NBC's Lestor Holt ran a short segment on Jordan Peterson and paint him as an Alt-Right Intellectual

[Steve-French]

Do they not realize that this type of dishonesty just pushes people away from the left? We have the internet these days ffs. Why would they try to get away with something like this? 10 minutes of research on the guy will tell you that he is the furthest thing from being alt-right.

I can see if this was MSNBC, but this is the NBC Nightly news. While they do lean left this is some CNN or Fox News level bias and shouldn't have run on the prime time news.

Here is the video if anybody is interested. It's from NBC's YouTube Channel. As I type this it has 9 likes and 866 dislikes. Proof that this hit piece is not fooling anybody.

 

[Viva]

In a lot of cases, "Alt Right" is nothing more than a wonky pejorative to discredit intellectuals by the lying media.

For guys like Richard Spencer or Jared Taylor, I understand.

But Jordan Peterson? The dudes not even right wing.

 

[vengeful]

Nothing dishonest about it when people on the right can't even agree on what the alternate right actually is.

 

[Viva]

Nothing dishonest about it when people on the right can't even agree on what the alternate right actually is.

Two things define the Alt Right.

Identitarianism and ethnonationalism.

Peterson doesn't subscribe to either of those beliefs. Nor is he even "right wing".

 

[Steve-French]

Nothing dishonest about it when people on the right can't even agree on what the alternate right actually is.

 

[Trotsky]

The furthest thing from the alt-right? Then why is he so appreciated by that community? If he's the furthest from them, where would you place the other 99% of intellectuals and academics that are not liked by them, and who depart from their tastes?

He pretty clearly panders to "alt-right" types (I've given up trying to pin down a cohesive definition of the group itself that satisfies its apologists) with reductive naturalist crap about objectivism and masculinity, and he has carefully avoided subjects on which that community is sensitive (refraining from conceding that Trump is an idiot clown). I've deduced that reduction is the hallmark of the community, and of the right generally now, and his appraisals of existentialism and Marxism are incredibly reductive and boastfully uninformed, so they are ripe for the picking for certain types of people who don't want to think, but want to think that they have thought.

More simply, though, if there is to be an alt-right intellectual, who else would it be? Is the alt-right so odious that association is really that upsetting? These are not rhetorical questions, by the way. I am genuinely curious.

 

[Trotsky]

Also is it just "favorite figure of the Alt-Right" that is troubling? Because that just seems blatantly accurate.

 

[Viva]

The furthest thing from the alt-right? Then why is he so appreciated by that community? If he's the furthest from them, where would you place the other 99% of intellectuals and academics that are not liked by them, and who depart from their tastes?

He pretty clearly panders to "alt-right" types (I've given up trying to pin down a cohesive definition of the group itself that satisfies its apologists) with reductive naturalist crap about objectivism and masculinity, and he has carefully avoided subjects on which that community is sensitive (refraining from conceding that Trump is an idiot clown). I've deduced that reduction is the hallmark of the community, and of the right generally now, and his appraisals of existentialism and Marxism are incredibly reductive and boastfully uninformed, so they are ripe for the picking for certain types of people who don't want to think, but want to think that they have thought.

More simply, though, if there is to be an alt-right intellectual, who else would it be? Is the alt-right so odious that association is really that upsetting? These are not rhetorical questions, by the way. I am genuinely curious.

Yes, he panders to the Alt Right by promoting ideologies that directly conflict with theirs.

That's like saying Sargon of Akkad panders to the Alt Right because he laughs at feminists and leftists.

You are consistently and wildly off base when attempting to analyze the Alt Right, why you continue to do so is beyond me.

 

[Steve-French]

The furthest thing from the alt-right? Then why is he so appreciated by that community? If he's the furthest from them, where would you place the other 99% of intellectuals and academics that are not liked by them, and who depart from their tastes?

He pretty clearly panders to "alt-right" types (I've given up trying to pin down a cohesive definition of the group itself that satisfies its apologists) with reductive naturalist crap about objectivism and masculinity, and he has carefully avoided subjects on which that community is sensitive (refraining from conceding that Trump is an idiot clown). I've deduced that reduction is the hallmark of the community, and of the right generally now, and his appraisals of existentialism and Marxism are incredibly reductive and boastfully uninformed, so they are ripe for the picking for certain types of people who don't want to think, but want to think that they have thought.

More simply, though, if there is to be an alt-right intellectual, who else would it be? Is the alt-right so odious that association is really that upsetting? These are not rhetorical questions, by the way. I am genuinely curious.

Also is it just "favorite figure of the Alt-Right" that is troubling? Because that just seems blatantly accurate.

 

[loyalyolayal]

@Trotsky, no one wants to play with you anymore. You lost subtlety for them to take the bait.

 

[sangreporsangre]

 

[bobgeese]

By segment, you meant propaganda.

 

[The Russian]

@Trotsky, no one wants to play with you anymore. You lost subtlety for them to take the bait.

If everybody would put that troll on ignore the war room's IQ in every thread would rise.

 

[nac386]

The segment doesn't really explain anything about who Jordan Peterson is or what he believes. It just showed very short soundbites of him being defiant and saying things are grim. Lol.

As far as him being a favorite of the alt right, I have no idea because I don't know any of those people, would never associate with them, or care what they like. I do notice that there are crossover fans for any outspoken figure that leans right.

 

[IGotAHugePeckah]

That's another bullshit tactic that they use: they'll try to associate you with an unfavourable group to discredit you, or they'll say "hey, this guy is a FAVOURITE of (insert unfavourable group here)", even if that person has no association whatsoever with said group. It really is intellectually crass.

I'm sure neo-nazis like ice cream and pizza. Maybe these things are also racist.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

This is dishonest for sure. No one on the right is intellectual. Duh.

 

[The Russian]

The 'alt right' is a made up term by media for any white male that isnt a democrat/sjw/self hating bitch/Young republican. We could call american libtard 'lemmings' or 'nihilist' and it would be true.

 

[nac386]

The 'alt right' is a made up term by media for any white male that isnt a democrat/sjw/self hating bitch/Young republican. We could call american libtard 'lemmings' or 'nihilist' and it would be true.

No it's not. Richard Spencer repopularized the term.

 

[S-dot]

I am absolutely nowhere near being alt-right in any way and I’m a huge supporter of Peterson. The fact that some groups take parts of what he says and try to use it to their advantage is nothing unique to Peterson. Hell, nazis/kkk/islamists use all sorts of people from athenian philosophers to Jesus to groups they hate to try and make points that support their ideologies.

 

[HockeyBjj]

Anyone against the progressive movement of tranny kindergarteners and open borders is alt right to them