New Broadcasting deal.

HHJ said:
Don't backtrack so quickly, have some fuckin balls.

I said if you care about stars so much go watch wwe. If that's indeed all the casuals care about, it's not just a UFC problem, it's an mma problem. It's not like there's a bunch of Conors and Rondas running roughshod in PFL or elsewhere.

You called me a simp for the ufc even though it's a larger problem than that for those who care about that.

But go on with your incoming "....but these go to 11" response.
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It’s “us” fans that’s the problem, no one here really wants to admit it.
 
I wish I had a trash UFC Apex Card to watch -- tonight.

There's camaraderie when I'm watching a lowly event with the Sherdog homies.

And it's amusingly comforting to hear an overly enthusiastic Joe Martinez yelling at the Apex to "Make Some Noise!".

I'll have to wait till next week...
 
HHJ said:
I am without sin.
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I’m being honest, i’ve done fair share of tearing down fighters and what not but the past few years has really shown me most fans are just full of negativity no matter what.

volcom5 said:
It’s hard for any card to mean something nowadays, whenever a great card occurs us MMA fans all we do is shit on the card, the winners, the losers, we do nothing to elevate the fighters popularity or star, in fact we do the complete opposite diminish everything they do and will do which in turn creates another event that won’t mean nothing because we already set the stage of the fighters being nothing.

MMA fans greatest fans in the world.
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i posted this in another thread with similar concept of this one were in.
 
HHJ said:
I like good fighters, not as concerned about how many IG followers they have. It's nothing to do w ufc. Where are the stars elsewhere??
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Stars bring eyeballs whether we like it or not, therefore the UFC is less valuable without them. It indirectly matters in negotiations.
 
volcom5 said:
I’m being honest, i’ve done fair share of tearing down fighters and what not but the past few years has really shown me most fans are just full of negativity no matter what.


i posted this in another thread with similar concept of this one were in.
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Mma fans don't know what they want. Ufc could do everything they ask for and they would shit on it lol
 
froggyluv said:
They shouldnt be charging $80 a PPV in the first place so i could give f all whether they can manufacture more stars or not.
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I haven't bought a PPV since ufc 200 and i only bought it because i had people over to watch it. But yeah, stars or not, I would never pay $80 a PPV.
 
Poirierfan said:
Stars bring eyeballs whether we like it or not, therefore the UFC is less valuable without them.
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Yes but unless you're a casual why should you care that much about that?

Do you tune in to a show due to how good you think the ratings should be, or do you care about good fights?
 
Live sports no matter how poorly ran haven't lost money in a deal for maybe ever. It will be a new deal worth more then any. That's why he doesn't care
 
IDGETKTFO said:
I haven't bought a PPV since ufc 200 and i only bought it because i had people over to watch it. But yeah, stars or not, I would never pay $80 a PPV.
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It's an absurdly high price tag, and it's damaging if the card you paid for has only a good main event that winds up not delivering
 
HHJ said:
Yes but unless you're a casual why should you care that much about that?

Do you tune in to a show due to how good you think the ratings should be, or do you care about good fights?
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I only brought it up because it matters in negotiations i'd assume.
 
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joy2day said:
I SERIOUSLY doubt that. The push for original content is not such that falling numbers result in bigger deals. If what is being stated publicly about the UFC's PPVs declining sales is true, they are not going to get a better deal than the colossal one ESPN made and is unhappy with. No one else is going to guarantee the UFC big money for each PPV regardless of sales at this point.
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The UFC already turned in pitiful numbers for all of their Fox run and then broke the ceiling with their espn deal, so history disagrees with your lack of perspective.
 
If they had signed Prime Fedor and built that stadium in Russia they wouldn't be in such rough shape.
 
The UFC's job is to fill air time for broadcasting or streaming companies, and the ubiquity of their product is a huge selling point as live content is the thing everyone is looking for as it isn't easy to pirate in high quality, and people always want to see results in the moment. It works for them, it's part of the reason why their rights fees will continue to increase and sponsorships will grow.

With the sheer number of events they've got to put on, I understand that they need the requisite amount of fighters on the roster to put on said events, so I'm not bothered when the Fight Nights are basically contender or lower level events headlined by aging veterans, guys on the edge of true contention, or people with some name value.

Yes, I wish the PPVs were cheaper and the cards more stacked. I wish the UFC would try its best to acquire regional talent that has proven it's elite or at least has the chance to be, but that costs more money and the UFC has a ton of rolling debt, share holders and private investors it has to cater to and turn a higher profit than it ever has needed to. When you mix that with the reality that these guys don't move the needle for the casual fan - who is the UFC's true paying customers, not us - I can see why, even if I don't like it. If I look at things from a pragmatic perspective rather than an emotional one, I know they're going to be cheap, and their decision making makes sense.

Still, I'll get to see MMA every weekend in some way shape or form. All I can hope for is the match making is solid and the fights are good. I'm lucky that MMA in general is as easy to access as ever before and that I don't have to wait weeks or even months to see an event similar to the dark ages of MMA when Tito, the Lion's Den and Chuck kept the sport afloat in the US. Not every card will be good, but I'm happy when they are. I won't watch every card as life is busy, but I'll try as I love the sport and appreciate the fighters.

The UFC will get their rights fees increased. They will continue to rake in more money than ever before. Nothing will change that right now, especially not this small little diehard pocket of the internet that is disenfranchised or disinterested. We don't spend money on the product. There isn't enough of us to make any real tangible impact.

With that in mind... it really sucks there isn't some shit Apex card this weekend for me to watch.
 
HHJ said:
If they had signed Prime Fedor and built that stadium in Russia they wouldn't be in such rough shape.
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Fedors management did him a disservice on that one. They just wanted more. I truly believe had Fedor signed, he would be in amazing situation as would the UFC. With the influx of East Euro fighters, fighters from the caucasus, i have no doubt Fedor and the UFC could’ve don’t something big for that region. Noguiera & Gadelha works for the UFC for South America, Fedor would have a similar job except imo would have a bigger influence, for all the shit i give Fedor (mainly because of his delusional fans) can’t deny he’s a amazing righter and a proper idol for fighters in that region.
 
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