International [NATO News] Putin: lifting Ukraine missile restrictions would "put NATO at war with Russia"

[Yotsuya]

he literally has Putin's hand up his ass 24/7 and just repeats.

Actually Putin has been way more snarky and Lavrov not so much.

 

[Bald1]

If theres one thing that our lovable neighbour is good at its being unpredictable.they cant ko ukr right now because ukr is strong militarily (ours is a question mark) so we will see what future holds

Yeah, my fuck Putin reflex got the better of me. There's no telling what a man who's all in is willing to do.

But, there's zero doubt where you guys stand as far as NATO alliance is concerned, so hopefully whatever shred of rationality he's got left will deter Russia from making a catastrophic decision.

Time to pack up your village and move? Or fortify? What a life.

 

[SandisLL]

Oh boy maria zaharova from foreign ministry saying they will answer finlands nato joining militarily (this from our news)

How? Buy tackling from bunkers in St Pete oblastj nuclear armed missiles ?
They already had turned St Pete oblastj in nuclear weapons warehouse since 1960 ies and does have since then nuclear weapons stationed there.

Will attempt to attack eurozone countries: will get now...real sanctions not current BS.
Also yeah, Finland for investors isn't Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia.
Germany will not be able to bailout Russia, more likely then should prepare food stamps and new German mark.

 

[Cole train]

Yeah, my fuck Putin reflex got the better of me. There's no telling what a man who's all in is willing to do.

But, there's zero doubt where you guys stand as far as NATO alliance is concerned, so hopefully whatever shred of rationality he's got left will deter Russia from making a catastrophic decision.

Time to pack up your village and move? Or fortify? What a life.

So we should put Agies ashore and 2500 US troops there

Nah we ok nothing will happen most likely since they stuck in ukr, i mean its finland nothing ever happens here right?
"6 months later..."

Btw if they put usa guys here i hope they put them in north in some forgotten by god frozen wilderness just to troll them lol

 

[Bald1]

Nah we ok nothing will happen most likely since they stuck in ukr, i mean its finland nothing ever happens here right?
"6 months later..."

Btw if they put usa guys here i hope they put them in north in some forgotten by god frozen wilderness just to troll them lol

Lol. There's some boys from the north(mid)west states who'd be ok there, but most US guys wouldn't want nothing to do with your weather.

 

[SandisLL]

Nah we ok nothing will happen most likely since they stuck in ukr, i mean its finland nothing ever happens here right?
"6 months later..."

Btw if they put usa guys here i hope they put them in north in some forgotten by god frozen wilderness just to troll them lol

Preferably on southern border and ib north too.
Equipment purchases like tactical missiles, cruise missiles and SAM systems + even more mortars than they does have today.
+ MRLS...


Sadly it is what this is: if they will feel you weak and unprepared then it will definitely happen, sorry......

They already are brainwashing ppl in Russia how ppl in Finland will starve without Russia's natural gas and electricity , almost might die without salt from Belarus and timber from Russia.

 

[GhostZ06]

Nah we ok nothing will happen most likely since they stuck in ukr, i mean its finland nothing ever happens here right?
"6 months later..."

Btw if they put usa guys here i hope they put them in north in some forgotten by god frozen wilderness just to troll them lol

ew

 

[Arkain2K]

If Erdogan continues being an asshole, I hope Finland/Sweden bring the same security pact that they signed with the U.K and give a copy to everyone else who supports their memberships to sign.
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NATO: Turkey blocks early talks on Finland and Sweden joining



Turkey has blocked discussions on Finland and Sweden's accession NATO hours after the countries officially launched their bids to join the alliance, a diplomatic source told DW on condition of anonymity.

Turkey on Wednesday stopped NATO members from starting talks on the bids launched by Finland and Sweden to join the alliance, a diplomatic source told DW correspondent Teri Schultz, currently on assignment in Stockholm.

Helsinki and Sweden handed their official bid to NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg on Wednesday morning.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan had already indicated likely resistance from his government. Such decisions require unanimous approval from NATO member states.

Why is Turkey against Finland and Sweden's NATO membership?

Ankara had raised objections to the ascension of the two Nordic states days ahead of their bids.

It claims that the two are harboring Kurdish groups such as the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) and the Syrian People's Defense Units (YPG) which Turkey has branded as "terrorists." The EU and US also classify the PKK as a terrorist organization.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan repeated his complaints on Wednesday in Ankara, saying that "we cannot say yes" to Finland and Sweden joining NATO until they return "terrorists" to Turkey.

For a country to join the alliance, all 30 members must give their consent.

Nevertheless, other members of the alliance have given their full backing to the Nordic countries and remain optimistic that they can overcome Turkey's objections. They hope to complete the process in six months rather than the usual 12 months.

https://www.dw.com/en/nato-turkey-blocks-early-talks-on-finland-and-sweden-joining/a-61839527

 

[Arkain2K]

Erdogan preaching to his choir back in Ankara about "terrorists":

 

[hitcher]

Lol @ Erdogan and Putin.

Wouldnt be surprised if these 2 had some kind of a deal that Erdogan blocks them from joining NATO.

I gotta say its funny how fast you could let countries join, something that wasn't provided for Russia when Putin asked for it.

 

[Bald1]

Lol @ Erdogan and Putin.

Wouldnt be surprised if these 2 had some kind of a deal that Erdogan blocks them from joining NATO.

I gotta say its funny how fast you could let countries join, something that wasn't provided for Russia when Putin asked for it.

From my recollection there was zero reason for special treatment in Russia's case. Not like they had an aggressive neighbor making demands of them or anything.

 

[Limbo Pete]

If Erdogan continues being an asshole, I hope Finland/Sweden bring the same security pact that they signed with the U.K and give a copy to everyone else who supports their memberships to sign.
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NATO: Turkey blocks early talks on Finland and Sweden joining



Turkey has blocked discussions on Finland and Sweden's accession NATO hours after the countries officially launched their bids to join the alliance, a diplomatic source told DW on condition of anonymity.

Turkey on Wednesday stopped NATO members from starting talks on the bids launched by Finland and Sweden to join the alliance, a diplomatic source told DW correspondent Teri Schultz, currently on assignment in Stockholm.

Helsinki and Sweden handed their official bid to NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg on Wednesday morning.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan had already indicated likely resistance from his government. Such decisions require unanimous approval from NATO member states.

Why is Turkey against Finland and Sweden's NATO membership?

Ankara had raised objections to the ascension of the two Nordic states days ahead of their bids.

It claims that the two are harboring Kurdish groups such as the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) and the Syrian People's Defense Units (YPG) which Turkey has branded as "terrorists." The EU and US also classify the PKK as a terrorist organization.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan repeated his complaints on Wednesday in Ankara, saying that "we cannot say yes" to Finland and Sweden joining NATO until they return "terrorists" to Turkey.

For a country to join the alliance, all 30 members must give their consent.

Nevertheless, other members of the alliance have given their full backing to the Nordic countries and remain optimistic that they can overcome Turkey's objections. They hope to complete the process in six months rather than the usual 12 months.

https://www.dw.com/en/nato-turkey-blocks-early-talks-on-finland-and-sweden-joining/a-61839527

Turkey at this very moment:

 

[hitcher]

From my recollection there was zero reason for special treatment in Russia's case. Not like they had an aggressive neighbor making demands of them or anything.

1. There never are reasons for special treatment unless you create them/just do it. See the Bucharest 2008 meeting and declaring Georgia and Ukraine "We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO." Something that has never happened before. Why was there special treatment in their case?

2. When did that happen with Russia and Finland/Sweden?

 

[Tabarnakos]

Lol @ Erdogan and Putin.

Wouldnt be surprised if these 2 had some kind of a deal that Erdogan blocks them from joining NATO.

I gotta say its funny how fast you could let countries join, something that wasn't provided for Russia when Putin asked for it.

Doubtful since Turkey has sent and still is sending a ton of weapons to Ukraine. If anything i think he has an axe to grind against Finland/Sweden and/or the U.S for the alleged and attempted 2016 coup d'etat

Erdogan may be an ally of the west but he's also an assholeish pseudo dictator.Personally i'm not a big fan of the guy

 

[Bald1]

1. There never are reasons for special treatment unless you create them/just do it. See the Bucharest 2008 meeting and declaring Georgia and Ukraine "We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO." Something that has never happened before. Why was there special treatment in their case?

2. When did that happen with Russia and Finland/Sweden?

What's with ignoring history and Russia's track record of aggression? Some of you seem hell bent on thinking viewing Russia with caution isn't due to Russia's actions. Odd.


Really? Russia has been using threatening language directed towards any entity not willing to cave to their demands and manufacturing make believe excuses. The threats against anyone supporting Ukr didn't exclude Finland and Sweden, right? Let's start there.

 

[Cole train]

Lmao now croatian pres wants to block us and is arguing with pm who supports membership

 

[Yotsuya]

No rush for Finland to join. Russia won't pose true threat for Finnish army for decades. I think the next window for Russian army to try some kamikaze attack like the current special operation won't be open until 2024 earliest and even then it'll be a diminished effort with most of their modern cruiser missiles gone, standing army crippled and conscript arriving beaten black and blue for signatures. Apart from those threats it'll all be smoke and mirrors and general nuisance.

 

[ICHEERTHEBULL]

 

[12ga.]

Lmao now croatian pres wants to block us and is arguing with pm who supports membership

Croatian parliament not a smart as Turkey's. They could get zillions if they played ball with their President since EU needs this badly to have some victory against Russia.

 

[12ga.]

Erdogan preaching to his choir back in Ankara about "terrorists":

Not sure why "terrorists" in quotes PKK is a designated terrorist org by EU, USA, Canada, UK etc and Finland/Sweden harbor them refusing to hand them over to Turkey. I told y'all this is more than about money. Cuts deep like Afghanistan refusal to hand over Bin Laden. They are lucky they wernt invaded by Turkey.