Crime New Poll shows Obama would destroy Trump if they both ran in 2028

Polls said Kamala had a shot as well. I liked Obama, but he didn't do anything he said he was going to do--Close the border, cut government waste and fraud. You know who is doing that right now?

Dozens of speeches on him saying mass immigration is illegal and wrong and he will stop it. Even so much as saying kids might not even stay. And tons of videos on him saying the government is filled with waste and fraud.
 
Any other not shocking news? The Democrats biggest mistake was not finding someone with charisma after Obama.

Biden was only mildly charismatic and he beat the dogshit out of Trump by 7 million votes.

Kamala was a hideous candidate but she stumbled on her nomination (thanks, Dementia Joe). Whoever gets nominated in 2028 will be in a much better position.
 
Of course he would - billions has been spent on his PR.

You have people whose entire personality is crowing on about Palestine idolising Obama - the US President to drop the most bombs ever on the Middle East.
 
First off I don't want Obama to run during his time in office democrats lost 400 state house races. He great at doing the big events but he sucks at connecting with midwestern voters. He enabled President Trump with his relentless attacks on Trump. Harris camp admit it was a bad idea to hire Obama's advisers for 250 million dollars then her husbands law firm is going to give Trump 100 million in free legal support. I don't want him anywhere near Washington.
 
MSN had Hillary a 10:1 favorite in 2016 also.
 
Democrats would go all in for Obama. Republicans would go all in for Trump.

Meanwhile alternatives are unelectable. A vote 3rd or 4th party is a waste of a vote according to them.
Hey if Trump can run for a 3rd,

Let Obama run for a 3rd.

We finally get the Fedor v Randy fight we always wanted..
 
Biden was only mildly charismatic and he beat the dogshit out of Trump by 7 million votes.

Kamala was a hideous candidate but she stumbled on her nomination (thanks, Dementia Joe). Whoever gets nominated in 2028 will be in a much better position.
Especially if Vance runs. He is an awkward, charisma black hole.
 
Democrats would go all in for Obama. Republicans would go all in for Trump.

Meanwhile alternatives are unelectable. A vote 3rd or 4th party is a waste of a vote according to them.
And independents would overwhelmingly flock to Obama. Trump would get crushed.
 


@44nutman

lol...

Biden and Kamala fucked Democrats for the next decade

Yay for you I guess
 
American polls are garbage and can never be trusted. In the EU polls are considred a valid foregone conclusion.

Also no one should be humouring the idea of any president running a third term. If Obama was to win we'd end up back with those people who voted for Trump because Obama kinda looks like the devil from that Bible miniseries.
 
Especially if Vance runs. He is an awkward, charisma black hole.

True, but man is he trying hard.

You saw how he insulted the Chinese and called them peasants? Chinese officials called him out on it recently and called it disrespectful. East Asians don't complain about shit (which is one of the reasons white people love them in the US), so you know it's bad when they feel insulted.

But it's all calculation. He knows that being a crass, vulgar, aggressive asshole plays well with his low IQ base, so he's playing the part.
 
True, but man is he trying hard.

You saw how he insulted the Chinese and called them peasants? Chinese officials called him out on it recently and called it disrespectful. East Asians don't complain about shit (which is one of the reasons white people love them in the US), so you know it's bad when they feel insulted.

But it's all calculation. He knows that being a crass, vulgar, aggressive asshole plays well with his low IQ base, so he's playing the part.
Oh, he is indeed. I first noticed it in that "meeting" with Zelensky. He was coached up to be a prick.
 
Michelle Obama prob would smoke Trump too just based on her last name. Now watch the dems run some can like Newsom in 2028 and fumble a layup election.
 
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