New California law

[nefti]

Are we talking about Saddleback, by chance? We’re still just talking about Irvine specifically. I think you’re taking a very specific situation and applying it broadly. Oakland is a really good counter-example. Very wide ranging income levels in a concentrated area.

That and IVC. Even if we were taking about Oakland, would it allocating resources for the most in need be a more efficient way?

 

[Shoemaker]

That and I can. Even if we were taking about Oakland, would it allocating resources for the most in need be a more efficient way?

I don’t know what you mean by efficient. It would require more screening, therefor would be less efficient. More fair? That’s a matter of perspective. I don’t find uneven playing fields - of any kind - fair. Rich people pay taxes, they should be able to benefit from public services that their taxes fund.

 

[Shoemaker]

Also not in favor of cutting off public roads to the rich, public high school to the rich, police, firefighters etc. if you pay taxes (actually, if you’re a citizen, period) these are services that in my mind should be provided to the entire public, income be damned.


Stick that in your “Shoemaker hates the poor” pipe.

 

[Shoemaker]

I don't have any huge issues. The gender system was not broken, and did not need fixing.. That forced weirdness is annoying, but if they want it, wtevr. Sanctuary city stuff is political football crap that doesn't help, in my honest opinion, but SOME decent immigrants (illegal aliens) will get a chance they may have earned.

I see both sides of the argument. On one hand, illegal immigration is, well, illegal. On the other hand it’s not the states responsibility to dedicate resources to fighting illegal immigration. That’s the feds job.

 

[Toothless King]

I see both sides of the argument. On one hand, illegal immigration is, well, illegal. On the other hand it’s not the states responsibility to dedicate resources to fighting illegal immigration. That’s the feds job.

my agency gets millions of dollars from federal/ICE each year for holding immigrant detainees who committed a crime(s) and waiting to get deported. now all those detainees will be sent to Nevada.

so no, the state does not dedicate any resources to fight illegal immigrants. it's the opposite because cali is losing millions of dollars from federal. now that money goes to NV and maybe AZ

 

[Shoemaker]

my agency gets millions of dollars from federal/ICE each year for holding immigrant detainees who committed a crime(s) and waiting to get deported. now all those detainees will be sent to Nevada.

so no, the state does not dedicate any resources to fight illegal immigrants. it's the opposite because cali is losing millions of dollars from federal. now that money goes to NV and maybe AZ

Interesting. But the money is solely for dealing with immigration, right? Doesn’t sound like California is really missing out on anything except the opportunity to help the feds achieve their goals.

 

[superpunch]

nm

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

I love San Francisco -- its my favorite city in the US -- but no, the food is not great.

San Fran is a diverse city, so it has diverse food options. But the food itself is usually low quality.

You'll find much better tasting and higher quality food in smaller American cities. Your options will be less but the food itself is much better.

Restaurants are the riskiest businesses you can run, have the lowest like 2% profit margins when they are profitable, and that's with paying tipped workers in most states $2 an hour and cheap rent and low taxes.

How do you think a local restaurant in SF is making money paying all its employees like $12/ hour and paying sky high rent and taxes? You're getting shit quality food

I have a few places I’m partners with in New Jersey and you sell food so people buy alcohol.

Food is good profit when you run parties and things of that nature but the bar is where you really make the money.

It also depends what your menu is and the prices you charge. You can make money off of food of course but the alcohol is where he all the real money is made


Also soda and draft beers. Soda is a big profit actually

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Simple bragging rights. Rich kids and their parents want to be able to brag they got accepted to and are going away to Stanford next fall, not down the road to the community college any kid could get into.

It’s dumb, they’ll probably take classes that are focused on their major but change it in a year. I did a year of community college and saved a lot of dough and transferred already with a 3.9 and all my gen ed credits done.

Makes sense if the exclusive institutions of higher learning are based on merit and not sold to the highest bidders. Gotta have some way of whittling things down.

 

[Arkain2K]

FYI HERE ARE THE NEW CALIFORNIA LAWS THAT TAKE EFFECT JANUARY 1st:

- first year of community college will be free for all new students (must be full time)
- recreational marijuana legal to purchase
- vehicle registration will cost $25 to $175 more based on the value of your car
- minimum wage up to $11 per hour
- Sanctuary State law will limit local cooperation/resources with ICE
- guns banned at all public schools even for those with concealed carry permits
- all ammunition purchases (or pickups) must be made in person
- gender identity no longer a requirement on IDs
- baby changing tables will be required in all restrooms, including men's
- pet stores will only be able to sell rescue animals (sp. dogs, cats, rabbits)
- employers will no longer be able to ask for your salary/benefits history, and must provide a pay-scale for the job upon request
- wearing a seat belt on buses will become mandatory for those with seat belts. Buses carrying children aged 8-16 must provide seat belts
- free tampons and pads must be in at least half of all restrooms in public schools that serve low-income areas (defined as 40% poverty or more)

(Compiled by Laura Friedman, CA District 43 Assemblyperson, thank you!)”

For the record, there are actually 900 new California laws that went in effect this month.

The most egregious one is that intentionally spreading AIDS to other people is no longer a Felony in California.

Fucking San Fran bug hunters.

 

[vespasian]

For the record, there are actually 900 new California laws that went in effect this month.

The most egregious one is that intentionally spreading AIDS to other people is no longer a Felony in California.

Fucking San Fran bug hunters.

maybe because HIV infection/AIDS is a curable disease now?

 

[jk7707]

More than you think. They don't need to do it, they just recogized the financial benefits of this. Community College was like less than 3000 a year for me. I had classmates transfer to usc after two years, that means they saved almost 130,000 dollars.

That's why they bribe their kids with expensive cars to stay a year or two. Because the savings even for a person that makes hundreds of thousands are significant.

Lets see some stats. Otherwise your stories mean nothing. Cali is a huge state with a ton of community colleges.

 

[Arkain2K]

maybe because HIV infection/AIDS is a curable disease now?

Erm, there is exactly one person in the entire world who is cured of AIDS.

The rest of mankind aren't fortunate enough to have the CCR5-delta 32 gene like Timothy Ray Brown.

You're welcome to give it AIDS a whirl and report your success story back to us though.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

maybe because HIV infection/AIDS is a curable disease now?

"Treatable" might be more accurate. Regardless, in the scheme of property rights that's at least vandalism. After that is there enough to consider it to some degree aggravated? I'd imagine an attack on personal and societal health would fit that bill.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

maybe because HIV infection/AIDS is a curable disease now?

Lol.

 

[Bloodworth]

San Francisco used to be that, it's really not anymore though. All of the hippies who lived in places like the mission have been forced out (until they have rent control). It's all tech people now (well, and traditional industries like finance), and as a whole the population doesn't seem to care about the ever expanding homeless population.

I'll have to find the source later but the homeless population has skyrocketed on the west coast in the past 2 years. When you have assholes like me who come in and pay $3k for an apartment that was $2k just a few years ago, some people who are otherwise hardworking contributors to society are screwed. SF is no longer the place you go when you want to drop out.

They are stuck in a quagmire, rent goes up and homeless goes up.

This state will attract the rich and poor at the same time.

There are always people who no matter what will never work or contribute a dime back to society.

And as they grow in number the increase in rent will follow because the government will need more money for the homeless.

 

[DespicablePeep]

West coast is beautiful what ruins it is the people that live there.

 

[method115]

I should have said it only helps students who's families are rich enough that they don't have to work.

Not sure how true that is. Full time school doesn't mean you can't work a job it just means shits going to be hard. I went to school full time and worked full time. On top of that since they are having their school paid for while going full time it should free up the amount of money they will need to begin with.

 

[o'dubhlaoich]

$11hr. Finally a livable wage. Wait, is this the 70s? Fucking California doing nothing while trying to seem like they are doing something in order to appease the medicated masses.