Law New York Ends Religious Exemptions for Vaccination

[TheComebackKid]

Essentially, what it boils down to is your child is much more likely to die or become seriously ill from the actual disease than from any perceived threats from getting the vaccine.

That's not the dilemma here. False premise.

 

[Arashikage4Life]

The dilemma is people being stubborn and not liking being told what to do by the government, whether it's in their best interest or not.

 

[TheComebackKid]

The dilemma is people being stubborn and not liking being told what to do by the government, whether it's in their best interest or not.

Exactly. And you need to respect that. We don't want the government forcing us to take medicines and substances.

 

[Arashikage4Life]

Exactly. And you need to respect that. We don't want the government forcing us to take medicines and substances.

I don't have to respect shit when the public's health is concerned. It's one thing if the government was trying to do this with no proof of the effectiveness of vaccines but it's been backed by scientists and doctors the world over.

 

[CauseImbetta]

Lol @ people who believe in mythology and superstition.

 

[TheComebackKid]

I don't have to respect shit when the public's health is concerned.

So this is all about public, huh? That's what you're saying? Ok, I'll ask again:

Isn't it true that most children, like 99.8%, who contract diseases like measles suffer no lasting or significant effects from the disease? Isn't it also true that once a child gets the disease they become immune for life?

This is not a crisis.

It's one thing if the government was trying to do this with no proof of the effectiveness of vaccines but it's been backed by scientists and doctors the world over.

Again, the fight isn't over whether or not this or that particular vaccine is good or bad for us. The fight is over our ability to choose for ourselves.

 

[Gregolian]

Isn't it true that most children, like 99.8%, who contract diseases like measles suffer no lasting or significant effects from the disease? Isn't it also true that once a child gets the disease they become immune for life?

Do some fucking reading.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/measles

Some snippets:

• Even though a safe and cost-effective vaccine is available, in 2017, there were 110 000 measles deaths globally, mostly among children under the age of five.
• Measles vaccination resulted in a 80% drop in measles deaths between 2000 and 2017 worldwide.
• In 2017, about 85% of the world's children received one dose of measles vaccine by their first birthday through routine health services – up from 72% in 2000.
• During 2000-2017, measles vaccination prevented an estimated 21.1 million deaths making measles vaccine one of the best buys in public health

Measles is a highly contagious, serious disease caused by a virus. Before the introduction of measles vaccine in 1963 and widespread vaccination, major epidemics occurred approximately every 2–3 years and measles caused an estimated 2.6 million deaths each year.

Yeah, measles is just like the common cold, you deal with it for a couple weeks then it goes away.

Unvaccinated young children are at highest risk of measles and its complications, including death. Unvaccinated pregnant women are also at risk. Any non-immune person (who has not been vaccinated or was vaccinated but did not develop immunity) can become infected.

Measles is still common in many developing countries – particularly in parts of Africa and Asia. The overwhelming majority (more than 95%) of measles deaths occur in countries with low per capita incomes and weak health infrastructures.

Measles outbreaks can be particularly deadly in countries experiencing or recovering from a natural disaster or conflict. Damage to health infrastructure and health services interrupts routine immunization, and overcrowding in residential camps greatly increases the risk of infection.

For the morons in the back:

Unvaccinated young children are at highest risk of measles and its complications, including death. Unvaccinated pregnant women are also at risk. Any non-immune person (who has not been vaccinated or was vaccinated but did not develop immunity) can become infected.

 

[TheComebackKid]

Do some fucking reading.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/measles

Some snippets:


Yeah, measles is just like the common cold, you deal with it for a couple weeks then it goes away.




For the morons in the back:

How about you do some math.

Population in 1963: 189M

3M/189M = .01%

Again, why do we need to give up sovereignty over our bodies to ensure the safety of .01% of the population?

 

[Gregolian]

How about you do some math.

Population in 1963: 189M

3M/189M = .01%

Again, why do we need to give up sovereignty over our bodies to ensure the safety of .01% of the population?

So, you're willing to sacrifice like.. a million people most between the ages of newborn to about 10 or so just so you can take a risk based on some religious reason? Which, BY THE WAY... I'm friends with Catholics, Lutherans, Muslims, Mormons, Buddhists, and people that fall in some form of wannabe Pagan that were ALL FUCKING VACCINATED so what religion are you all practicing that requires no vaccines? DumbFuckContraionism?

 

[*Z*]

Horrid!

Forcing mothers to inject known, dangerous substances into their children is now nearly 100% accepted by those who scream about women's rights to choose.

This will not go well.

Let me know when someone having an abortion starts spreading potentially life threatening diseases.

 

[vengeful]

How about you do some math.

Population in 1963: 189M

3M/189M = .01%

Again, why do we need to give up sovereignty over our bodies to ensure the safety of .01% of the population?

Check your math bro, just off the top of my head 3m/100m would be 3% so 3m/200 million would be 1.5%. which means 3m/189m must be greater than 1.5%

 

[PhitePhan]

Nobody was forced before antivax movement buddy, religious and other personal exemptions are now being stripped directly as a result of the anti Vax movement and subsequent outbreaks

Like all of your other postings on this subject, you have no clue what you're talking about. Besides that, you're previous comment is just plain dumb...

 

[PhitePhan]

Lol @ people who believe in mythology and superstition.

What's ironic is that this comment applies just as aptly to the provax folks as the religious. It is a similar thinking that keeps both groups from recognizing uncomfortable truths about their respective religion...

 

[PhitePhan]

How about you do some math.

Population in 1963: 189M

3M/189M = .01%

Again, why do we need to give up sovereignty over our bodies to ensure the safety of .01% of the population?

And to clarify, the 3M are the ones who catch the disease... out of those folks, ~2/10,000 will actually die (and those are very specific groups of susceptibles: Vit deficient, immunocompromised, etc). It's almost like the measles just "triggers" and underlying condition (a favorite argument used to minimize the vax/autism link).

 

[TheComebackKid]

So, you're willing to sacrifice like.. a million people most between the ages of newborn to about 10 or so just so you can take a risk based on some religious reason?

Most of those million can be saved with some basic nutrition. And no, not for religious reasons. Where did you even get that from?

Which, BY THE WAY... I'm friends with Catholics, Lutherans, Muslims, Mormons, Buddhists, and people that fall in some form of wannabe Pagan that were ALL FUCKING VACCINATED so what religion are you all practicing that requires no vaccines? DumbFuckContraionism?

I hate to break it to you but all of the friends you just mentioned are Pagans. If this was a religious issue I definitely wouldn't take cues from them.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Like all of your other postings on this subject, you have no clue what you're talking about. Besides that, you're previous comment is just plain dumb...

Ah yes I'm dumb not the one taking advice from Jenny McCarthy

 

[zebby23]

Yep. What happened to "my body, my choice?"

Well, since it hurts other people....

 

[HunterSdVa29]

I have a few people from HS on my FB that are antivax

The only reason i don't delete them is A) never done that before and B) they are unintentionally hilarious

 

[HunterSdVa29]

How is this even a thing?

I could get maybe electing to NOT get a chicken pox vaccine or something elective like that for awhile but hasn't the measles and polio vax's been proven to be, well, safe?

You literally can't go on deployment in the Military w/o getting Anthrax, Smallpox, Hep B/C, etc.....I don't even mean to a warzone, you can't get even stationed OCONUS without (like Japan, Korea, or Germany)

Not that military medicine is the world's greatest, but it's literally a condition for being deployable (the main objective of the US military)

 

[Oeshon]

Well, since it hurts other people....

So do a lot of things. If you don't shower, you can pass skin infections over to other people like ringworm, or stuff like nits in your hair. There isn't a government law mandating personal health though.

Hell, I could never wash my hands and wipe shit all over the place and harm a bunch of people. Still no law there compelling me.

I am vaccinated (by choice), but its a different thing to force it on someone. its also quite funny to hold conflicting views regarding "my body my choice"