New Paramount deal means loss of PPV points for top-tier fighters?

[Daniel Henry]

The only fighters that were making bank off points was Conor, Rhonda, Anderson Silva and GSP. Not even Jon Jones could break a million buys

 

[El Fernas]

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[Fergelmince]

The only fighters that were making bank off points was Conor, Rhonda, Anderson Silva and GSP. Not even Jon Jones could break a million buys

Don't forget ya boy

 

[Mesos]

I think people are confused here. This is not a revenue-sharing parttnership. The UFC, who pays their fighters, is receiving $1.1B/yr for 7 years to broadcast their content. In exchange, Paramount broadcast the fights. Their goal is to increase subscriptions and sell adverstising to add to Paramount's revenue. So the membership increase and the advertising dollars have no impact on the fighters and how the UFC pays them. They're already giving them $1.1B.

With regard to PPV events, as of my original post yesterday, Everyone form TKO, WME and the UFC were on news outlets claiming ALL numbered events will be on Paramount+ as part of the $7.99 sub with ads and the $12.99/mo sub without ads. And 4 of those numbered events would also be broadcast on CBS. As a matter of fact, I believe they were saying PPVs were "over." I see that DW has gone public since then saying there will still be some PPV's, but anything beyond that, as of yesterday, was merely speculation.

We do not know the full details of the Paramount deal. UFC already sells ads within its ppvs and fight nights at ESPN. Paramount and UFC will likely have some type of ad split deal. UFC would never give up all its in event ads those can be very lucrative, same with sponsorship on cage. UFC counts those as separate revenue streams.

They probably will find a way to share the money.

 

[Fergelmince]

We do not know the full details of the Paramount deal. UFC already sells ads within its ppvs and fight nights at ESPN. Paramount and UFC will likely have some type of ad split deal. UFC would never give up all its in event ads those can be very lucrative, same with sponsorship on cage. UFC counts those as separate revenue streams.

They probably will find a way to share the money.

Again, ya'll are confused. This is not the ESPN deal. All we know is what I posted above. Everything else is just hope for the fighters at this point.

 

[BForrester]

Are they going to get screwed in this deal? No sponsorships on shorts. No PPV points. The UFC keeps finding ways to remove benefits and incentives for the talent.

Sorry, but I have no sympathy for a group of athletes that can look at other sports and see the overwhelming financial benefits of organizing...and still refuse to organize.

 

[BForrester]

It's pretty fucking hilarious how often the guys who complained about PPV cost also are the ones might be banging the drums in other threads to increase pay to what the fighters are worth. PPV points were an avenue for fighters to directly grab their own worth and I assume that's gone.

My thoughts are fighters after 2016 kept using negotiations more than ever after Conor and will continue. It's not like ESPN was selling tons of PPVs anyways unless you're Conor. There's probably going to be a viewership bonus instead of buys, but who knows when we ever get that information until a lawsuit. Who knows? Maybe removing the PPV barrier is what will finally grow the sport and fighters will get paid the more eyes watching fights. Fighters aren't going to get NFL level pay immediately with an announcement and the growth will take years.

PPV points were an avenue for the guys already making a lot of money to make even more money. It's the guys making 10/10 that deserve pay raises. Nobody was clamoring for Conor or Rhonda to make more.

 

[Tweak896]

PPV points were an avenue for the guys already making a lot of money to make even more money. It's the guys making 10/10 that deserve pay raises. Nobody was clamoring for Conor or Rhonda to make more.

I 1000% agree. Still there are some who get butt hurt that UFC stars don't get the extra 25M boxing would offer. Rather see early prelim fighters get 50k/50k