New Broadcasting deal.

volcom5 said:
Fedors management did him a disservice on that one. They just wanted more. I truly believe had Fedor signed, he would be in amazing situation as would the UFC. With the influx of East Euro fighters, fighters from the caucasus, i have no doubt Fedor and the UFC could’ve don’t something big for that region. Noguiera & Gadelha works for the UFC for South America, Fedor would have a similar job except imo would have a bigger influence, for all the shit i give Fedor (mainly because of his delusional fans) can’t deny he’s a amazing righter and a proper idol for fighters in that region.
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They tried low-balling Nemkov too. I think they wanna freeze Fedor and his team out of any UFC involvement which really irks me.
 
UFC is gonna be on the same platform as Andrew Tate soon.
 
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Poirierfan said:
Either that or Prime video i'd assume.
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If they don't get the money they want from one streamer or platform, I think they might go the WWE route and split Fight Nights from PPVs. I'm hoping someone pays them enough on their own to have them rid of the PPV model, but I don't see it. The WWE has USA Network (Viacom), Netflix and Peacock (NBC/Universal), and the CW. I think they're clearing over a billion a year from those deals. I think they'll (TKO) look to replicate that approach with the UFC.
 
CerebralKnievel said:
The UFC already turned in pitiful numbers for all of their Fox run and then broke the ceiling with their espn deal, so history disagrees with your lack of perspective.
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I already answered that point in my original post; repeating arguments doesn't change anything. Notice I did it without any personal attacks, that's called being a grown up, so I'll offer THAT as a perspective.
 
Substance Abuse said:
The UFC's job is to fill air time for broadcasting or streaming companies, and the ubiquity of their product is a huge selling point as live content is the thing everyone is looking for as it isn't easy to pirate in high quality, and people always want to see results in the moment. It works for them, it's part of the reason why their rights fees will continue to increase and sponsorships will grow.

With the sheer number of events they've got to put on, I understand that they need the requisite amount of fighters on the roster to put on said events, so I'm not bothered when the Fight Nights are basically contender or lower level events headlined by aging veterans, guys on the edge of true contention, or people with some name value.

Yes, I wish the PPVs were cheaper and the cards more stacked. I wish the UFC would try its best to acquire regional talent that has proven it's elite or at least has the chance to be, but that costs more money and the UFC has a ton of rolling debt, share holders and private investors it has to cater to and turn a higher profit than it ever has needed to. When you mix that with the reality that these guys don't move the needle for the casual fan - who is the UFC's true paying customers, not us - I can see why, even if I don't like it. If I look at things from a pragmatic perspective rather than an emotional one, I know they're going to be cheap, and their decision making makes sense.

Still, I'll get to see MMA every weekend in some way shape or form. All I can hope for is the match making is solid and the fights are good. I'm lucky that MMA in general is as easy to access as ever before and that I don't have to wait weeks or even months to see an event similar to the dark ages of MMA when Tito, the Lion's Den and Chuck kept the sport afloat in the US. Not every card will be good, but I'm happy when they are. I won't watch every card as life is busy, but I'll try as I love the sport and appreciate the fighters.

The UFC will get their rights fees increased. They will continue to rake in more money than ever before. Nothing will change that right now, especially not this small little diehard pocket of the internet that is disenfranchised or disinterested. We don't spend money on the product. There isn't enough of us to make any real tangible impact.

With that in mind... it really sucks there isn't some shit Apex card this weekend for me to watch.
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While that is true as far as I can tell... what is lost in all of that is that the UFC is SUPPOSED to be a

Fight Promotion


Which by definition SHOULD mean that the UFC

... Promotes ..... fights ... and by extension fighters




What the UFC actually does, is monetize their brand name based on the extreme success they built in the mid/late zuffa era from the TUF boom thru the McGregor era.


at present, the UFC really really sucks at promoting fights and super duper sucks at promoting fighters. They have built zero stars in the last DECADE. The current stars built themselves doing their OWN social media self promotion.


In the 2000s the UFC was ahead of the curve in embracing technology, they did a great job of maximizing the reality TV fad.

And in very telling fashion ... they are STILL doing TUF

TUF 33 debuts on cable TV this month.


Yes. There are fights to watch every weekend.

The UFC has become the McDonalds or Walmart of combat sports. Cheaply made, readily available crap, targeted to be the most generic mass appeal to the lowest common denominator, brand first, squeeze every buck out of whoever seems to already have a name, content factory.


they have abandoned everything that made them great amd become everything they said they hated about boxing.
 
jeff7b9 said:
The UFC has become the McDonalds or Walmart of combat sports. Cheaply made, readily available crap, targeted to be the most generic mass appeal to the lowest common denominator, brand first, squeeze every buck out of whoever seems to already have a name, content factory.
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Welcome to America. New here?
 
Substance Abuse said:
Welcome to America. New here?
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Not at all but if you are going praise flaming hot garbage expect to have that perspective countered.


Good for you if you are happy having high frequency crap content.
 
jeff7b9 said:
Not at all but if you are going praise flaming hot garbage expect to have that perspective countered.


Good for you if you are happy having high frequency crap content.
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If the NFL didn't have geography and hometown pride they would be struggling to create stars too. The NFL is all about the shield, just like the UFC. The brand, not the players or fighters. It's always been this way. Boxing is the same. There's almost no stars unless it's someone who appeals to a certain demographic like Canelo or a knockout artist who can promote themselves. The UFC, NFL, NBA and boxing provides the platform, it's on the fighter to sell themselves. There is no longterm story telling. This isn't the WWE.

You're being unrealistic and emotional here. Enjoy your weekend, friend.
 
Substance Abuse said:
If the NFL didn't have geography and hometown pride they would be struggling to create stars too. The NFL is all about the shield, just like the UFC. The brand, not the players or fighters. It's always been this way. Boxing is the same. There's almost no stars unless it's someone who appeals to a certain demographic like Canelo or a knockout artist who can promote themselves. The UFC, NFL, NBA and boxing provides the platform, it's on the fighter to sell themselves. There is no longterm story telling. This isn't the WWE.

You're being unrealistic and emotional here. Enjoy your weekend, friend.
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Enjoy your happy meal.

Life is a dream for the easily entertained.



Edit.... aww shit. All out of Happy Meals until next weekend


But hey. Killer WMMA headlined Apex card to look forward too.
Woohooo!!
 
Saudi Arabian sport's washing money coming soon
 
jeff7b9 said:
Enjoy your happy meal.

Life is a dream for the easily entertained.
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Why are you mad? Everything I've posted in this thread was practical. Sheesh. You need a Snickers.
 
HHJ said:
Yes, the sport needs stars. But that is their problem. My focus is on watching good fighters. If you need storyline and charisma, wwe is on a diff channel ;)

It helps sure, but not needed for my enjoyment if the fighters are skilled.
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Stars are in need for sure. But not just stars than run their mouths and perform antics, but stars with legit skills. I want to see the best of the best go head to head
 
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Substance Abuse said:
Why are you mad? Everything I've posted in this thread was practical. Sheesh. You need a Snickers.
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I'm not mad sir. Just realistic.

UFC has literally become everything they said was wrong with boxing and you are praising them for it.

I find that odd.


I thought our conversation was over with you wishing me a nice weekend and me replying enjoy your happy meal.
No hard feelings.

Are we done here?

Understanding that a business is being run is such a way which leaves the entire customer base displeased is not something I find to be commendable. If you do... that's OK. You can have that opinion. I just disagree.
 
jeff7b9 said:
I'm not mad sir. Just realistic.

UFC has literally become everything they said was wrong with boxing and you are praising them for it.

I find that odd.
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Go back a few pages and read what I typed. I didn't praise anyone or anything. I'm just being rational and you're getting upset. Moving on.
 
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