poor boxing outings some how invalidates my thread lol, no him being 0-2 and getting smoked last time proved he can't compete there.So, nothing that wasn't already known. A complete novice boxer getting blown up by a champion boxer is not, in fact, news. That Ngannou couldn't beat a pasty beach ball filled with fat and alcohol and glued to a broken couch, however, is of interest. That Tyson Fury can walk into a boxing gym without being laughed out onto the street is inexplicable.
It makes perfect sense because that is a stupid statementHow lol what you said makes zero sense.
"That level" being top 3 HW boxers in the world? What a revelation.WTF the Joshua fight says everything about his boxing that he isn't at that level lol.
His record speaks for itself his mma record people getting upset over facts on here lol, all because UFC marketing machine sells lies get over it.I will take this careful analysis into account during future conversations about the state of MMA and it's athletes.
Thank you
It doesn't he's 0-2 in boxing got ktfo how does it invalidate what I said about his career, if anything I've proved my point that he's overrated.It makes perfect sense because that is a stupid statement
Well personally I think anyone in the top ten gets him.It makes perfect sense because that is a stupid statement
"That level" being top 3 HW boxers in the world? What a revelation.
No one thought he was a top 3 HW boxer in the world. He fought to lose and get paid. Zero of the boxing matches he's had were meant to place him around where people assumed he'd be at. Fury is the second best HW and Ngannou presented some difficulties for him. AJ is the third best HW and knocked him out. The fact you think that is some proving point is really sad.It doesn't he's 0-2 in boxing got ktfo how does it invalidate what I said about his career, if anything I've proved my point that he's overrated.
I mean i get that your giving him a taste of his own medicine but GOOD LORD lolAnd you don't think this legacy is paper thin OP?
Andre Gusmao: beat a guy who went 0-2 in the UFC and who was released after the fight
Stephen Bonnar: good win
Jake O’Brien: beat a guy who was released after the fight
Matt Hamill: lost to a guy who was later knocked out by Julian Marquez
Brandon Vera: beat a guy who was later knocked out by Arjun Bhullar
Vladimir Matyushenko: beat a 39-year opponent
Ryan Bader: good win
Mauricio Rua: good win
Quinton Jackson: beat a guy who subsequently went 0-2 and was released
Lyoto Machida: beat a guy who was on a one fight winning streak
Rashad Evans: beat a former training partner that was past his prime
Vitor Belfort: beat a 35-year-old opponent that had not won a fight at LHW in over 6 years
Chael Sonnen: beat a 36-year-old career MW
Alexander Gustafsson: good win
Glover Teixeira: beat a 34-year-old opponent in the 25th fight of his professional career
Daniel Cormier: beat a 35-year-old opponent that was killing himself to make the weight
Ovince St Preux: beat a guy on a one fight win streak
Anthony Smith: big deal
Dominick Reyes: no one recognizes this highway robbery as a legitimate win
Ciryl Gane: beat an injured fighter that has been part time since Ngannou took his 0
The whole point of my thread here is that he's overrated his career as a whole, I've already broken down his opponents if anyone takes a sincere look at it you'd have to admit that its riddled with past it opponents and low level guys plus his boxing endeavor was a total failure in terms of competitiveness sure he made money but if that's all he's in it for at this point then I would say his career has been lackluster.No one thought he was a top 3 HW boxer in the world. He fought to lose and get paid. Zero of the boxing matches he's had were meant to place him around where people assumed he'd be at. Fury is the second best HW and Ngannou presented some difficulties for him. AJ is the third best HW and knocked him out. The fact you think that is some proving point is really sad.
Matter of fact, you thinking that matters is a bigger indictment on your ability to reason than his boxing record is on his career
How would one know that such a ridiculous comment is meant to be a joke?Imagine thinking I was serious with this post.
You just outed yourself as a dumbass
I have watched Ngannou since he came on the scene in UFC and even saw his first loss against Cisse and after hearing how so many modern fans speak about him I gotta say he's overrated.
A break down of his record proves this quite clearly.
Luis Henrique: A irrelevant low level opponent but that's fine its his first fight in UFC.
Curtis Blaydes: This is a legit win for his second fight no doubt.
Bojan Mihajlović: Another low level irrelavent opponent.
Anthony Hamilton: Low level opponent that fought in regionals in Canada.
Andrei Arlovski: Complete joke fighting a guy that's career began in 1997 in 2017 that's 20 years later let that sink in.
Alistair Overeem: Washed up Pride fighter and another one from the 90's a past it fighter for sure.
Stipe Miocic: Takes his second loss against a legit opponent and I will say he showed a lot of heart in this fight but nonetheless its a loss not a bad one.
Derrick Lewis: In this fight he broke mentally when he faced someone with similar size and strength, not a good loss at all.
Curtis Blaydes: Rematch due to the cut in the first fight, good legit win but I feel as though Ngannou had his number all along.
Cain Velasquez: This is a pathetic match up considering Cain could not even shoot for a td and the reason the fight ended was because of Cain's knee absurd match.
Junior Dos Santos: Another guy that was on a downward skid, this fight would have meant someone a few years earlier too little too late.
Jairzinho Rozenstruik: This is legit for sure however Rozenstruik ain't anything special.
Stipe Miocic: Another over the hill guy who is 40 plus lol, ya I think the first time around was the time when it would have mattered having a win against Stipe.
Ciryl Gane: This to me is truly one of Ngannou's best wins and could have easily been a loss for him considering the trouble Francis had getting within range, I was impressed with the td's and wrestling though.
So that's his mma career so far to me this is overrated for sure there's like 2 or 3 legit wins mixed with a bunch of guys that were old and past it or just not very good and being in the UFC doesn't automatically mean you're good.
His boxing career speaks for itself 0-2 and got KO'd last time.
So people claiming he's the best HW and would beat this guy or that guy need to stop and take a hard look at his career before saying such things.
Holy f**k guys I can't stand Jones the goat PED cheat get it through heads arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhYour hero Jones hid from every single HW you mentioned until Francis was gone, and was given the gift of Gane.
no sir his best wins where should be retired fighters like cain jds werdum and many moreThis would work better if HW wasn't a dog shit division that had Stipe pretty much do the same thing beating "washed up fighters" during his title reign.
They both did the best they could with the opposition they faced, and that's what matters.
to be honest jon jones is the most skilled fighter on this planetHe thought Francis' win over Gane was his best performance.
He probably busted in his pants when JJ tapped him.
HW GOAT.
He was the champ at the time. The best HW on the roster at the time.Haha LOL Stipe 40 plus ya super legit win.
Dude why do you care about steroids lol, not even the ufc cares about it, they dropped usada and now do “in house testing”, aka do what you wantThose guys are all overrated. Pride rigged fights and people used steroids.
Sorry bud but none of those guys were good
I don't careDude why do you care about steroids lol, not even the ufc cares about it, they dropped usada and now do “in house testing”, aka do what you want