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I haven't come around to extracting, converting and then posting my hand histories quite yet. However, I want to share a hand I played during the session of 5/9/13 @ 1318 PST for discussion and analysis sake.

I had like $36.00, and he had around $30.00.
I held AcKc in the small blind (sb). A player in the cutoff (co) raises 3x the bb to $0.75. The button folds and I make it $2.25. The CO makes it something like 6.25, so I made it like twice that iirc. He shoves and I call immediately, he has the AA.

The flop is Jc Tc 7h, I flop what I believe to be the best flop I can hope for in this match up.

I'm not going to get into the result right now, but I wanted to see if someone can break down the way the hand went for me. I'd like opinions on sizing and if it was bad or good and why. I have Pokerstove and I've plugged in the numbers, but I just wanted to get a discussion going.
 
I haven't come around to extracting, converting and then posting my hand histories quite yet. However, I want to share a hand I played during the session of 5/9/13 @ 1318 PST for discussion and analysis sake.

I had like $36.00, and he had around $30.00.
I held AcKc in the small blind (sb). A player in the cutoff (co) raises 3x the bb to $0.75. The button folds and I make it $2.25. The CO makes it something like 6.25, so I made it like twice that iirc. He shoves and I call immediately, he has the AA.

The flop is Jc Tc 7h, I flop what I believe to be the best flop I can hope for in this match up.

I'm not going to get into the result right now, but I wanted to see if someone can break down the way the hand went for me. I'd like opinions on sizing and if it was bad or good and why. I have Pokerstove and I've plugged in the numbers, but I just wanted to get a discussion going.

Call 6.25, shove flop

His 4 bet there is strong without more info on that player. What is he 4 betting you with in that spot? JJ?
 
Call 6.25, shove flop

His 4 bet there is strong without more info on that player. What is he 4 betting you with in that spot? JJ?

I have AK, so that makes the likelihood of him having AA or KK significantly lower. Now if I flat and he has JJ/QQ (What I put him on) and an A or K flop, then I can't extract anymore value.

So I figured that since I have a strong suited hand in AK, that the best move at the time was to get it all in preflop. AK is really only a big dog to AA iirc. However, if he has AA and it doesn't workout then I chalk it up to variance.
 
I have AK, so that makes the likelihood of him having AA or KK significantly lower. Now if I flat and he has JJ/QQ (What I put him on) and an A or K flop, then I can't extract anymore value.

So I figured that since I have a strong suited hand in AK, that the best move at the time was to get it all in preflop. AK is really only a big dog to AA iirc. However, if he has AA and it doesn't workout then I chalk it up to variance.


Earlier in the thread there was talk about AK and when AK has a little play to it. I think this hand is an example of that, you can make a decision post flop. It's an expensive fallacy to assume that because you are holding one of the A or K that it makes it less likely an opponent is holding a pair of them, when their play matches a premium hand. I don't put a guy on JJ in that situation unless I know him. I put him on QQ+. Are you underrating the strength of his 4 bet? I think that's the key to this hand.

But to a single overcard flop, if he has JJ/QQ, he will take a shot at that pot more often than you give him credit for, and that's good value that you don't even have to extract. He doesn't put you on as narrow a range as you can put him on, and will take some shots at that juicy pot because he's got you on something like 99/AQ+.
 
I don't hate the US. I just enjoy taking the piss out of you guys.

Well, you're good at it. I dislike the US, as well. But the frequency of the piss taking makes it seem like something more, for you. Like genuine resentment for Americans in general.

I may be wrong but do you see how one would come to that conclusion, considering the nature of your jibes and how often they occur?

I mean come on man, lay down some of that uncomfortable honesty here. The kind that you hate to admit. What is it really that bothers you.
 
All the US hating aside, I've officially tripled my initial deposit. Now is 1500 enough for shots at 50NL or should I keep going until I have 3k+ ?
 
Damn blinds. Somehow it always feels like you get more play with your stack live than online, even if that's completely not true.


I'm still following your tale. Good stuff. Years back I had a grand to my name, and another grand on a poker site from dicking around. I had just quit my job due to being a complete fuckup and putting myself inside the regional manager's girlfriend, and not wanting to deal with the fallout along with the shitty job itself. So I just said, fuck off I'm a poker pro now. lol.

It worked out for me and eventually the fed crackdowns and other factors with my family moved me away from the game, but it was great while it lasted. Continued good luck dude.


Did you intend the opposite there?

As somehow who played for almost a decade live before the internet poker era, I can say the amount of 'play' online is way higher. The game is almost certainly juiced to feed the Just Bleed (:D) poker players who crave non stop action and are always seeking a faster more action packed game.

I am not saying it is juiced to benefit anyone in particular (although lots of cheating has been exposed). I am saying the card randomizer is weighted towards dealing more of the top 5 cards (10-A) to generate bigger pots and bigger racks for the house.

I can sit for hours or days in live poker and not get that truly horrifying bad beat. Those type of 'set up' situations just do not come around that often in live poker. In online poker they happen every session.

Some say 'well you play so many more hands per hour online so of course they happen more', but I am talking about as a percent of hands played, they happen way more online.
 
All the US hating aside, I've officially tripled my initial deposit. Now is 1500 enough for shots at 50NL or should I keep going until I have 3k+ ?

I know that this is going to sound like a puss-move but hear me out.

When I wager, either Vcash or real cash I never go with more than 10% of my stake. I know that it may take a while for me to get my cash up in the stratosphere, but I'm a grinder. Thus, I embrace the grind.
 
Did you intend the opposite there?

As somehow who played for almost a decade live before the internet poker era, I can say the amount of 'play' online is way higher. The game is almost certainly juiced to feed the Just Bleed (:D) poker players who crave non stop action and are always seeking a faster more action packed game.

I am not saying it is juiced to benefit anyone in particular (although lots of cheating has been exposed). I am saying the card randomizer is weighted towards dealing more of the top 5 cards (10-A) to generate bigger pots and bigger racks for the house.

I can sit for hours or days in live poker and not get that truly horrifying bad beat. Those type of 'set up' situations just do not come around that often in live poker. In online poker they happen every session.

Some say 'well you play so many more hands per hour online so of course they happen more', but I am talking about as a percent of hands played, they happen way more online.


I meant it the way I said it- for some reason a live table feels like I'm doing more before the blinds go up, though it's clearly not true. Maybe because there's more to pay attention to, feel more engaged.

I've never seen evidence of juiced cards online. Millions of hands have been analyzed by smart people and they haven't found that to be the case, far as I know.
 
Can anyone suggest more update space? My initial post has hit the max characters of 10,000.
 
Hi all,

I recall that there were a couple of threads here and there that were about Poker. I also replied to a thread this morning regarding your short term goals. My post was to run my poker account deposit from $500.00 (USD) to $2,000.00 (USD) or more.

So I deposited $500.00 on April 13, 2013. I play four tables of 25NL (.25/.10) and any feedback is welcome.

My Progress report below:

Update as of 5/12/13 @ 0835 PST. My bankroll is now at 1524.92.
Happy Mother's Day to all! Tomorrow is the 1 month mark that I started this bankroll building project and today I have officially tripled the starting deposit. I am a little under $500.00 off the goal of 2K. The question now is, would 2k be enough of a bankroll to take shots at 50NL? Or should I keep at 25NL grind to hit 2,000-2,500? I'd like to hear your responses and why.

Update as of 5/11/13 @ 1143 PST. My bankroll is now at 1447.30.
It's been nearly a month since I started this and I've almost tripled the starting amount!

Update as of 5/11/13 @ 0842 PST. My bankroll is now at 1381.74.
Had another solid session, picked off two huge bluffs, it's just one of those days where you feel great and everything is working out. I made the right lay downs, the right calls and the right plays. All my big hands got paid off and/or held up.

Update as of 5/10/13 @ 1006 PST. My bankroll is now at 1273.22.
Started a session after work, my bonus is maxed and cleared for the week and I played well. I am thinking of some live poker this weekend as well. Just havin' a Whole Foods Cola
and I'm gonna buy an ETF today.


Update as of 5/9/13 @ 1318 PST. My bankroll is now at 1169.16.
Got off work, decided to put in some hands, and I did pretty well. I just ordered a pizza from this organic pizza place near here and the weekend is near. No school also until Monday as well. Payday is also tonight! Too much good incoming.

Update as of 5/8/13 @ 2250 PST. My bankroll is now at 1047.34.
I meant to update sooner but I had to get some sleep before work.

Update as of 5/8/13 @ 0202 PST. My bankroll is now at 1007.07.
I ran JJ into QQ, I ran JJ into KK, and then I ran QQ into KK. Cooler-pa-looza day is discouraging but I've made peace with it. I want to share a quote:

"A serious investor is not likely to believe that the day-to-day or even month-to-month fluctuations of the stock market make him richer or poorer." - Benjamin Graham "The Intelligent Investor."

I started a Scottrade account last month as well and looking at this quote helps a ton. I don't beat myself over these situations. I also feel that I have identified when I will tilt and spaz my money, so I will make a policy of quitting if/when I lose 4 buy-ins. Tomorrow is another day, stay tuned folks!


Update as of 5/6/13 @ 2042 PST. My bankroll is now at 1103.51.
New week, new potential to earn and clear the bonus. I'd put in more hands, but I'm taking 16 units this quarter and still working FT. Lots of big hands and big pots, flopped top set holding 99 on a 9 8 7 board with two diamonds in a 3 bet pot. 3 bettor leads huge I shove, he has QQ. Turn is the King and then river is the...queen.
Chipped up slowly after that, flopped another top set with 88 on 6 8 4 board rainbow. Flat caller in the blinds leads into me, I raise small because I assume he had top pair or maybe a set. We eventually get it all in on the flop and he has JJ!? Turn is a king, and river is a...not this time...blank. That put me up big, smooth sailin' from there.


Update as of 5/4/13 @ 2345 PST. My bankroll is now at 1042.99.

Update as of 5/3/13 @ 2008 PST. My bankroll is now at 1035.44.
Would've been up more but someone called my all in when he had Q6 on a Q high board, I had AA and he rivered his 6. In any case, the weekend is here and I'm feelin gooood.

Update as of 5/3/13 @ 0035 PST. My bankroll is now at 993.35.
I was playing today and I lose about 2 hours of grind time because my video card craps out. I go with my bro who is my personal IT tech and he tested it, finds out it's a dead video card. We go to Fry's and buy a new one for like 160 with a rebate. I start playing again and get hit with a monster headache. I lay down around 2130 and I get up at 2320 as I work graveyard and have to be there by midnight. Tomorrow is another day.

Update as of 5/2/13 @ 0018 PST. My bankroll is now at 1045.15.
I was up another buy-in, but right before I ended the session I had AKcc vs 33 blind vs blind, I lead out on a flop of 2c3c4h after 3 betting pre and he raises, I 3 bet the flop and he instantly shoves. I have to call now, he shows the set and the turn is a 4. It was a short session but I will continue this journey of the grind tomorrow.

Update as of 4/30/13 @ 2025 PST. My bankroll is up to 1039.02.
I felt pretty good today, got off work in the morning (I work graveyard), went to Whole Foods, took a nap, went to school, did homework, and came home to play. I will try to sleep now before work. Puttin some player points together also to clear my bonus this week.

Update as of 4/30/13 @ 0038 PST. My bankroll is down to 973.16.
This happened an hour or two ago, I just commenced hygiene ops (Shit shower shave, brush teeth) after and figured I'd update when I got to work. So this is downswing week, not a great start. However, a new week means I can earn two buy-ins. The promotion is great, helps pad bankroll and at the stakes I'm playing it offers more than what rake back probably can provide. Tomorrow is another day, I still haven't gotten the urge to smash anything or take my entire bankroll to 5/10.

Update as of 4/28/13 @ 1722 PST. My bank is down to 1134.59.
Variance not on my side today, three buy-in's down from top pair on draw heavy board and they flopped sets each time. Funny thing is, I made top two on river and both flush and draws missed. Other times were just smaller losses. However, my tilt is 0, I just accept it and will continue to grind. Whenever I sense that unlucky situations will make me play poorly, I will stop. In my experiences, chasing losses just eat at the bankroll faster.

Update as of 4/27/13 @ 1942 PST. My banksroll is now at 1280.67.

Update as of 4/27/13 @ 1057 PST. My bankroll is now at 1224.60.

Update as of 4/26/13 @ 0907 PST. My bankroll is now at 1172.93.
I didn't even play today yet, the bonus must have cleared. I believe the site is down for maintenance as well.

Update as of 4/25/13 @ 2314 PST. My bankroll is now at 1,147.93.

Update as of 4/25/13 @ 1938 PST. My bankroll is now at $1,111.51.
I feel like I am playing good and variance is on my side. Ended the session with AA 3 way Pre flop all in. Feels good man, I wanna get some food now. I topped off the max amount of player points for cash this week for this promotion they have, so I am expecting another $25.00 to clear!

Update as of 4/24/13 @1013 PST. My bankroll is now at $1015.10.
I'm gonna put in some more volume for the rest of this remaining week, especially since they have the points give away promo.

Update as of 4/23/13 @ 2302 PST. My bankroll is now down to $893.39.
Tried to put in some hands lost another 2 buy-ins. Oh woe is me. Gotta head to work soon and I have class after, tomorrow is another day.

Update as of 4/23/13 @ 1923 PST. My bankroll is now down to $948.56.
I had a plethora of beats like AA vs straight and flush draw hand that made it on river, KK vs AA all-in pre, and people just catching cards. It's really just standard, but I'm still happy with my plays and the way I've ran in the past 10 days I'm good. Time to go to the gym and run!

Update as of 4/22/13 @ 2123 PST. My bankroll is now at $1079.51.
I was down 2.5 buy-ins and then at the end of my session, I had queens full over 8s full, and at another table I held 22 in a 3 bet flop with a board of 2 4 4 with 2 diamonds. Big stack makes his flush and 3 bettor had an overpair, I got paid in full.

Update as of 4/22/13 @ 0021 PST. My bankroll is now at $1063.34.

Update as of 4/17/13. My bankroll is now at $786.66.

Some things to note:

-Bankroll management is paramount, and most people have no idea what it even is.
-When people at the micro stakes just bet a huge amount out of position, they usually aren't bluffing.
-People will call you down with top pair in a raised pot.
-For cash games, people usually recommend 40. If you play MTT/SNGs, you need around 50+.
-Big raises pre like 6x is a HUGE hand.

Quoted to save initial contents of first post.
 
I used to play a lot.. I actually qualified for the UK open at the Grosevnor hotel but got busted on the first day by some old bird chasing an open ender.. great experience though.

I used to play exclusively at .50/1 NLH heads up or sometimes 6 max.. I built my BR to over 5 and then lost it all in one night to Matusow at 10/20 PLO even though I had never played it before. It made me realise that I don't have the patience or soberness to grind a living out of it.

I did steal one of Durrrs blinds at 100/200 once which is pretty sad but awesome haha
 
I used to play a lot.. I actually qualified for the UK open at the Grosevnor hotel but got busted on the first day by some old bird chasing an open ender.. great experience though.

I used to play exclusively at .50/1 NLH heads up or sometimes 6 max.. I built my BR to over 5 and then lost it all in one night to Matusow at 10/20 PLO even though I had never played it before. It made me realise that I don't have the patience or soberness to grind a living out of it.

I did steal one of Durrrs blinds at 100/200 once which is pretty sad but awesome haha

So you have not played at all since?
 
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