NFL Discussion v52: LOL Raiders

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People don't even mention the reason for dog fights is to bet on the outcome. Illegal gambling is supposed to result in a lifetime ban as it can lead to a situation where a player might cheat in a game to cover a gambling debt. It also bring him in contact with other gamblers. A quarterback is in the perfect position to alter a game. Someone who would have dogs fight each other for money wouldn't think twice about throwing a game for money. Goodell was an idiot for allowing him back in the league and any team that signs him has to wonder when he misses a pass or throws an interception.

Vick doesn't have to try to throw games, it comes naturally
 
i disagree. What dante did was an accident, a horrible stupid accident but he didnt wanna kill no one. Vick wanted to kill and torture dogs, and did it numerous times

Driving drunk is a accident?

Learn something new everyday I guess.

I suppose Sharper accidentally stuck his dick in all those women as well then?
 
Driving drunk is a accident?

Learn something new everyday I guess.

I suppose Sharper accidentally stuck his dick in all those women as well then?

Agreed.

People that write off drunk driving as an accident confuse me. Always seemed really idiotic to me when people try to do so.
 
Driving drunk is a accident?

Learn something new everyday I guess.

I suppose Sharper accidentally stuck his dick in all those women as well then?
drunk driving wasnt the accident, killing someone was. the death was the big deal

involuntary manslaughter is always a accident

ive drivin a little buzzed before, purposely, but i didnt want to kill anyone
 
Negligence was still the cause and by getting behind the wheel he made a conscious (or drunk, doesn't make it better) decision that he was okay with taking the risk of killing someone.

I will never be even a little bit okay with it, but this isn't really a topic for the sports-bar anyway.
 
The jets are ready to contend???

Have a veteran Qb is a good thing, can't go all year with McGloin and Pryor.

Schaub > vick. Vick is so overrated it it's not even funny. Wish I had a Qb who barely completes 50% of his passes.

I'm not a Vick nut hugger thinking he is close to elite, but Schaub barely was good throwing to the best wide out at the time. Vick is starting caliber, Charlie Whitehurst could have done what Schaub did in that offense.
 
drunk driving wasnt the accident, killing someone was. the death was the big deal

involuntary manslaughter is always a accident

ive drivin a little buzzed before, purposely, but i didnt want to kill anyone

If he didn't drive drunk no one would have died, fuck him
 
I'm not a Vick nut hugger thinking he is close to elite, but Schaub barely was good throwing to the best wide out at the time. Vick is starting caliber, Charlie Whitehurst could have done what Schaub did in that offense.

Vick is garbage. His numbers would suggest he isn't starting material
 
Lol. Goes to show how sensitive people are in America. Portraying a dog (an animal) as an equal to a human being. As long as Vick didn't torture and murder a human being, i'm fine with that.
 
Lol. Goes to show how sensitive people are in America. Portraying a dog (an animal) as an equal to a human being. As long as Vick didn't torture and murder a human being, i'm fine with that.

So if it's not human then it's ok to torture and murder it?

You are a fucking moron
 
So the Raiders are paying Schaub $11 mil this year and had to give up a draft pick.

Vick on a one year deal for $5 mil sounds like a steal.
 
Didnt stallworth sleep it off until the morning hours? And someone jaywalked out in front of him from behind a parked car?
 
He also never tried to fight anything. Never proclaimed innocence and showed remorse. Thats gotta count for something.

Vick did jail time and lost a countless amount of money. That more than makes up for being somewhat involved in dog fighting.

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and gtfo with the illegal gambling shit. Nobody even gave a damn about that
 
If the Raiders signed Vick instead of Schaub Alex would be shitting on the move. Guarantee it.

I wonder if theyll actually pursue Djax. Vick, Desean, and Decker could be nasty until Vick gets crippled.
 
If the Raiders signed Vick instead of Schaub Alex would be shitting on the move. Guarantee it.

I wonder if theyll actually pursue Djax. Vick, Desean, and Decker could be nasty until Vick gets crippled.

I just think it's interesting that the Jets got the better QB for half the money and no draft pick. But I guess the Raiders are trying to reach the minimum spending limit.
 
Yeah, seriously, how the F does Matt Schaub get to make 11 million after last season? He should be grateful the league will still use him. I remember being shocked when Jake Delhomme got $20 million guaranteed after his five INT game in the playoffs. Teams pay even the shitty QBs.
 
I just think it's interesting that the Jets got the better QB for half the money and no draft pick. But I guess the Raiders are trying to reach the minimum spending limit.

Vick isnt better when you consider he never stays on the field.

Well see how he does with, so far, one capable receiver.
 
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